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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 17 August 2014, 18:02:13
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Need to replace shower tray, as the daft mare bust it. Still waiting for quotes from local plumbers, but they seem slow and uninterested in the job. I was going to use a tradesman, as time is currently a problem for me... ...but if I want it done soon, I may have to do myself.
Still need to measure tray, but told its an unusual size. If so, what are the options?
I suspect the bottom row of tiles will break, where is best place to try to match them?
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Need to replace shower tray, as the daft mare bust it. Still waiting for quotes from local plumbers, but they seem slow and uninterested in the job. I was going to use a tradesman, as time is currently a problem for me... ...but if I want it done soon, I may have to do myself.
Still need to measure tray, but told its an unusual size. If so, what are the options?
I suspect the bottom row of tiles will break, where is best place to try to match them?
You need to measure the shower tray, then have a looksy on the t'internet to see if the places like B&Q, Wickes, etc do a size somewhere close....
If your going to break the bottom row of tiles and the replacement shower tray is white, then personally, id look at using white tiles...saves buggering around trying to match the old tiles. The white will match with the shower tray and look like a white border....
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Want me to pop round sometime and do a quote for you?
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Want me to pop round sometime and do a quote for you?
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Take steves,pikey house and live on site. :D
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Hard to say how far its embedded in the walls, but sizewise its looking like 900x750x130
The height may be suspect, as its impossible to tell if the "lip" (30-40mm) is part of the tray moulding, or separate.
On the upside, we've found the tiles :y
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Hard to say how far its embedded in the walls, but sizewise its looking like 900x750x130
The height may be suspect, as its impossible to tell if the "lip" (30-40mm) is part of the tray moulding, or separate.
On the upside, we've found the tiles :y
Batch numbers spring to mind :-\
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Hard to say how far its embedded in the walls, but sizewise its looking like 900x750x130
The height may be suspect, as its impossible to tell if the "lip" (30-40mm) is part of the tray moulding, or separate.
On the upside, we've found the tiles :y
Excellent :y
Doing a quick google....900x750 seems a fairly common size, i got loads of hits for that size :y
Im guessing but at most it will only be flush with the wall.....maybe tile depth ie tile stops on top of tray :y
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Hard to say how far its embedded in the walls, but sizewise its looking like 900x750x130
The height may be suspect, as its impossible to tell if the "lip" (30-40mm) is part of the tray moulding, or separate.
On the upside, we've found the tiles :y
900 x 750 they are available . . . just google 900 x 750 shower tray . . there will be loads of available suppliers
Just my opinion but . . . stay away from B&Q , homebase wickes etc. . . . doubt they will stock that size though :-*
Also be aware of the flimsy glassfibre/plastic trays . . better to go for a heavier stone resin type .
Lastly . . are you aware that the shower doors/cubilcle will have to be removed to fit a new tray?
HTH Al :y if want more info /advice PM me
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The drain is halfway along the longest side, not in the corner. That seems to be causing problems.
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Hard to say how far its embedded in the walls, but sizewise its looking like 900x750x130
The height may be suspect, as its impossible to tell if the "lip" (30-40mm) is part of the tray moulding, or separate.
On the upside, we've found the tiles :y
900 x 750 they are available . . . just google 900 x 750 shower tray . . there will be loads of available suppliers
Just my opinion but . . . stay away from B&Q , homebase wickes etc. . . . doubt they will stock that size though :-*
Also be aware of the flimsy glassfibre/plastic trays . . better to go for a heavier stone resin type .
Lastly . . are you aware that the shower doors/cubilcle will have to be removed to fit a new tray?
HTH Al :y if want more info /advice PM me
Yes, can they be reused?
Probably will go for plastic again - OK, more prone to splitting, but less likely to crack when she drops stuff on it...
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The drain is halfway along the longest side, not in the corner. That seems to be causing problems.
Im sure a man of your talents, can move the drain to suit the new tray :y
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The drain is halfway along the longest side, not in the corner. That seems to be causing problems.
Not really a problem . . . waste below existing tray can easily be adapted /moved to suit .
All shower trays have a built in fall towards the waste outlet . The tray it self is installed dead level both ways
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Size is probably 900 x 760
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog/Rectangular_Shower_Trays.html?size=900mm_x_760mm
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Probably will go for plastic again - OK, more prone to splitting, but less likely to crack when she drops stuff on it...
