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Title: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 18:46:55
I'm planning to start mine in the next 6 weeks or so. Couple of questions.

1. Kevin, are you still willing to drill/tap/fit nozzles for me?
2. Has anyone got a spare V6 inlet manifold they would like to exchange with mine so I can keep the car running while Kevin does the above? Or do we have a donor manifold to do the rounds with yet?
3. How long should I wait before leaving another message on Jeremy's voicemail? Or how long did it take for him to get back to other people who were trying to contact him?

Also, I was thinking (dangerous I know!)

For those people who want a large LPG tank but still want the ability to load through... You could always fit a tank lengthways down one side of the boot. I did this in my Rangey and it was fine. The only comment I would make is that you may have problems with the tank pick up under very hard acceleration/braking. Just a thought!!
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Jay w on 20 June 2008, 19:34:59
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I'm planning to start mine in the next 6 weeks or so. Couple of questions.

1. Kevin, are you still willing to drill/tap/fit nozzles for me?
2. Has anyone got a spare V6 inlet manifold they would like to exchange with mine so I can keep the car running while Kevin does the above? Or do we have a donor manifold to do the rounds with yet?
3. How long should I wait before leaving another message on Jeremy's voicemail? Or how long did it take for him to get back to other people who were trying to contact him?

Also, I was thinking (dangerous I know!)

For those people who want a large LPG tank but still want the ability to load through... You could always fit a tank lengthways down one side of the boot. I did this in my Rangey and it was fine. The only comment I would make is that you may have problems with the tank pick up under very hard acceleration/braking. Just a thought!!

Be persistent with Jeremy, he is a genuine guy but i honestly believe he is just swamped with orders, almost a victim of his own sucess

I'm not sure about the tank running lengthways, i would check the LPG code of practice, however i would say it will upset the handling a bit when the tank is full
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: psychnurse on 20 June 2008, 19:43:23
Not wanting to hijack or anything... but.... how would I go about an LPG for a 3.0 elite? Are the kits ok?
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Jay w on 20 June 2008, 19:47:35
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Not wanting to hijack or anything... but.... how would I go about an LPG for a 3.0 elite? Are the kits ok?

Speak to Jeremy, he will be able to supply you a kit for a reasonable price

http://www.lpg.myzen.co.uk/ufit/index.html

he talks about a 8 cylinder kit, he does 6 cyl kits as well
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: psychnurse on 20 June 2008, 19:53:42
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Not wanting to hijack or anything... but.... how would I go about an LPG for a 3.0 elite? Are the kits ok?

Speak to Jeremy, he will be able to supply you a kit for a reasonable price

http://www.lpg.myzen.co.uk/ufit/index.html

he talks about a 8 cylinder kit, he does 6 cyl kits as well



Thanks cock!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 22:34:09
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I'm planning to start mine in the next 6 weeks or so. Couple of questions.

1. Kevin, are you still willing to drill/tap/fit nozzles for me?
2. Has anyone got a spare V6 inlet manifold they would like to exchange with mine so I can keep the car running while Kevin does the above? Or do we have a donor manifold to do the rounds with yet?
3. How long should I wait before leaving another message on Jeremy's voicemail? Or how long did it take for him to get back to other people who were trying to contact him?

Also, I was thinking (dangerous I know!)

For those people who want a large LPG tank but still want the ability to load through... You could always fit a tank lengthways down one side of the boot. I did this in my Rangey and it was fine. The only comment I would make is that you may have problems with the tank pick up under very hard acceleration/braking. Just a thought!!

Be persistent with Jeremy, he is a genuine guy but i honestly believe he is just swamped with orders, almost a victim of his own sucess

I'm not sure about the tank running lengthways, i would check the LPG code of practice, however i would say it will upset the handling a bit when the tank is full

I checked this when I fitted it into my Rangey. It states that the tank must be securely mounted, not the direction of the mounting. I even asked the guys at Tinley Tech when I popped over for a frame and some bits and they said it was fine!

