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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Andy H on 26 September 2014, 14:25:22
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
"Tax not in the post" then :)
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
The DVLA computer will now display the fact to all interested parties you have paid your tax and as you paid online you must have a record of the debit/credit card payment.
So do not worry the ANPR system should not ping on your car. ;)
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
The DVLA computer will now display the fact to all interested parties you have paid your tax and as you paid online you must have a record of the debit/credit card payment.
So do not worry the ANPR system should not ping on your car. ;)
Computing errors do happen though don't they. But hopefully they'd give you the chance to prove yourself (via bank statement for example) before they crushed your car erroneously >:(
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
The DVLA computer will now display the fact to all interested parties you have paid your tax and as you paid online you must have a record of the debit/credit card payment.
So do not worry the ANPR system should not ping on your car. ;)
Guaranteed 100% reliable. :)
No problems ......ever..ever..ever. :)
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We will all be in the same position soon , relying too much on technology. I think the paper disc is best, but it is a good way of making a few more redundant..
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So do not worry the ANPR system should not ping on your car. ;)
Ah, I love that word. Used all the time in IT whenever there's a chance it might go wrong but you don't really want to say that. I.e. all the time..
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
You will be sent an email saying that you have taxed said vehicle. ::) :y ;D
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Only if you enter your (optional) email address :-\
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Only if you enter your (optional) email address :-\
Yes but you can opt out of junk mail so no probs with crap I have done this for the last 5 years :y :y
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Got that :y just highlighting the fact that being optional, people might overlook the address and then wonder why they received no receipt :y
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Got that :y just highlighting the fact that being optional, people might overlook the address and then wonder why they received no receipt :y
Ok sorry :-[
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my only question is, where does murphy's law stand on this topic !!
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
You will be sent an email saying that you have taxed said vehicle. ::) :y ;D
I did that and I have the email which I printed and stuck in the glove box - I still don't like not receiving an official document :(
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Just paid £285 on line for road tax starting 1st October.
Under the new regulations I don't need to display a tax disk so therefore they won't put one in the post ::)
Really not sure I am comfortable with a system where the penalty for not taxing & insuring is having your car crushed but they can't be bothered to send me something tangible to acknowledge that I have jumped through all the hoops >:(
The DVLA computer will now display the fact to all interested parties you have paid your tax and as you paid online you must have a record of the debit/credit card payment.
So do not worry the ANPR system should not ping on your car. ;)
I admire your faith........
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my only question is, where does murphy's law stand on this topic !!
Normal rules apply. If something can go wrong then it will go wrong eventually.
In my case I am dreadful at remembering anniversaries, If the reminder gets lost in the post next year then I won't remember :(
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my only question is, where does murphy's law stand on this topic !!
Normal rules apply. If something can go wrong then it will go wrong eventually.
In my case I am dreadful at remembering anniversaries, If the reminder gets lost in the post next year then I won't remember :(
+1 at both
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We were discussing the new Road Fund Licence set up at work today and allegedly you now dont need to have insurance in place to tax a car under the new system - does anyone know if this is the case??
DB
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We were discussing the new Road Fund Licence set up at work today and allegedly you now dont need to have insurance in place to tax a car under the new system - does anyone know if this is the case??
DB
it's a c0ck up if it is the case ..... I very much doubt that's right though. :-\
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We were discussing the new Road Fund Licence set up at work today and allegedly you now dont need to have insurance in place to tax a - does anyone know if this is the case??car under the new system
DB
Yes you do :y :y
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I did a quick google and it would appear that when you buy a car from someone else they get an automatic refund when the DVLA get the V5 with a change of keeper, and before you can drive it you call a 24 hour automated helpline to set up RFL so you can drive it home. We all know that the Motor Insurance Database has a 2 day lag for new info so even if you arranged inurance on the car when you bought it you either can't tax it until that info is updated OR they dont check and just issue tax......
This was backed up by someone who taxed a car this week at the post office and was told that they no longer needed proof of insurance.......
If that is the case then I despair as I thought one of the benefits of this new system was to try and stop all the uninsured drivers getting away with it by buying cars with t & t.
DB
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This was backed up by someone who taxed a car this week at the post office and was told that they no longer needed proof of insurance.......
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In the same way you can tax your car online ....... the powers that be know whether it's insured or not - but I take your point re a delay.
SWMBO received a letter a few months after we bought her car suggesting that the insurance data base showed that it wasn't insured ....... it was - I had the certificate. A call to her insurer sorted it.