Would have to be something substantial to crack a stone resin tray.
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This sort of thing?
http://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/Coram-Universal-Rectangular-Shower-Tray-with-Upstands-Waste-4-Size-Options.aspx
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This sort of thing?
http://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/Coram-Universal-Rectangular-Shower-Tray-with-Upstands-Waste-4-Size-Options.aspx
Ideal for your problem
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The drain is halfway along the longest side, not in the corner. That seems to be causing problems.
Not really a problem . . . waste below existing tray can easily be adapted /moved to suit .
All shower trays have a built in fall towards the waste outlet . The tray it self is installed dead level both ways
You would think so, wouldn't you, my expensive stone tray did not, so I had to mount it with a fall, which made fitting the mermaid boards and shower door challenging. >:( :y
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I only intended to remove the panel to see the plumbing underneath, after touching up the painted wall in the garage, and before I knew it, the door, screen and screen framework were all out.
S'pose I may as well do the job now.
Any tips for attempting to remove the tiles without breakage? Or more chance of wearing foreskin earwarmers?
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Er, carefully... ;D
Joking aside, careful application of a putty knife might see some come away intact :-\ does rather depend on who fitted them and how :y
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I replaced our shower tray without breaking too many tiles. I had a carbide tipped thing for my dremel which I used to mill out all of the grout in between the tiles, then worked on each tile individually starting from one corner.
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Removed one tile so far. Broken 1 tile so far ;D
Got some shit in my eye so given up for the day now.
I'm on a borrowed dremel, and fast running out of bits anyway ;D
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Removed one tile so far. Broken 1 tile so far ;D
Got some shit in my eye so given up for the day now.
I'm on a borrowed dremel, and fast running out of bits anyway ;D
Sounds like the blurb for a really bad action film ;D
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i'd suggest "ibath" - you can find their store on the well known auction site. they are based in Nuneaton and their stone resin trays are good as are their doors etc
get a bricklayers bolster under the tiles: just replace them. Life is too short to try to reuse if you can replace them
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Removed one tile so far. Broken 1 tile so far ;D
Got some shit in my eye so given up for the day now.
I'm on a borrowed dremel, and fast running out of bits anyway ;D
Sounds like the blurb for a really bad action film ;D
I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking "did he knacker six dremel bits or only five?" Now to tell you the truth I forgot myself in all this excitement......you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? ;D
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Isn't there an ultra sonic thingamyjig for removing grout ? Maybe cut in deeper, past the tile adhesive and pull the tray out sideways to leave the tiles on?
Failing that, angle grinder with cutting disc. Or bigger Sammy ;D
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All the bottom row of tiles are off.
A "small" problem though, clearly over the years, the plasterboard had gone soft (leaked?) and a fair bit of it has come away with the tiles. What remains doesn't look great in places. Cock.
Somehow I seemed to have cut myself fairly deeply. Pretty certain it wasn't the grinder, so guess it was the edge of a tile... ...so now its bath time :)
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Ceramic tiles are razor sharp when broken.. I did much the same removing the tiles at the bath end when the shower was changed; "Oh ouch.. ooh, blood.. ooh, that's deep. Where's the electrical tape gone.." (because we all know electrical tape works just like stitches, right?)
Oh and the plasterboard always comes off with the tiles.. time to get a plasterer in! ;)
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Isn't there an ultra sonic thingamyjig for removing grout ? Maybe cut in deeper, past the tile adhesive and pull the tray out sideways to leave the tiles on?
Failing that, angle grinder with cutting disc. Or bigger Sammy ;D
Multitool with abrasive blade . . . works a treat . . .with no tile damage :y :y :y
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All the bottom row of tiles are off.
A "small" problem though, clearly over the years, the plasterboard had gone soft (leaked?) and a fair bit of it has come away with the tiles. What remains doesn't look great in places. Cock.
Somehow I seemed to have cut myself fairly deeply. Pretty certain it wasn't the grinder, so guess it was the edge of a tile... ...so now its bath time :)
just cut out the crappy bits and replace with cement based tile backing board - that will take any penetrating damp. Screw on with plasterboard screws and glue it as well for good measure ( get a tube of grab adhesive). I wouldn't advise plastering - its not needed and if you have heavy tiles >20kg per sq metre its not recommended anyway