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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 04 October 2014, 20:21:26
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Any experts?
Mine is 13yr old, and in some areas where sofa feet where, its flattened. Was looking to just cut out the sq metres that need doing. But I can't find mine anywhere on tinterweb.
The markings on mine read some combination of NOBILITY GOLD RIBBON.
Or do I need to replace the lot?
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Any experts?
Mine is 13yr old, and in some areas where sofa feet where, its flattened. Was looking to just cut out the sq metres that need doing. But I can't find mine anywhere on tinterweb.
The markings on mine read some combination of NOBILITY GOLD RIBBON.
Or do I need to replace the lot?
Underlay, at least the rubber variety of 13 years ago, does degrade and fall to bits. I would recommend TB the new eco underlay that is made from recycled material. When I re-carpeted my home last year I used that, choosing the best grade as it was then on offer at the same price as the lower grade stuff. I have been most satisfied with it :y :y
As said the old rubber underlay does degrade so I suspect all of yours needs to be replaced if 13 years old, and damaged. ;)
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The rest is in perfect condition, unlike most of the recycled/composite ones I saw when I used to have to lift the edges of carpets for a living.
Its obviously 13yrs of a 3 seater sofa that's flattened it a bit where the furniture legs are
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It might be ok now. But it's got to last the life of the new carpet as well.
Replace the lot imo. (Tight arse :P ;D ) it's not expensive. Plus you have concrete floors.
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Also, it's worth getting cups for the castor feet. Although it depends on the castors shape of course. But your sound like they are causing damage.
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TBs new carpet?
(http://carpetbargains.com/images/movie_room1-lge.jpg)
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It might be ok now. But it's got to last the life of the new carpet as well.
Replace the lot imo. (Tight arse :P ;D ) it's not expensive. Plus you have concrete floors.
Really...the carpet shop tried selling us underlay and I asked for a middle of the road type and that was £12.99 a sq meter @ 40 sq meters £520 ish.
Luckily I work on a Building site so steal borrow buy at reduced costs...Had a word with the lad at work and he is laying 40 sq meters of carpet (already bought) and supply underlay and grippers £200 for cash. 8)
Gotta say I do love my job. :y
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Also, it's worth getting cups for the castor feet. Although it depends on the castors shape of course. But your sound like they are causing damage.
Not casters, they are feet. Never managed to find a suitable cup, though doubt they'd be much better, given the feet shape on the sofa. Which is probably why we can't find cups that fit ;D
When we bought the underlay at the time, the indie fitter gave us choices, and I know this was the most expensive. Worth paying the extra IMHO. It is in as new condition, bar the 5 flattened bits under the larger of my sofas, and under "my" chair that has tolerated 14.5 stone for the last 13 years. I'm certainly not replacing the underlay in the rest of the house - even stairs etc, the underlay is untouched. I honestly believe this 13yr old would outlive the shite like Duralay Deluxe that shitfix sell.
To make matters more awkward, it has to be from a local supplier that will be open tomorrow or Monday. Carpets go in on Tues.
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Also, it's worth getting cups for the castor feet. Although it depends on the castors shape of course. But your sound like they are causing damage.
Not casters, they are feet. Never managed to find a suitable cup, though doubt they'd be much better, given the feet shape on the sofa. Which is probably why we can't find cups that fit ;D
When we bought the underlay at the time, the indie fitter gave us choices, and I know this was the most expensive. Worth paying the extra IMHO. It is in as new condition, bar the 5 flattened bits under the larger of my sofas, and under "my" chair that has tolerated 14.5 stone for the last 13 years. I'm certainly not replacing the underlay in the rest of the house - even stairs etc, the underlay is untouched. I honestly believe this 13yr old would outlive the shite like Duralay Deluxe that shitfix sell.
To make matters more awkward, it has to be from a local supplier that will be open tomorrow or Monday. Carpets go in on Tues.
Just do that room then. :)
Poor project management though. As i guess you're stuck with what's available.
Failing that cut out the square that's under the chairs, cut it into 4 and put the worn bit in the middle. Who's to know unless you move the chairs.
.... Although looking at it that way, who's to know anyway.
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It might be ok now. But it's got to last the life of the new carpet as well.
Replace the lot imo. (Tight arse :P ;D ) it's not expensive. Plus you have concrete floors.