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Oh great so more ruddy cameras trackin your journeys. >:( Now a glimpse into the future ...... so as time goes by, some smart arse computer will come on-line & automatically ticket you :o cos no way could you have travelled from point A to point B legally in the time noted from the data collected for your car this week & it happened on 3 occasions & your license has been revoked & £1000 has been removed from your bank account :D :D :D
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big brother is perfect you know!!
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You'd think in this day and age they could give refunds to the day. :-\ As we now cannot sell a car with remaining tax, think of all the 'overlaps' that will occur when a car is sold mid month and all the extra money that the revenue will be collecting. ::) Bastards! >:(
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We were discussing the new Road Fund Licence set up at work today and allegedly you now dont need to have insurance in place to tax a car under the new system - does anyone know if this is the case??
DB
it's a c0ck up if it is the case ..... I very much doubt that's right though. :-\
When I taxed my Discovery earlier this month there was no mention of insurance check,only mot check ::)
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
That is correct as, to confirm that stated above, all the relevant information like insurance cover is now on the main DVLA computer and it any of the necessary is not in place -"Ping!"- a ANPR camera will get you and a police patrol will follow it up. :D :D ;)
The MOT being shown to the post office clerk will, I expect, soon also be a thing of the past as that can be forged, but the computer system with insurance company confirmation cannot (usually it is correct!!) :)
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
That is correct as, to confirm that stated above, all the relevant information like insurance cover is now on the main DVLA computer and it any of the necessary is not in place -"Ping!"- a ANPR camera will get you and a police patrol will follow it up. :D :D ;)
The MOT being shown to the post office clerk will, I expect, soon also be a thing of the past as that can be forged, but the computer system with insurance company confirmation cannot (usually it is correct!!) :)
There's going to be a shed load of pingiing in them plod cars ;D
Everything is far too reliant on computers nowadays , that can be good or very bad when it all goes wrong :(
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
That is correct as, to confirm that stated above, all the relevant information like insurance cover is now on the main DVLA computer and it any of the necessary is not in place -"Ping!"- a ANPR camera will get you and a police patrol will follow it up. :D :D ;)
The MOT being shown to the post office clerk will, I expect, soon also be a thing of the past as that can be forged, but the computer system with insurance company confirmation cannot (usually it is correct!!) :)
There's going to be a shed load of pingiing in them plod cars ;D
Everything is far too reliant on computers nowadays , that can be good or very bad when it all goes wrong :(
The flaw in the system of course Emd, as I have stated before, is that there are far too few traffic officers patrolling out there to catch all the "pings" and the culprits that cause them. All this new technology is great, but unless you have enough police officers trained in enough patrol cars out there all too many criminals will initially escape the net. They will eventually get caught, but they will be on the road for all too long. :( :(
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
That is correct as, to confirm that stated above, all the relevant information like insurance cover is now on the main DVLA computer and it any of the necessary is not in place -"Ping!"- a ANPR camera will get you and a police patrol will follow it up. :D :D ;)
The MOT being shown to the post office clerk will, I expect, soon also be a thing of the past as that can be forged, but the computer system with insurance company confirmation cannot (usually it is correct!!) :)
There's going to be a shed load of pingiing in them plod cars ;D
Everything is far too reliant on computers nowadays , that can be good or very bad when it all goes wrong :(
The flaw in the system of course Emd, as I have stated before, is that there are far too few traffic officers patrolling out there to catch all the "pings" and the culprits that cause them. All this new technology is great, but unless you have enough police officers trained in enough patrol cars out there all too many criminals will initially escape the net. They will eventually get caught, but they will be on the road for all too long. :( :(
That's right Lizzie , just what i was thinking :( I think the plod cars can turn off the ping machine at any time .
So ill be taxing my car in 2 months , i go to the post office .. they scan relevant documents , you pay and thats it ??? Do you get a receipt for proof of payment if say by paying cash :-\
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I don't think the post ofiice will be doing Car Tax after this month - it's all dealt with DVLA direct I am told (could be wrong) through online and 24 hour automated telephone, they then have payment details electronically to use to refund any unused RFL if and when you sell the car.
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I don't think the post ofiice will be doing Car Tax after this month - it's all dealt with DVLA direct I am told (could be wrong) through online and 24 hour automated telephone, they then have payment details electronically to use to refund any unused RFL if and when you sell the car.
Well thats going to cause a lot of trouble . I dont like the idea of no physical receipt in your hand and relying on DVLA to confirm anything :(
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I don't know what everyone is worried about. It's all going to be handled by a public sector IT system. We all know they never fail. :-X
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I did say to the guy who said no insurance check was done by the Post Office person that it was all on the data base and he said she did not touch the terminal at all and just checked his MOT - handed the insurance cert back to him without looking at it stating it was no longer required.
