Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: TheBoy on 02 October 2014, 19:10:55
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No, not gay alloys, a new ride.
Not sure I want another Omega, after 11 years. But don't really want to pay a massive amount at the moment either, for other reasons.
Big(ish). 4/5 doors. Mile cruncher. Reasonably cheap to run. Some element of performance and handling required, but doesn't have to be mental. Auto or manual.
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No, not gay alloys, a new ride.
Not sure I want another Omega, after 11 years. But don't really want to pay a massive amount at the moment either, for other reasons.
Big(ish). 4/5 doors. Mile cruncher. Reasonably cheap to run. Some element of performance and handling required, but doesn't have to be mental. Auto or manual.
Merc or Bmw :-X
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Low mileage desmond ::)
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Low mileage desmond ::)
Its an auto, isn't it?
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Yup :y
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Merc
Not until they learn how to design a chassis, thoroughly incompetent.
or Bmw :-X
Not whilst my foreskin won't reach my ears
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Yup :y
Nah, car not powerful enough for an auto.
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Honda Legend.
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Alfa 166
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Honda Legend.
Considered, but I'm only 44 ;)
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Yup :y
Nah, car not powerful enough for an auto.
Bah, it's still a sensible longtermer :y
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The delightfully styled Vauxhall Insicknia.
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Yup :y
Nah, car not powerful enough for an auto.
Bah, it's still a sensible longtermer :y
Aye. Not for me though. I'd be screaming at it every day. In manual form maybe, though I'd soon tire of the Omega manual box
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The delightfully styled Vauxhall Insicknia.
Hmmm, possible. Not sure.
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Citroen C6......Nice looking car. Not bland like many German marques.
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Yup :y
Nah, car not powerful enough for an auto.
Bah, it's still a sensible longtermer :y
Aye. Not for me though. I'd be screaming at it every day. In manual form maybe, though I'd soon tire of the Omega manual box
Fair dos, would save your tyres/brakes budget though ::)
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The delightfully styled Vauxhall Insicknia.
Hmmm, possible. Not sure.
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I'm only kidding. The Insicknia is a mongrel. :-\
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V70 :)
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Here do... (http://www.networkq.co.uk/used-vehicles/2801706-Vauxhall+Astra) :y
Or... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=126448.msg1612102;boardseen#new
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Not sure I want another Omega, after 11 years. But don't really want to pay a massive amount at the moment either, for other reasons.
That is the exact dilemma I had when my DTi Elite died...
After fruitless searches for something different I ended up with Omega number 5 :-X
Huge problem is that you can't find anything that offers you what an Omega Elite / MV6 can for the same money, you can't find the best proven parts at the right price that years of research on here has resolved (an indication of the knowledge that has been built up on OOF) and there will always be that 'comparing it to my MV6 or Elite' scenario.....
While my 2.6 project has been a lot of work (I'm getting there slowly...!), every single thing I've needed to purchase, modify, swap, repair etc etc has been done before either by me or by someone on here, at no point have I struggled with obtaining or fitting anything at the right price. A little further research on the Diff repair and obtaining the right radiator for a 2.6/3.2 but other than that it's all been pretty much second nature thanks to this site and the people on it.
The only way you can get over the above (in my opinion) is to up the budget substantially and look at far newer vehicles... something in XF territory...
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LS430/LS460
Fuel consumption might be an issue, Size also, Possibly the handling while we are at it.
On the plus side they are one of the best well equipped cars money can buy, Known for reliability, Powerful 0-60 under 6 seconds.
Still saying all that I consider it a worthy Omega replacement... :)
It's a marmite car at the end of the day. :y
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Phaeton.......They are HUGE and weigh in the region of 2.3 tonnes.
They depreciate heavily though so there are bargains to be had.
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Chevrolet Orlando. :)
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V70 :)
I'm not yet incontinent.
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Phaeton.......They are HUGE and weigh in the region of 2.3 tonnes.
They depreciate heavily though so there are bargains to be had.
Indeed. We've been over this before so many times.
Options;
Phaeton
Vxr8
Anything else is either a step back or EVEN MORE expensive. Insignia under powered and gay wheel drive, and as Al disvovered, much smaller. Plus donut tank only for gas.
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Not sure I want another Omega, after 11 years. But don't really want to pay a massive amount at the moment either, for other reasons.
That is the exact dilemma I had when my DTi Elite died...
After fruitless searches for something different I ended up with Omega number 5 :-X
Huge problem is that you can't find anything that offers you what an Omega Elite / MV6 can for the same money, you can't find the best proven parts at the right price that years of research on here has resolved (an indication of the knowledge that has been built up on OOF) and there will always be that 'comparing it to my MV6 or Elite' scenario.....
While my 2.6 project has been a lot of work (I'm getting there slowly...!), every single thing I've needed to purchase, modify, swap, repair etc etc has been done before either by me or by someone on here, at no point have I struggled with obtaining or fitting anything at the right price. A little further research on the Diff repair and obtaining the right radiator for a 2.6/3.2 but other than that it's all been pretty much second nature thanks to this site and the people on it.
The only way you can get over the above (in my opinion) is to up the budget substantially and look at far newer vehicles... something in XF territory...
Although good'uns are getting hard to find... ...and all are 11years old.
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LS430/LS460
Fuel consumption might be an issue, Size also, Possibly the handling while we are at it.
On the plus side they are one of the best well equipped cars money can buy, Known for reliability, Powerful 0-60 under 6 seconds.
Still saying all that I consider it a worthy Omega replacement... :)
It's a marmite car at the end of the day. :y
Nah. I'd rather have a beemer that a spived up Toyota. See above.
