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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 14:49:29
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Emperor Putin and his ventriloquist act, Medvedev have announced a ban on imports of food from the EU and US in retaliation for sanctions ;D
Could be interesting when winter starts...
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Emperor Putin and his ventriloquist act, Medvedev have announced a ban on imports of food from the EU and US in retaliation for sanctions ;D
Could be interesting when winter starts...
Mad as a March hare and with delusions of grandeur to boot.
World war 3 awaits us all. :-\
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Upto now, the wests sanctions have only affected the rich in Russia.
This will pish off the Russian people as a whole :(
Just hope the average Russian realises that it is Putin who did this, not the rest of the world.
He is also considering banning all flights over Russia by western airlines ::)
Maybe we could ban all Russian airlines from operating across Europe if he pulls that stunt but somehow I don't think Dave and his bum chums have the balls to do it ::)
Must tune into putin tv RT to see how he manages to spin this stunt around to his people ::)
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Putin seems to be losing touch with reality. >:(
This could be dangerous.
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Putin seems to be losing touch with reality. >:(
This could be dangerous.
Losing? He's a cherry short of a cherry bakewell...
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Putin seems to be losing touch with reality. >:(
This could be dangerous.
Losing? He's a cherry short of a cherry bakewell...
A pork pie short of a picnic. :)
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Apparently Russia is setting up a air exercise involving 100 aircraft :o
I don't think we have 100 serviceable aircraft of any type left flying in the RAF ::) >:(
Cheers Dave you traitorous bastard >:( >:( >:(
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Putin's all right. He just needs a nice cup of tea..
Same variety his henchmen fed to Alexander Litvinenko, preferably. ::)
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Practical as ever Kevin ;D
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I wonder what will happen to the EU price of fruit and veg? Stay same? Up/down. Will there be a glut?
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I wonder what will happen to the EU price of fruit and veg? Stay same? Up/down. Will there be a glut?
Knowing the EU, the price will stay the same and any surplus will end up rotting in a warehouse somewhere >:(
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I wonder what will happen to the EU price of fruit and veg? Stay same? Up/down. Will there be a glut?
Knowing the EU, the price will stay the same and any surplus will end up rotting in a warehouse somewhere >:(
Ah yes......memories of the butter mountain. ;D
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good news for our exporters ;D and bad news for me as the prices will go up :-\
and good news for asia, latin america and african exporters also..
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Russia's agricultural sector is only a 4 pot with over 25% of land cultivated in Soviet times, no longer so, where roads and infrastructure have been ignored outside of Putin's main supports area of Western Russia (hence a rise in nationalism stoked, by Russian adventurism in Ukraine (Don't ask about the Siberian nationalist rally on 17th August, some of the Russian press had to hastily remove articles on this and have been officially sanctioned ;D ;D ;D)) and are no longer reachable. A shortage of finance means that cultivation is only running on 2 cylinders through lack of investment, hence the need to import 20-60% of different foods with an average of 48%, so no pressure then from banning western food producers. ;D ;D ;D Could their struggling agricultural sector pull the skin of a rice pudding, like a struggling Omega 4 pot, no there is no rice pudding. ;D ;D ;D
Soviet nostalgia is generally limited to the oldest Russian and Russian satellite country's generation, especially women. I'm sure they will thrilled at the queuing for food for what little supplies are available. Soviets seem to think that queuing is an efficient use of a countries productive time. ;D ;D ;D
2014:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuXbc4AIMAA17Yh.png:orig)
Pre 1991:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuSOz4DIgAA6cgo.jpg)
Yes, there will be some substitution, but food can not suddenly be magicked from somewhere it takes time to grow, so in countries which make up the shortfall, their prices will go up, they will also go up in Russia, which already has major inflation problems with falling real wages, so this will disproportionately affect the poor. There is talk of price caps on essential foods, which will guarantee their disappearance, as producers won't produce at a loss nor will shops sell. ;D ;D ;D
As one Russian wag said: The bad new is that with no food in the shops, so we will have to eat sh*t, the good news is that we have plenty of sh*t. ;D ;D ;D
A Ukrainian wag: We will be back to Russian tourists doing food runs to Ukraine or Russian locusts as they will be called. ;D ;D ;D (They will join the Colorado's in East Ukraine which is what the Ukrainians call the Russian Terrorists there with their St George's ribbons after the stripped shells of Colorado beetles.