That is correct as, to confirm that stated above, all the relevant information like insurance cover is now on the main DVLA computer and it any of the necessary is not in place -"Ping!"- a ANPR camera will get you and a police patrol will follow it up. :D :D ;)
The MOT being shown to the post office clerk will, I expect, soon also be a thing of the past as that can be forged, but the computer system with insurance company confirmation cannot (usually it is correct!!) :)
There's going to be a shed load of pingiing in them plod cars ;D
Everything is far too reliant on computers nowadays , that can be good or very bad when it all goes wrong :(
The flaw in the system of course Emd, as I have stated before, is that there are far too few traffic officers patrolling out there to catch all the "pings" and the culprits that cause them. All this new technology is great, but unless you have enough police officers trained in enough patrol cars out there all too many criminals will initially escape the net. They will eventually get caught, but they will be on the road for all too long. :( :(
That's right Lizzie , just what i was thinking :( I think the plod cars can turn off the ping machine at any time .
So ill be taxing my car in 2 months , i go to the post office .. they scan relevant documents , you pay and thats it ??? Do you get a receipt for proof of payment if say by paying cash :-\
Yes, you get a receipt no matter how you pay :y :y
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I don't think the post ofiice will be doing Car Tax after this month - it's all dealt with DVLA direct I am told (could be wrong) through online and 24 hour automated telephone, they then have payment details electronically to use to refund any unused RFL if and when you sell the car.
I am not aware of that, and I have checked their web site and there is no indication of any forthcoming change.
Yes, that would cause a load of bother for people who haven't got an internet connection or have not got a debit/credit card.
That would be, for now, one change too far for a lot of elderly people plus others :P :P
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I don't think the post ofiice will be doing Car Tax after this month - it's all dealt with DVLA direct I am told (could be wrong) through online and 24 hour automated telephone, they then have payment details electronically to use to refund any unused RFL if and when you sell the car.
AFAIK you can still use the post office. I could google it but, then again, so could you have before posting.
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From Oct 1st, you get tax from Post Office, Online or a 24 Hour Manned Telephone No., so on the last 2 you could effectively Tax your Car at 3 am on a Sunday morning. however, unless the Insurance and MOT for the Car is all valid on the System for that vehicle, then No Tax.
So whilst in theory you may be able to get Tax after buying a new Car, out of Hours, good luck with trying to get a MID Update on your Car Insurance at the same time.
Unless they change the proposed System, I cant see it working for some.
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Ok , not about tax....but i could never understand how this worked with APNR camera's.
I used to rent a trafic....i was given the insurance cert...
On it, it said.....any vehicle i own, rent, lease....the driver of the vehicle is insured. (bit basic info, but the gist of the cert)
So, if he's leasing/renting a vehicle, as it wont be in his name on the V5, how come it never gets pinged by the APNR camera as no insurance :-\ :-\
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Because you, as the registered keeper hold a valid insurance policy :y
Assuming I have understood your query at the wrong end of a twenty hour day :-\
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Ok,so today I went to the post office to change taxation class from disabled back to normal on my touareg,had to tax it from 1st October so did that there and then with no problem,got back to work and did an askmid check on the Touareg and its showing as uninsured(doesnt surprise me as it was only added to my traders Saturday afternoon(,just goes to prove that the Dvla have dropped the insurance check,chappy behind counter said he had online checked mot as I asked if he wanted to see it and my insurance policy,he said no. ???
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Ok,so today I went to the post office to change taxation class from disabled back to normal on my touareg,had to tax it from 1st October so did that there and then with no problem,got back to work and did an askmid check on the Touareg and its showing as uninsured(doesnt surprise me as it was only added to my traders Saturday afternoon(,just goes to prove that the Dvla have dropped the insurance check,chappy behind counter said he had online checked mot as I asked if he wanted to see it and my insurance policy,he said no. ???
Post office have been electronically checking mot and ins for donks. Where have you lot been ???
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Ok,so today I went to the post office to change taxation class from disabled back to normal on my touareg,had to tax it from 1st October so did that there and then with no problem,got back to work and did an askmid check on the Touareg and its showing as uninsured(doesnt surprise me as it was only added to my traders Saturday afternoon(,just goes to prove that the Dvla have dropped the insurance check,chappy behind counter said he had online checked mot as I asked if he wanted to see it and my insurance policy,he said no. ???
Post office have been electronically checking mot and ins for donks. Where have you lot been ???
I know that but they are not checking insurance any more so its changed