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Plus the forum is waiting for a new subject to pull apart, dissect and start over on.
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Phaeton.......They are HUGE and weigh in the region of 2.3 tonnes.
They depreciate heavily though so there are bargains to be had.
S'not ruled out. But a few reviews do mention high running costs.
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Phaeton.......They are HUGE and weigh in the region of 2.3 tonnes.
They depreciate heavily though so there are bargains to be had.
Indeed. We've been over this before so many times.
Options;
Phaeton
Vxr8
Anything else is either a step back or EVEN MORE expensive. Insignia under powered and gay wheel drive, and as Al disvovered, much smaller. Plus donut tank only for gas.
VXR8 is out of reach, pricewise. A shitty Insignia or similar would have to be diesel as LPG tanks will always be a pain in one.
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Not sure I want another Omega, after 11 years. But don't really want to pay a massive amount at the moment either, for other reasons.
That is the exact dilemma I had when my DTi Elite died...
After fruitless searches for something different I ended up with Omega number 5 :-X
Huge problem is that you can't find anything that offers you what an Omega Elite / MV6 can for the same money, you can't find the best proven parts at the right price that years of research on here has resolved (an indication of the knowledge that has been built up on OOF) and there will always be that 'comparing it to my MV6 or Elite' scenario.....
While my 2.6 project has been a lot of work (I'm getting there slowly...!), every single thing I've needed to purchase, modify, swap, repair etc etc has been done before either by me or by someone on here, at no point have I struggled with obtaining or fitting anything at the right price. A little further research on the Diff repair and obtaining the right radiator for a 2.6/3.2 but other than that it's all been pretty much second nature thanks to this site and the people on it.
The only way you can get over the above (in my opinion) is to up the budget substantially and look at far newer vehicles... something in XF territory...
Although good'uns are getting hard to find... ...and all are 11years old.
Very true, extremely hard to find now, that's why I went for the most corrosion free one I could find because everything else is fixable / swappable but corrosion is a journey of welding and paint spraying that never seems to end after its started...
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Merc
Not until they learn how to design a chassis, thoroughly incompetent.
or Bmw :-X
Not whilst my foreskin won't reach my ears
;D ;D,although newer Merc chassis are much better now,at least there is a bit of comfort,something that BMW seem to have given up on :-\
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I like Mercs... but even so I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before they're as "entertaining" to drive as an Omega. :-\
And a VW Phat-one is hardly an Omega substitute and isn't really suitable for "throwing around" in the fashion that TB allegedly does with the Omega ? :o
And they're awful on fuel... tax... not tremendously reliable if memory is correct. :-\
And personally I'd rather walk whilst being pissed on by my worst enemy than ever get in a Vx Insigni-fi-cant. >:(
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I like Mercs... but even so I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before they're as "entertaining" to drive as an Omega. :-\
And a VW Phat-one is hardly an Omega substitute and isn't really suitable for "throwing around" in the fashion that TB allegedly does with the Omega ? :o
And they're awful on fuel... tax... not tremendously reliable if memory is correct. :-\
And personally I'd rather walk whilst being pissed on by my worst enemy than ever get in a Vx Insigni-fi-cant. >:(
You don't like it then..... ;D ;D
I find it hard to believe that the Insignia was 'signed off' as fit for purpose.
It looks like it was designed by a dozen different people, none of whom saw what the others had come up with.
It really is hideously ugly and much like a 7 series BMW in that respect.
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Can't believe I'm actually suggesting this but Ford Mundano?St versions were available as petrol or diesel 4door saloon 4door with a hatchback[5 door in modern parlance] or estate. More basic or higher spec were of course available also.
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Can't believe I'm actually suggesting this but Ford Mundano?St versions were available as petrol or diesel 4door saloon 4door with a hatchback[5 door in modern parlance] or estate. More basic or higher spec were of course available also.
I was driving an 05 3.0 titanium Mondeo today,quick and comfy but wwd :-X
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I like Mercs... but even so I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before they're as "entertaining" to drive as an Omega. :-\
And a VW Phat-one is hardly an Omega substitute and isn't really suitable for "throwing around" in the fashion that TB allegedly does with the Omega ? :o
And they're awful on fuel... tax... not tremendously reliable if memory is correct. :-\
And personally I'd rather walk whilst being pissed on by my worst enemy than ever get in a Vx Insigni-fi-cant. >:(
You don't like it then..... ;D ;D
I find it hard to believe that the Insignia was 'signed off' as fit for purpose.
It looks like it was designed by a dozen different people, none of whom saw what the others had come up with.
It really is hideously ugly and much like a 7 series BMW in that respect.
I concur. It's an insult to everything GM ever did right. Contemptible heap of shite. :-X
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Phaeton.......They are HUGE and weigh in the region of 2.3 tonnes.
They depreciate heavily though so there are bargains to be had.
Indeed. We've been over this before so many times.
Options;
Phaeton
Vxr8
Anything else is either a step back or EVEN MORE expensive. Insignia under powered and gay wheel drive, and as Al disvovered, much smaller. Plus donut tank only for gas.
VXR8 is out of reach, pricewise. A shitty Insignia or similar would have to be diesel as LPG tanks will always be a pain in one.
Now then young man!
What have we learned from moving away from the tried and tested? It leads to disappointment and a great deal of expense to put right, or live with that disappointment for a very long time.
Because what your saying is, another omega, or....
.....a Diseasel Insignia. Have you gone completely OPPSING mental? ;D nice interior imo, but the rest of it is shocking.
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.,..monaro much cheaper. Cheap enough to suffer the enormous doors.