I don't think Putin has many toes left from where he keeps shooting himself in the foot. His actions over the last 9 months have been highly irrational at a tactical and strategic level and what is meant to be a strategy to keep Putin in power is increasing his chances of demise, which IMO can't happen soon enough, providing it is a peaceful transition where in my view Putin will push the nuclear button if he thinks it will keep him in power longer (Many Russians view with their extensive shelters a nuclear exchange winnable). >:( >:( >:(
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Russia's agricultural sector is only a 4 pot with over 25% of land cultivated in Soviet times, no longer so, where roads and infrastructure have been ignored outside of Putin's main supports area of Western Russia (hence a rise in nationalism stoked, by Russian adventurism in Ukraine (Don't ask about the Siberian nationalist rally on 17th August, some of the Russian press had to hastily remove articles on this and have been officially sanctioned ;D ;D ;D)) and are no longer reachable. A shortage of finance means that cultivation is only running on 2 cylinders through lack of investment, hence the need to import 20-60% of different foods with an average of 48%, so no pressure then from banning western food producers. ;D ;D ;D Could their struggling agricultural sector pull the skin of a rice pudding, like a struggling Omega 4 pot, no there is no rice pudding. ;D ;D ;D
Soviet nostalgia is generally limited to the oldest Russian and Russian satellite country's generation, especially women. I'm sure they will thrilled at the queuing for food for what little supplies are available. Soviets seem to think that queuing is an efficient use of a countries productive time. ;D ;D ;D
2014:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuXbc4AIMAA17Yh.png:orig)
Pre 1991:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuSOz4DIgAA6cgo.jpg)
Yes, there will be some substitution, but food can not suddenly be magicked from somewhere it takes time to grow, so in countries which make up the shortfall, their prices will go up, they will also go up in Russia, which already has major inflation problems with falling real wages, so this will disproportionately affect the poor. There is talk of price caps on essential foods, which will guarantee their disappearance, as producers won't produce at a loss nor will shops sell. ;D ;D ;D
As one Russian wag said: The bad new is that with no food in the shops, so we will have to eat sh*t, the good news is that we have plenty of sh*t. ;D ;D ;D
A Ukrainian wag: We will be back to Russian tourists doing food runs to Ukraine or Russian locusts as they will be called. ;D ;D ;D (They will join the Colorado's in East Ukraine which is what the Ukrainians call the Russian Terrorists there with their St George's ribbons after the stripped shells of Colorado beetles.
I don't think Putin has many toes left from where he keeps shooting himself in the foot. His actions over the last 9 months have been highly irrational at a tactical and strategic level and what is meant to be a strategy to keep Putin in power is increasing his chances of demise, which IMO can't happen soon enough, providing it is a peaceful transition where in my view Putin will push the nuclear button if he thinks it will keep him in power longer (Many Russians view with their extensive shelters a nuclear exchange winnable). >:( >:( >:(
Its well known by those in know about these things that in places like China, the USA, Russia and even France, the centres of population are that spread out some could indeed survive (if that's the word :'() a limited exchange of instant buckets of sunshine.
Us and central Europe on the other hand would simply cease to exist :'( :'( :'(
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US is big enough to survive, but you are correct that Western Europe is not. This is also why Israel will never let Iran become a nuclear power as it would only take about 5 nuclear bombs of a decent size to eliminate Israel, whereas Iran is a much bigger country with a dispersed population, which Israel's reportedly 80 nukes would not destroy.