As for the handling... Yes it would make a small difference but most people don't drive their cars to the limit anyway!!
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 22:36:59
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Not wanting to hijack or anything... but.... how would I go about an LPG for a 3.0 elite? Are the kits ok?

That's what I'm sticking it on!! They are proven to be successful on the Miggy so I'm willing to fit it. Having had problem with the Rangey when I got it due to poor kit compatibility/fitting I want to be sure this one's done right. That's why I'm fitting it myself (with a little help from Kevin  ;))

Jay, do I remember you saying you had a spare inlet manifold?
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 June 2008, 22:41:07
I can drill and tap the manifold no problem. If you can get a spare one to me and, if possible, a set of nozzles I'll sort it out. :y

I would get your order in well in advance because, as said, Jeremy is flat out and I'm waiting on bits with an almost complete conversion now.

Kevin
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 22:48:22
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I can drill and tap the manifold no problem. If you can get a spare one to me and, if possible, a set of nozzles I'll sort it out. :y

I would get your order in well in advance because, as said, Jeremy is flat out and I'm waiting on bits with an almost complete conversion now.

Kevin

I've called and left a message today, and also tried another couple of times but just rung and rung until getting voicemail!

I don't actually need the kit until about this time next month but thought it wise to get the order in early!! Do you know if he ships the kits from Fareham or drop ships from elsewhere? Only I'm off on holiday to the Isle of Wight at the start of next month and was thinking I could swing past his place on the way back and collect the kit. Actually, if I can get a manifold in time I suppose I could drop all the relevant bits to you too Kevin!

I'll keep persisting with Jeremy and hopefully get through to him over the next couple of days! I take it the mobile number listed in his adverts is the best number to try?
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 22:49:27
Oh, I forgot to ask... How's your conversion going? Apart from the obvious lack of vaporiser!!  :question :question :question
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 June 2008, 23:11:26
I'm not sure where the orders ship from. My tank came separately with a different courier so I imagine that was dispatched direct from a supplier.

My install is going OK. Got most of the front end in last weekend and have been in Denmark on business most of the week. Will have another onslaught this weekend. Just got a traditional towbar to replace my removable one which will avoid problems with the reinforcing plate on the boot floor and give me somewhere to mount the filler.

Kevin
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 June 2008, 23:13:49
I've still not made my mind up about the filler point...  Was tempted to put it on the tow bar but still not sure...
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 June 2008, 23:20:12
My filler is going on the panel

Regardless of the COP I wouldn't be mounting the tank along one side of the boot - it would kill anyone in the back seat, in an impact..
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 June 2008, 23:20:43
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I've still not made my mind up about the filler point...  Was tempted to put it on the tow bar but still not sure...


Only downsides I can see is that you have to bend down a bit to fill it, and it's a pain if you have to fill up frequently when hitched-up. I only tow occasionally and for relatively short distances so I figure it will look less out of place than a filler on bodywork / bumper.

Kevin
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 June 2008, 23:31:51
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I've still not made my mind up about the filler point...  Was tempted to put it on the tow bar but still not sure...


Only downsides I can see is that you have to bend down a bit to fill it, and it's a pain if you have to fill up frequently when hitched-up. I only tow occasionally and for relatively short distances so I figure it will look less out of place than a filler on bodywork / bumper.

Kevin


I can squeeze in even with the stabliser on
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 June 2008, 14:38:23
Spoke briefly to Jeremy a short while ago and reserved my kit!!!

Decided to go with the 4 hole 80L cylinder tank in boot as I want the range! By my reckoning it should get me close to 300 miles on normal round town use and nearer 400 on a run. Not sure about towing... Probably closer to 220 but you can't win them all!!

Oh, and OOF members are getting a discount!  :y :y :y :y

At the price he's quoted I'll be saving money well within the year, even with allowing for replacing some items like HT leads for new when I do the conversion!!