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.,..monaro much cheaper. Cheap enough to suffer the enormous doors.
Not so any more :'(
Nothing below £9995 :-\
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.,..monaro much cheaper. Cheap enough to suffer the enormous doors.
Not so any more :'(
Nothing below £9995 :-\
Cheaper than 15k for an r8 ;)
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.,..monaro much cheaper. Cheap enough to suffer the enormous doors.
Not so any more :'(
Nothing below £9995 :-\
Cheaper than 15k for an r8 ;)
That's one perspective ;D
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-MERIVA-VXR-/181540388232?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a44a67d88
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.,..monaro much cheaper. Cheap enough to suffer the enormous doors.
Not so any more :'(
Nothing below £9995 :-\
For £6000 TB can scare himself with 5 litres of Mercedes CLS500 of a 2006 vintage. :y
Monaro prices are simply crazy. :-\
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Spare parts prices and service ability would worry me :-\
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I can't believe you all let yourselves get sucked into this thread …
… you know that whatever you suggest, TB will have a reason not to like it because it's not an Omega ;) ;D
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Monaro with LPG is on my wish list in the future, problem is the little clapped out 1.4 LPG Tigra Tardis run around just refuses to die every MOT time.
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This thread is a wind up ::) TB will never be Omega-less :D Shame on you for even thinking of getting rid of the Omega :P :D
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Here do... (http://www.networkq.co.uk/used-vehicles/2801706-Vauxhall+Astra) :y
Or... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=126448.msg1612102;boardseen#new
Astra vxr is a handy car. Preferably one of the later ones with the fixed torque steer though.
Hatch backs, well, the Rover was a hatch back. Handy things to have. The only area the omega saloon falls short is load carrying.
So either a hatchback as a second car, or an omega estate.
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This thread is a wind up ::) TB will never be Omega-less :D Shame on you for even thinking of getting rid of the Omega :P :D
Suspect Mrs TB would like a non omega replacement for the Rover.
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This thread is a wind up ::) TB will never be Omega-less :D Shame on you for even thinking of getting rid of the Omega :P :D
Suspect Mrs TB would like a non omega replacement for the Rover.
Ar :)
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V6 turbo Vectra C/ SAAB 9-3 estate.
As well specced as an Omega more powerful, will carry as much or more, handles just as badly well so ride comfort is the same and they are cheap.
They are FWD but as you won't go BMW, Merc or Lexarse unless its a Jag, a Transit van or an 'exotic' performance/ hyper car you are kind of stuffed on that count
*edited to add*
Petrol V6 turbo not the diesel
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Cracking bulk heads on some Saabs ...?
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V6 turbo Vectra C/ SAAB 9-3 estate.
As well specced as an Omega more powerful, will carry as much or more, handles just as badly well so ride comfort is the same and they are cheap.
They are FWD but as you won't go BMW, Merc or Lexarse unless its a Jag, a Transit van or an 'exotic' performance/ hyper car you are kind of stuffed on that count
*edited to add*
Petrol V6 turbo not the diesel
I like Saab. :y
A 57 plate 2.8 V6 turbo should set old TB back about £3000/3500. :y
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
Yes , very easy to drift ... see clarkson ::) Mk's roundabouts + loud pedal :D
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Cracking bulk heads on some Saabs ...?
Yep, same as the Vauxhall its based on :-X
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Cracking bulk heads on some Saabs ...?
Yes, but not on the 2.8's, long before they were made
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I can't believe you all let yourselves get sucked into this thread …
… you know that whatever you suggest, TB will have a reason not to like it because it's not an Omega ;) ;D
Not quite. I have some odd demands - can't be Ford (I crash them), can't be blue (Mum will go mental, as she crashes them). With a buggered up back, it can't be stupidly sprung like those shitty Vectra-Cs or 93's. Merc can't make a chassis (even now), BMW can't make a decent car any more, except proper M's, and they are currently out of reach. And Omegas are getting too old, and being Vauxhall, rust like a bitch.
Due to lack of LPG around here, looks like its going to have to be a diesel >:(
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
If I could get one for Omega money, I'd consider it, just for a hoot, but suspect I'd not keep it long.
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
Yep. Good choice. I could go for one of these.
However, I get the impression that it could be 'cramped' inside........and TB is hardly what you could call svelte. ;D ;D
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Cracking bulk heads on some Saabs ...?
Only really heard of this on the cabriolets, easy enough to fix if you catch it early enough.
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
Yep. Good choice. I could go for one of these.
However, I get the impression that it could be 'cramped' inside........and TB is hardly what you could call svelte. ;D ;D
Only been in fwd 75's, enough room for my needs most of the time.
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Shame all 75's have such a dire interior, steam engine dials coupled with the cheapest of cheap plastic, what a delightful combination.
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
If I could get one for Omega money, I'd consider it, just for a hoot, but suspect I'd not keep it long.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201405063953175/sort/atcustom/page/3/usedcars/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/model/zt-t/radius/1500/make/mg/postcode/rh135ue?logcode=p
Not bad value, all things considered...
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MGZT V8... Rover body, Ford engine, BMW electrics...
What could possibly go wrong ::)
If I could get one for Omega money, I'd consider it, just for a hoot, but suspect I'd not keep it long.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201405063953175/sort/atcustom/page/3/usedcars/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/model/zt-t/radius/1500/make/mg/postcode/rh135ue?logcode=p
Not bad value, all things considered...
You'd have to really want one for that sort of cash. I don't really want one, just wouldn't mind one.
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What you really want is one of these... (I trust you can weld!)