Any major nuclear exchange the choice will probably be between a quick death and a slow one from radiation and starvation, due to high radiation levels and the following nuclear winter and probable ice age. :( :( :( :(
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Russia's agricultural sector is only a 4 pot with over 25% of land cultivated in Soviet times, no longer so, where roads and infrastructure have been ignored outside of Putin's main supports area of Western Russia (hence a rise in nationalism stoked, by Russian adventurism in Ukraine (Don't ask about the Siberian nationalist rally on 17th August, some of the Russian press had to hastily remove articles on this and have been officially sanctioned ;D ;D ;D )) and are no longer reachable. A shortage of finance means that cultivation is only running on 2 cylinders through lack of investment, hence the need to import 20-60% of different foods with an average of 48%, so no pressure then from banning western food producers. ;D ;D ;D Could their struggling agricultural sector pull the skin of a rice pudding, like a struggling Omega 4 pot, no there is no rice pudding. ;D ;D ;D
Soviet nostalgia is generally limited to the oldest Russian and Russian satellite country's generation, especially women. I'm sure they will thrilled at the queuing for food for what little supplies are available. Soviets seem to think that queuing is an efficient use of a countries productive time. ;D ;D ;D
2014:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuXbc4AIMAA17Yh.png:orig)
Pre 1991:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuSOz4DIgAA6cgo.jpg)
Yes, there will be some substitution, but food can not suddenly be magicked from somewhere it takes time to grow, so in countries which make up the shortfall, their prices will go up, they will also go up in Russia, which already has major inflation problems with falling real wages, so this will disproportionately affect the poor. There is talk of price caps on essential foods, which will guarantee their disappearance, as producers won't produce at a loss nor will shops sell. ;D ;D ;D
As one Russian wag said: The bad new is that with no food in the shops, so we will have to eat sh*t, the good news is that we have plenty of sh*t. ;D ;D ;D
A Ukrainian wag: We will be back to Russian tourists doing food runs to Ukraine or Russian locusts as they will be called. ;D ;D ;D (They will join the Colorado's in East Ukraine which is what the Ukrainians call the Russian Terrorists there with their St George's ribbons after the stripped shells of Colorado beetles.
I don't think Putin has many toes left from where he keeps shooting himself in the foot. His actions over the last 9 months have been highly irrational at a tactical and strategic level and what is meant to be a strategy to keep Putin in power is increasing his chances of demise, which IMO can't happen soon enough, providing it is a peaceful transition where in my view Putin will push the nuclear button if he thinks it will keep him in power longer (Many Russians view with their extensive shelters a nuclear exchange winnable). >:( >:( >:(
::) Rods, we have seen many stories from west.. according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D
Putin is a longer story imo
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Who will be mainly affected by Russia's food sanctions:
http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/infographics/26519095.html (http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/infographics/26519095.html)
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::) Rods, we have seen many stories from west.. according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D
Putin is a longer story imo
Time will tell, personally I think Russia will go through another revolution, through weakness and more regions like Siberia, Volga Tartars, Chechnya will become independent states and Crimea will revert back to Ukraine. Putin is doing what he is doing, not from political strength but from political weakness.
The reality is that Russia on its $2tn economic strength is a minor regional power, with uncompetitive industrialised and agricultural sectors and are only staying afloat economically on their gas and oil exports. The EU and US by comparison both have GDP's of about $17tn each. If it wasn't for its nuclear arsenal and vast amount of Soviet era weapons, it would be safely ignored by the rest of the world.
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::) Rods, we have seen many stories from west.. according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D
Putin is a longer story imo
Time will tell, personally I think Russia will go through another revolution, through weakness and more regions like Siberia, Volga Tartars, Chechnya will become independent states and Crimea will revert back to Ukraine. Putin is doing what he is doing, not from political strength but from political weakness.
The reality is that Russia on its $2tn economic strength is a minor regional power, with uncompetitive industrialised and agricultural sectors and are only staying afloat economically on their gas and oil exports. The EU and US by comparison both have GDP's of about $17tn each. If it wasn't for its nuclear arsenal and vast amount of Soviet era weapons, it would be safely ignored by the rest of the world.
west couldnt remove even Fidel govt with all sorts of economic measures.. talking about more is blx imo..
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Suicidal IMO.
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Suicidal IMO.
;D
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Chris , its funny to see when you put a last second finger on the subject ;D :y
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The Belarussians must be rubbing their hands as they have a great opportunity to transit Western food imports into Russia, at a cost of course. ;)
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The Belarussians must be rubbing their hands as they have a great opportunity to transit Western food imports into Russia, at a cost of course. ;)
yep, who'd have thought there was money in being a food-launderer! ;D