Who was it who collected their kit? If you can own up and PM me the price it'd be great because Jeremy has said I'll get the same deal!! (The price he's given me at the moment includes delivery!)

I've got to give him a call during the week to finalise all the details but I should be on gas by the end of August!! I'm hoping to get it done quicker but I'm not sure if I'll get a chance!

Right, has anyone got a spare inlet manifold to donate to the V6 converts so we can keep the cars on the road?? If not I guess I'll be buying one, so if anyone has one for sale let me know!!!  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: zirk on 21 June 2008, 15:31:17
No chance of a LPG Kit Party, yet then?

Just a Thought, I'ld be up for it.
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: sassanach on 21 June 2008, 15:56:03
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Decided to go with the 4 hole 80L cylinder tank in boot as I want the range! By my reckoning it should get me close to 300 miles on normal round town use and nearer 400 on a run. Not sure about towing... Probably closer to 220 but you can't win them all!!
i had to install a 100 litre tank to get that sort of range.
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 June 2008, 18:30:19
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Decided to go with the 4 hole 80L cylinder tank in boot as I want the range! By my reckoning it should get me close to 300 miles on normal round town use and nearer 400 on a run. Not sure about towing... Probably closer to 220 but you can't win them all!!
i had to install a 100 litre tank to get that sort of range.

Must be that I'm a bit lighter on the pedals then!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not sure how long that'll last but hey ho!! My normal "around town" driving is rarely fewer than 20 miles each way because I live in the sticks!!!
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 June 2008, 18:32:05
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No chance of a LPG Kit Party, yet then?

Just a Thought, I'ld be up for it.

Although I've not done a full installation, and never done a Miggy, I think that it's probably a bit too involved for doing at a party!  :-? :-?
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: JonArgraig on 21 June 2008, 19:18:19
I used to do LPG installs back just before the injecttion kits became main stream. and to be fair, a system could be done in a day, with say 4 people on each car... easy

I would be up for helping out any one with a install. though my know how on the injector mounting is some what lacking
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 June 2008, 21:04:48
Right, managed to speak to Jeremy again today. As has already been mentioned the Vaporisers are in! Luckily I managed to get through before he shipped Kevin's so I've asked him to stick a set of nozzles in with it for me for Kevin to fit to my spare manifold, which should be on the way in the next couple of days! (Thanks Chris) :y :y :y

During the conversation I managed to find out the the single hole tanks, although slightly cheaper and capable of supplying cars up to about 215bhp, are less reliable. I did think this was the case and decided the 4 hole is the way to go, especially as I tow and am planning some pretty long and hilly journeys in the next few years! ::)

We also discussed filler mounting and I was saying about not wanting to cut the rear quarter panel for fear of damage. Jeremy said that one of his fitters will cut the hole for me, using a special punch, and fit the filler into the gap created when I'm there collecting the kit. What a result... I'll end up with the filler in line with the petrol flap like Entwood's!

Anyway, complete kit will be sat on the shelf for me on July 18th and they'll do one of the bits I was least looking forwards to!!! :y :y :y

All I hope now is that we get some decent weather in July/August so I can get it all in quite quickly!! I think I'll probably try to get some photo's taken whilst I'm going and see if I can either create or add to a How To!

Watch this space....

Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 June 2008, 23:38:06
I was also worried about cutting the hole, but Mr Sassanach has kindly let me his Qmax cutter punch - apparantly it goes through it like butter with no damage at all :y
Title: Re: V6 LPG Conversion
Post by: Lazydocker on 24 June 2008, 08:37:55
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I was also worried about cutting the hole, but Mr Sassanach has kindly let me his Qmax cutter punch - apparantly it goes through it like butter with no damage at all :y

Exactly what Jeremy was telling me... Also, apparently, it leaves an edge on the hole that is smooth enough to run your finger around!! Anyway, I don't have to worry about that bit now!  :y :y :y :y It'll make the filler pipe run so much easier too!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D