(http://forums.mg-rover.org/images/dto_showcase/users/4614.jpg)
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What you really want is one of these... (I trust you can weld!)
(http://forums.mg-rover.org/images/dto_showcase/users/4614.jpg)
Always wanted one, but it'd be a constant work of love.
Hence, after something a bit more modern ;D
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As already mentioned Alfa 166......Citroen C6.
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As already mentioned Alfa 166......Citroen C6.
Oh, sorry, has to be something reasonably reliable, as I send her 40 miles up the M40 every day (and we just use whichever car is convenient)
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As already mentioned Alfa 166......Citroen C6.
Oh, sorry, has to be something reasonably reliable, as I send her 40 miles up the M40 every day (and we just use whichever car is convenient)
With an attitude like that you're bound to end up with another Omega.... ;D
We have exhausted just about every other car on the planet.
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What you really want is one of these... (I trust you can weld!)
(http://forums.mg-rover.org/images/dto_showcase/users/4614.jpg)
Always wanted one, but it'd be a constant work of love.
Hence, after something a bit more modern ;D
I did have one and trust me you wouldn't. Very nearly bankrupt me. ;D
Sounded nice though. :y
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-AUDI-A6-FSI-QUATTRO-SE-SALOON-PETROL-/291234676443?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43cef07edb
no?
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There's one open ended unknown...
Budget.
Omega money covers a pretty wide range... £150-£5k ::)
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L322 Range Rover, I know you could live with one.
I'm currently considering a new car, it'll either be another Range Rover, or a nearly new Volvo S80 D2...yes the one with a 1.6 diesel engine. But £20 RFL and 68 mpg is appealing, even though if 0-60 is 12 seconds ;D
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L322 Range Rover, I know you could live with one.
I'm currently considering a new car, it'll either be another Range Rover, or a nearly new Volvo S80 D2...yes the one with a 1.6 diesel engine. But £20 RFL and 68 mpg is appealing, even though if 0-60 is 12 seconds ;D
Even a 2.2 Omega with a slushbox is quicker than that ;D (at 45% of the mpg) ::)
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You know you want too... :y
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409247673304?atmobcid=soc4
Going by the tread so far looks like another Omega it is then... :y
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L322 Range Rover, I know you could live with one.
I'm currently considering a new car, it'll either be another Range Rover, or a nearly new Volvo S80 D2...yes the one with a 1.6 diesel engine. But £20 RFL and 68 mpg is appealing, even though if 0-60 is 12 seconds ;D
Mr Joshwyatt. When I'm an old....old....old... man with an allotment and erectile dysfunction I may well also consider this Volvo. ;) ;D ;D ;D
...but while I have breath in my body I'd prefer a TVR Griffith 500. :y
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I rekon one of these... Yeah? :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/5D76C060-70E8-41D6-9267-7A8643E18B97_zpscsosmtdv.jpg)
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I rekon one of these... Yeah? :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/5D76C060-70E8-41D6-9267-7A8643E18B97_zpscsosmtdv.jpg)
Hell yes... pink with chrome wheels ;D
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I rekon one of these... Yeah? :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/5D76C060-70E8-41D6-9267-7A8643E18B97_zpscsosmtdv.jpg)
Hell yes... pink with chrome wheels ;D
Lady Penelope. :-* :-*
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You know you want too... :y
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409247673304?atmobcid=soc4
Going by the tread so far looks like another Omega it is then... :y
Looks to be a bargain :y ...... just needs mats & a towbar! ::)
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L322 Range Rover, I know you could live with one.
I'm currently considering a new car, it'll either be another Range Rover, or a nearly new Volvo S80 D2...yes the one with a 1.6 diesel engine. But £20 RFL and 68 mpg is appealing, even though if 0-60 is 12 seconds ;D
Even a 2.2 Omega with a slushbox is quicker than that ;D (at 45% of the mpg) ::)
The reason I bought the Omega is that, sooner or later, I was going to kill myself in a car that did 0-60 in 12 seconds. I need a bit more overtaking power than that, and I can't see TB being any different in that respect. ::)
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At this rate, the Bullet may get a reprive.
There is sod all out there that tickles my fancy (for sensible money)
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At this rate, the Bullet may get a reprive.
There is sod all out there that tickles my fancy (for sensible money)
Yep. Exactly the same situation that I've been in and will be again... I'm just hoping I can keep my two (Well i'll probably keep the 3.2 forever to be honest, looking at what SD1's now fetch) running until XF's are worth sod all sit in my budget range.
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Yeah. We know.
Oh and er, welcome to the forum btw. :y. ;D
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
What? Diesel...? .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys. :(
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
What? Diesel...? .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys. :(
Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.
With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.
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How about
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-05-JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7d-V6-SE-AUTO-GREAT-HISTORY-LAST-SERVICE-55-000-/251549239124?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a9180c754
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
What? Diesel...? .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys. :(
Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.
With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.
Nope, your life is over. Goodbye. :P
YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..? ;D
Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT. ;D
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
What? Diesel...? .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys. :(
Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.
With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.
Nope, your life is over. Goodbye. :P
YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..? ;D
Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT. ;D
Given the performance of the diseasals at Le Mans over the past few years ... just WHAT is your objection to them ?? A modern diesel is/can be a very accomplished power unit. It is only the stupidity of the DPF that, IMHO, make them unusable in some applications.
Still prefer fart-gas however .. :)
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By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?
Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations? :)
One of them. Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.
What? Diesel...? .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys. :(
Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.
With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.