Really...the carpet shop tried selling us underlay and I asked for a middle of the road type and that was £12.99 a sq meter @ 40 sq meters £520 ish.
Luckily I work on a Building site so steal borrow buy at reduced costs...Had a word with the lad at work and he is laying 40 sq meters of carpet (already bought) and supply underlay and grippers £200 for cash. 8)
Gotta say I do love my job. :y
....as said its not expensive. ;)
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Just do that room then. :)
Poor project management though. As i guess you're stuck with what's available.
It'd have to be dining room and lounge, as one bit of carpet. Guessing 40m2 without getting tape measure out. I guess good underlay is going to be £25, so about a grand.
Time has been against us.
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I'm a bit confuzzled. If you have concrete floors, the only real reason for the underlay is to provide thermal insulation.
Why replace the underlay if it's in good nick, with the exception of a few places where furniture has been for 13 years? Furthermore, why replace it if the furniture will remain in the same place and make impressions on the new underlay?
Has one missed something? :-\
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+1. :y
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I'm a bit confuzzled. If you have concrete floors, the only real reason for the underlay is to provide thermal insulation.
Why replace the underlay if it's in good nick, with the exception of a few places where furniture has been for 13 years? Furthermore, why replace it if the furniture will remain in the same place and make impressions on the new underlay?
Has one missed something? :-\
Simple mate...its how people with too much money think. ;D
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Or he is rearranging the furniture ;)
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I'm a bit confuzzled. If you have concrete floors, the only real reason for the underlay is to provide thermal insulation.
Why replace the underlay if it's in good nick, with the exception of a few places where furniture has been for 13 years? Furthermore, why replace it if the furniture will remain in the same place and make impressions on the new underlay?
Has one missed something? :-\
I was under the impression (misapprehension?) that underlay helps protect the carpet - with the underlay providing the absorbtion of weight, rather than the pile? This helps prolong the longevity of the carpet?
The downstairs floors are block and beam, with a thin concreate layer on top.
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I came across this stuff locally and did the whole house in it , It feels lovely underfoot just like in posh hotels.
http://www.lcw-underlay.com/
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Get a life.
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I came across this stuff locally and did the whole house in it , It feels lovely underfoot just like in posh hotels.
http://www.lcw-underlay.com/
Cheers. Sadly, it has to be something we can get locally. Waiting for the fitters to call back (blimey, open on a Sunday :o) to quote for the underlay as well.
Gonna just change it all (those rooms that are having new carpets). As chrisgixer says, bit tight not to. On further inspection, places like the bottom of stairs in hallway, the underlay, although looks good and unworn, definitely has less springiness to it than the edges right by the grippers.
Just hope the new stuff wears as well.
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Get a life.
I know. See what my life has turned into following the excitement of watching the garage launch :'(
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Underlay does help to protect the carpet and good underlay is a must.
About the best is cloud 9 underlay which comes in at around £4 per square meter when you buy a full roll of the best 10mm stuff......and it really is very very good.
beware of carpet shops as they often sell standard (piss poor), good (quite poor) and gold or premium (poor) at stupidly inflated prices.
Given how east it is to put down, I would always advise buying a roll of cloud 9 and laying it yourself before they arrive or tell then you already have it and ask for a quote for install only.
http://www.tradepriced.co.uk/cloud_9_carpet_underlay.html
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Weve got cloud 9, its very springy and comfy :y
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A bit of research showed Cloud 9 Cumulus or Tradaire Dreamwalk, both 11mm. As out fitters could supply and fit at around £5 m2, and I'd not had the time to get it and lay it, they are doing that. For the sake of £50 or so...
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Just be aware .. when we had 11mm underlay fitted and then a new carpet on top, doors needed trimming.. and they charged £10 a door .. cheeky sods ... used a fancy cutting machine that did them without taking them off .. about 2 minutes a door !!
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Weve got cloud 9, its very springy and comfy :y
And if you use the 11mm you get a nice ridge in front of your gripper rods
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Arrived home, job jobbed :)
Need to start getting furniture in. Job for weekend methinks :)
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Good news. :y
Dare I say.... An end in sight perhaps?
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All of this sounds a bit posh for a garage. :-\
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All of this sounds a bit posh for a garage. :-\
Silly arse ;D
Does sound like progress though :y