Nope, your life is over. Goodbye. :P
YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..? ;D
Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT. ;D
Given the performance of the diseasals at Le Mans over the past few years ... just WHAT is your objection to them ?? A modern diesel is/can be a very accomplished power unit. It is only the stupidity of the DPF that, IMHO, make them unusable in some applications.
Still prefer fart-gas however .. :)
Pipe and slippers? Massively expensive repair bills? Turbos. Lift pumps. More pumps. Other pumps. Injectors. All cost a bloody fortune to repair or replace.
CHRIST this is like re learning the bloody bible. We've been over this a squillion times.
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....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.
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....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.
So your not a diesel fan then Chris ??? :D :D
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....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.
So your not a diesel fan then Chris ??? :D :D
all things are relative H.
If no other type of car existed, even milk floats have a place.
But we're comparing an lpg'd petrol to a Diseasel. Arguably borderline on fuel costs, but not when you add in upkeep. Turbos, pumps, injectors etc etc all cost a fortune if they fail. And they will at 3-400 bar.
Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day ::)
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....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.
So your not a diesel fan then Chris ??? :D :D
all things re relative H.
If no other type of car existed, even milk floats have a place.
But we're comparing an lpg'd petrol to a Diseasel. Arguably borderline on fuel costs, but not when you add in upkeep. Turbos, pumps, injectors etc etc all cost a fortune if they fail.
Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day ::)
I agree with the downside re cost of bits,just a shame as the bigger oilers have so much grunt these days,the Signum I've just sold would eat my old v6 omega during normal driving although balls out there probably wasn't much between them other than fuel consumption :y
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Yep, :y and it's nice to see 600 miles range when its full as well. But still, even then, duel fuel still wins. Smoother, quieter, less dead weight in sound deadening and over engineering to hide the sound of 400 bar of "water hammer" banging away under the bonnet.
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Yep, :y and it's nice to see 600 miles range when its full as well. But still, even then, duel fuel still wins. Smoother, quieter, less dead weight in sound deadening and over engineering to hide the sound of 400 bar of "water hammer" banging away under the bonnet.
I presume an LPG tank isn't weightless......! For every For there's an Against and vica versa in the Derv V LPG argument.
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Subaru Legacy. Something like this (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201408066388763/sort/default/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/body-type/estate/usedcars/make/subaru/page/1/radius/1501/model/legacy/price-to/5000/postcode/dt73nb/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew?logcode=p) but LPGed. :y
A diseaseled one for TB of course. ;)
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How about
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-05-JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7d-V6-SE-AUTO-GREAT-HISTORY-LAST-SERVICE-55-000-/251549239124?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a9180c754
Not an S Type. XF maybe, but too pricey still.
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Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day ::)
Only with a detour in rushhour traffic, it generally adds about 50mins to my journey (its about 3 miles out of the way) as opposed to about 20mins at BP (mainly because they are retards and would rather stack shelves than take payment).
However, Mrs TB has no options for filling, except Morrisons that is currently about 90 mins detour in rush hour traffic (about 4 miles each way).
There is a rumour that the really expensive BP on A5 just north of MK stopping LPG as well. Are BP pulling out, or at least rejigging which ones sell LPG?
So buying a thirsty petrol, then paying for conversion, in the hope that more LPG stations will open is looking less attractive than a good diesel at the moment.
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I seriously considered one of these as an alternative to the 2014 X-trail: http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Ranger/Models-and-prices
Obviously I drove the 3.2 diesel, not the lethargic 2.2.. fantastic fun, incredibly practical with the minor problem of 20mpg ;D
.. so maybe not.
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I seriously considered one of these as an alternative to the 2014 X-trail: http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Ranger/Models-and-prices
Obviously I drove the 3.2 diesel, not the lethargic 2.2.. fantastic fun, incredibly practical with the minor problem of 20mpg ;D
.. so maybe not.
Fords are most likely out for reasons mentioned earlier... ...I'm quite prone to crashing them. Though that is particularly Escorts and Focus', mainly because they don't go where you point them.
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Knowing (by reputation) how you drive and how a friend drives his Ranger (sideways, all the time) .. you'd probably have the same problem in one of those ;D
It was a proper hoot to drive, though. Seeing as Nissan are still ducking* me around with the delivery date of the X-trail (it was meant to be mid September, it's now 31st October - my dealer hasn't told me but I know from another dealer it's due to a shortage of engines from the Ren/issan engine plant) I'm still tempted, it's even the same price per month with half the size deposit (which would get eaten by the increased fuel costs ;D)
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He'll either keep his Omega or buy a cute little Mazda MX5. :)
Pink seems to suit this car nicely. :)
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Lets be honest, anyone who can keep an Omega on the road but crash a Focus needs a few lessons in how to drive.
A Focus, even in ST form is a very easy car to keep on the black stuff. The Omega, is not.
I am with you though, I prefer a RWD when things go 'a little bit wrong'.
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Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day ::)
Only with a detour in rushhour traffic, it generally adds about 50mins to my journey (its about 3 miles out of the way) as opposed to about 20mins at BP (mainly because they are retards and would rather stack shelves than take payment).
However, Mrs TB has no options for filling, except Morrisons that is currently about 90 mins detour in rush hour traffic (about 4 miles each way).
There is a rumour that the really expensive BP on A5 just north of MK stopping LPG as well. Are BP pulling out, or at least rejigging which ones sell LPG?
So buying a thirsty petrol, then paying for conversion, in the hope that more LPG stations will open is looking less attractive than a good diesel at the moment.
Nip out at lunch time.
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Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day ::)
Only with a detour in rushhour traffic, it generally adds about 50mins to my journey (its about 3 miles out of the way) as opposed to about 20mins at BP (mainly because they are retards and would rather stack shelves than take payment).
However, Mrs TB has no options for filling, except Morrisons that is currently about 90 mins detour in rush hour traffic (about 4 miles each way).
There is a rumour that the really expensive BP on A5 just north of MK stopping LPG as well. Are BP pulling out, or at least rejigging which ones sell LPG?
So buying a thirsty petrol, then paying for conversion, in the hope that more LPG stations will open is looking less attractive than a good diesel at the moment.
Nip out at lunch time.
For both of us, that's not an option, as both of our places of work have insufficient parking.
Believe me, I've been through all options to keep a decently sized petrol engine car, but if you have to waste excessive time and mileage to fill, its viability falls right off.
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Lets be honest, anyone who can keep an Omega on the road but crash a Focus needs a few lessons in how to drive.
I disagree - not about that I need lessons, we probably all do now. The Focus is miles better than the Escort it replaced, but is still an awful handling car that simply cannot consistently be placed inch perfect on the road, whether dry, wet or slippery. And not just my Focus, all Focus'
I grew up with FWD, and certainly owned more FWD than RWD, so this isn't an anti FWD rant. Most FWD cars handle, errr, like a FWD car. Its just the Focus (and Escort) that is so rubbish... ...including the latest.
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Lets be honest, anyone who can keep an Omega on the road but crash a Focus needs a few lessons in how to drive.
I disagree - not about that I need lessons, we probably all do now. The Focus is miles better than the Escort it replaced, but is still an awful handling car that simply cannot consistently be placed inch perfect on the road, whether dry, wet or slippery. And not just my Focus, all Focus'
I grew up with FWD, and certainly owned more FWD than RWD, so this isn't an anti FWD rant. Most FWD cars handle, errr, like a FWD car. Its just the Focus (and Escort) that is so rubbish... ...including the latest.
Focus and Mondeo are generally accepted as good handling cars. Something I have found to be the case with the ones I've driven. No problems here. ...no really. Precise, holds good corner speed, feeds back well, stable.
Each to their own and all that but no idea what TB is on about with this. :-\
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So this diesel then. I'm guessing will be front wheel drive? So that will mean a manual on reliability grounds of course.
As budget will mean used, with the best and most reliable mileage already gone, an auto would be risky.
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Just has to be a cheap and cheerful Monaro then :)
Listen (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG4QtwIwDA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHsAu_syFqkY&ei=weo3VK7eOtHlaJj3guAB&usg=AFQjCNHcR0dqtXatvjrk7BXeyBjz1pqPDA&sig2=clKl1EozfYFpRSuqOuES-w&bvm=bv.76943099,d.d2s)
(http://www.smileyarena.com/emoticons/Emotions/Drool/drool01.gif)
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Just has to be a cheap and cheerful Monaro then :)
Listen (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG4QtwIwDA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHsAu_syFqkY&ei=weo3VK7eOtHlaJj3guAB&usg=AFQjCNHcR0dqtXatvjrk7BXeyBjz1pqPDA&sig2=clKl1EozfYFpRSuqOuES-w&bvm=bv.76943099,d.d2s)
(http://www.smileyarena.com/emoticons/Emotions/Drool/drool01.gif)
No such animal in my experience.
The Monaro holds it's value better than any Merc. :y
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Just has to be a cheap and cheerful Monaro then :)
Listen (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG4QtwIwDA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHsAu_syFqkY&ei=weo3VK7eOtHlaJj3guAB&usg=AFQjCNHcR0dqtXatvjrk7BXeyBjz1pqPDA&sig2=clKl1EozfYFpRSuqOuES-w&bvm=bv.76943099,d.d2s)
(http://www.smileyarena.com/emoticons/Emotions/Drool/drool01.gif)
No such animal in my experience.
The Monaro holds it's chavviness better than any Merc. :y
Fixed! :-X ;D
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So this diesel then. I'm guessing will be front wheel drive? So that will mean a manual on reliability grounds of course.
As budget will mean used, with the best and most reliable mileage already gone, an auto would be risky.
If FWD, it will always be a manual. FWD auto is just wrong.
If RWD, not overly fussed if auto or manual, though since the demise of the little Rover, I'm missing my regular manual "fix". I get to drive other members' cars, but they are somebody else's pride and joy, so you can't drive them as hard and have as much fun.
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Lets be honest, anyone who can keep an Omega on the road but crash a Focus needs a few lessons in how to drive.
I disagree - not about that I need lessons, we probably all do now. The Focus is miles better than the Escort it replaced, but is still an awful handling car that simply cannot consistently be placed inch perfect on the road, whether dry, wet or slippery. And not just my Focus, all Focus'
I grew up with FWD, and certainly owned more FWD than RWD, so this isn't an anti FWD rant. Most FWD cars handle, errr, like a FWD car. Its just the Focus (and Escort) that is so rubbish... ...including the latest.
You have driven some shitters then - The Focus is one of the best handling small hatches FULL STOP. In fact, I'm struggling to thing of another hatch which handles better..... nope, still cant think of one.
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So this diesel then. I'm guessing will be front wheel drive? So that will mean a manual on reliability grounds of course.
As budget will mean used, with the best and most reliable mileage already gone, an auto would be risky.
If FWD, it will always be a manual. FWD auto is just wrong.
If RWD, not overly fussed if auto or manual, though since the demise of the little Rover, I'm missing my regular manual "fix". I get to drive other members' cars, but they are somebody else's pride and joy, so you can't drive them as hard and have as much fun.
...and, as an after thought, no dicking about changing clutches with an auto.
Depends on the software and shift quality of that particular model though. Test drive?
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The current and previous gen Focus handle extremely well as standard. To call them poor means either the particular car was wonky or the driver has supernatural handling requirements. Requirements that normal ordinary folk don't have on normal roads in this country.
As standard, my previous gen (2009) Focus ST handled much better than the Elite or MV6 I have. But torque steer was an issue, which the Omega doesn't suffer from.
Possibly the only FWD that handles better currently, is a Golf R. Dull, but clinically precise.
More recent Phaetons fall into the £265 tax bracket. Certainly a reasonable Omega replacement candidate.
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Lets be honest, anyone who can keep an Omega on the road but crash a Focus needs a few lessons in how to drive.
I disagree - not about that I need lessons, we probably all do now. The Focus is miles better than the Escort it replaced, but is still an awful handling car that simply cannot consistently be placed inch perfect on the road, whether dry, wet or slippery. And not just my Focus, all Focus'
I grew up with FWD, and certainly owned more FWD than RWD, so this isn't an anti FWD rant. Most FWD cars handle, errr, like a FWD car. Its just the Focus (and Escort) that is so rubbish... ...including the latest.
You have driven some shitters then - The Focus is one of the best handling small hatches FULL STOP. In fact, I'm struggling to thing of another hatch which handles better..... nope, still cant think of one.
I agree,i reckon the focus is a good car full stop :y
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You have driven some shitters then - The Focus is one of the best handling small hatches FULL STOP.
I've only driven probably 20 or so, as I try to avoid them for reasons of self preservation. These vary from your bog standard base models to STs, from the original late 90s to the recent model (and that little 1l turbo is fantastic little town engine, very surprising), they all have the same characteristics (although the ST is a bit of a hoot).
The problem characteristic is unpredictability in corners when driving reasonably quickly (but less so completely flat out). It's impossible to get it inch perfect in a bend. And that's why I won't have any Focus built between 1999 and 2014.
Its a bit of a Marmite car, people I know who own or haved owned either tend to love it as the best car ever, or hate it with a passion.
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I experienced a Mk1 2 litre Ghia as a hire car some years ago. I have to say that I thought it handled superbly. :y
TB.....they must have gathered all the Focus 'lemons' together and saved them for you. ;)
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TB.....they must have gathered all the Focus 'lemons' together and saved them for you. ;)
Clearly ;D
Actually, ours (and Mrs TB's brother's) had the silly well known issue of the ECU cutting out, which all the time, Ford would not admit. That was always scary ;D
Probably about 10 of the ones I've driven any distance have all been hire cars, and we know they have a hard life... ...but then again, don't all makes and model of hire car?
As said, a Marmite car. Clearly unsuited to my driving style. Or Mrs TB's (completely the opposite), or her brother's, or her bro's ex, or some of my colleages. Yet loved by some friends of ours (and their's handles exactly the same), and by some colleagues at work (or which 2 I've driven, and handle the same). I guess if you don't notice its deffiencies, its a OK car (even a good car with some of the modern engines). I can't feel safe in one.
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So what you're getting at is that you need a £500 rwd exec, and sod the fuel costs...
Didn't Vauxhall make summat like that once... ::)
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So what you're getting at is that you need a £500 rwd exec, and sod the fuel costs...
Didn't Vauxhall make summat like that once... ::)
Forgetting the price for a moment, as budget is variable (within reason), but what do Vauxhall offer now?
All Omegas are now getting a bit too old, with very, very few good ones available in UK that aren't a mess underneath. And as tunnie has come to his senses, his isn't available, and there are no others I've seen as clean underneath as that one...
At these rate, I can see me sorting out the ever growing list of faults with the Bullet, and keeping that.
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Here do...
One of theses (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201410017859484/sort/atcustom/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/make/ford/page/1/usedcars/model/sierra/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/rh202dg?logcode=p)
Or...
One of theses... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-COSWORTH-2-9v-1993-Classic-for-restoration-/331318805044?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d2423c234)
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So what you're getting at is that you need a £500 rwd exec, and sod the fuel costs...
Didn't Vauxhall make summat like that once... ::)
Forgetting the price for a moment, as budget is variable (within reason), but what do Vauxhall offer now?
All Omegas are now getting a bit too old, with very, very few good ones available in UK that aren't a mess underneath. And as tunnie has come to his senses, his isn't available, and there are no others I've seen as clean underneath as that one...
At these rate, I can see me sorting out the ever growing list of faults with the Bullet, and keeping that.
Have to agree to disagree wrt Papa T ::)
Realistically though, the Bullets issues will predominantly be sorted by upgrading the brakes, and dropping a fresh(er) engine in... :y
Still cannot fathom why you haven't fitted vented rears to it :-\
Actually talking of T, there's an engine begging to be dropped straight in...
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Here do...
One of theses (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201410017859484/sort/atcustom/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/make/ford/page/1/usedcars/model/sierra/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/rh202dg?logcode=p)
Or...
One of theses... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-COSWORTH-2-9v-1993-Classic-for-restoration-/331318805044?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d2423c234)
Neither. The Sierra could only be liked by a true Ford fan. It was shite at the time, and I can only imagine what its like now ;D. Ultimately, both are going to disappear in the wind now, given their age, and Ford's anticorrosion methods at the time.
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Here do...
One of theses (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201410017859484/sort/atcustom/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/make/ford/page/1/usedcars/model/sierra/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/rh202dg?logcode=p)
Or...
One of theses... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-COSWORTH-2-9v-1993-Classic-for-restoration-/331318805044?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d2423c234)
Neither. The Sierra could only be liked by a true Ford fan. It was shite at the time, and I can only imagine what its like now ;D. Ultimately, both are going to disappear in the wind now, given their age, and Ford's anticorrosion methods at the time.
I figured a change would be as good as a rest... fit the management from the RS2000 and that Sierra would be quite entertaining... :y
At least I didn't suggest the boss eyed monster ;D
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So what you're getting at is that you need a £500 rwd exec, and sod the fuel costs...
Didn't Vauxhall make summat like that once... ::)
Forgetting the price for a moment, as budget is variable (within reason), but what do Vauxhall offer now?
All Omegas are now getting a bit too old, with very, very few good ones available in UK that aren't a mess underneath. And as tunnie has come to his senses, his isn't available, and there are no others I've seen as clean underneath as that one...
At these rate, I can see me sorting out the ever growing list of faults with the Bullet, and keeping that.
Have to agree to disagree wrt Papa T ::)
Realistically though, the Bullets issues will predominantly be sorted by upgrading the brakes, and dropping a fresh(er) engine in... :y
Still cannot fathom why you haven't fitted vented rears to it :-\
Actually talking of T, there's an engine begging to be dropped straight in...
The Bullet needs fixing and TLC, not upgrading. The engine is strong, if a tad incontinent, and the brakes every bit as good as TBE's.
More cooling capacity in the rears is not a requirement. It simply doesn't need them, even with judicious use of TC...
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Given that the mahoosive oil leak has yet to be located, swapping the motor for a known good one with good maintenance history is a fix, even if it seems like cheating :y
As for the brakes, if they are upto the grade, why do they keep melting :-\
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Given that the mahoosive oil leak has yet to be located, swapping the motor for a known good one with good maintenance history is a fix, even if it seems like cheating :y
As for the brakes, if they are upto the grade, why do they keep melting :-\
I have a sticky caliper. I have a replacement caliper for said sticky one, but can't get the brake pipe undone.
But the biggie is rust. It has "some" ::)
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Given that the mahoosive oil leak has yet to be located, swapping the motor for a known good one with good maintenance history is a fix, even if it seems like cheating :y
As for the brakes, if they are upto the grade, why do they keep melting :-\
I have a sticky caliper. I have a replacement caliper for said sticky one, but can't get the brake pipe undone.
But the biggie is rust. It has "some" ::)
"They all do that sir"
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Given what the rusty bullet means to you....And the obvious problem of replacing a car, that was obviously the correct car for you (and us etc) at the time. I'd suggest its worth spending a good few quid to keep it going.
This is why I don't understand the "more than the car is worth" mentality we see on here sometimes. If that's an owners outlook they don't have an ounce of passion for a car. Or probably any car.
While I appreciate time us an issue, spend the money keeping the car you want. Take it off the road. Fix everything. Upgrade everything. There are big brake options. Big engine options obviously ;). Get the car you want for less money than a newer car you don't want.
:)
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Good point well presented :y
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....and obviously and body work repair is doable. Re spray it. Properly. Then it really will be a Silver bullet. Proper job. :y
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Here do...
One of theses (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201410017859484/sort/atcustom/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/make/ford/page/1/usedcars/model/sierra/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/rh202dg?logcode=p)
Or...
One of theses... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-COSWORTH-2-9v-1993-Classic-for-restoration-/331318805044?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d2423c234)
Never had the |Cosworth granny bur several 2.9's same guise , i presume the Cosie just went faster into a ditch ;D
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Given what the rusty bullet means to you....And the obvious problem of replacing a car, that was obviously the correct car for you (and us etc) at the time. I'd suggest its worth spending a good few quid to keep it going.
This is why I don't understand the "more than the car is worth" mentality we see on here sometimes. If that's an owners outlook they don't have an ounce of passion for a car. Or probably any car.
While I appreciate time us an issue, spend the money keeping the car you want. Take it off the road. Fix everything. Upgrade everything. There are big brake options. Big engine options obviously ;). Get the car you want for less money than a newer car you don't want.
:)
I agree wholeheartedly, except I think it may be too much work this time. After the engine saga, I had a belligerent desire to get the girl through to 200k, which she's done with ease.
Anything is ultimately fixable, but cost does bring a certain viability, no matter how much I think its one of/the best Omega I've ever driven. Cost doesn't represent its value - I bought 2 new tyres last week (I really much get around to fitting them to the car :-[), which is more than the car is "worth".
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Of course, it's worth 9/5ths of opps all to anyone.
...except you. (For some daft reason ;D ;) )
This is the process I use. But BEFORE I buy the car. Not after. That being, search out a car that's suitable. Then, and this is the bit we're doing too late, see if there's anything out there that's better than the car you chose. THEN buy the car.
The problem then is, obviously, come replacememt your buggered unless something better comes up. Which as we all know, it hasn't in your/out ownership.
....anyway, your is a non answer. You know what to do. Might involve paying someone to do the work but imagine the result. Body stripped and repainted. Ls V8/or a straight 6 or whatever, even a big Diseasel. 360mm discs with 6pot brembo calipers. Full ohlins suspension. Completely refurb the interior and seats. New screen. Blah blah. Jobs a goodun.
You have your perfect car of your choice. Then if you do replace it, the bits are worth something.
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Last I heard there was a working leak free 3.0 in Brackers, only needing a loom to work ::)
All the lpg related gubbins will swap straight over. Bish bash bosh, that's the mechanicals done in a day.
Over to Josh's bodywork wizard and that's the Bullet set for a few more years :y
I wanted to see mine past 500k, but that's unlikely to happen in this decade ::)