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Title: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 June 2008, 17:04:43
Started on my own today... Tank in situ, all boot holes drilled and tank secured.

Valve fitted.

Pipe runs complete for filler and engine bay.

Due to the tank valve position I can't avoid a kink in the pipe. I'm really worried about it, so Jeremy is looking at options for an elbow. PITA though because I wanted to finish it off today.

Also, vaporisor isn't coming until at least Wednesday  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Entwood on 23 June 2008, 17:11:04
You've done a great deal of the work in one go .. something to be proud of .. and it'll all be ready for the final bits as soon as they arrive.

Nice one ..   :y :y :y
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Dazzler on 23 June 2008, 17:11:34
Glad you have got hold of him James, im still waiting for the tank fitting kit and of course the vaporiser >:(

Glad to see its coming along nicely tho ;)
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Jay w on 23 June 2008, 17:13:15
can't see the pics, will catch up with those later.

Just spoken to Jeremy, he was cussing blind about the Vaporiser issue
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: psychnurse on 23 June 2008, 17:14:18
Good to be getting it underway mate  :y Im sure you will have it done soon enough.  :y Any pics?  ;)
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 23 June 2008, 18:31:42
SOunds good - one advantage of copper pipe - you can do tight bends
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 June 2008, 18:50:41
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SOunds good - one advantage of copper pipe - you can do tight bends

You also don't need a great long adaptor on the end of it - it connects directly to the multivalve union.

Kevin
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 June 2008, 20:17:08
I spoke to Jeremy today and confirmed the details for my kit! Collecting it on my way home from my holiday on July 18th... Hopefully have it all fitted by start of August! But realistically aiming for middle to end!
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 June 2008, 23:27:57
I'm realistically aiming for Wednesday afternoon ;D

Did a few more jobs after my last post.

Today, single handedly I've done:

1) Multivalve fitted in gas tank, then remove petrol tank
2) Mounted gas tank
3) Pipe runs for both filler, and engine bay
4) Run the cable for rear solenoid + level sender from back to the front, then refit petrol tank
5) Removed throttle body, inlet manifold etc
6) Drilled the manifold, tapped the threads, fitted the injector nozzles and vacc nozzle (tidy job too)
7) Assembled the injector block by fitting their nozzles and swapping the feed to the other end.
8) Fabricated a bracket to mount the injector block on top of the camcover (again, quite a tidy job with my lack of metalwork skills!)
9) Cut correct (and equal) lengths of pipe between injector block and manifold nozzles

Fuel tank is half full of petrol so was a right pain to mount on my own but I got there.

I would have got the inlet all back together, but I bu66ered the gasket on removal, so I need a new one tomorrow.

Jobs for tomorrow are,

1) sort coolant pipework out for evaporator so it's there in place
2) make a bracket and mount the gas ECU
3) fit the gas wiring loom and make as many connections as possible, incl the injector splice loom. (I'm going to be a chicken and use the piggy connectors provided, even though they're a bit less tidy.
4) If the cutter arrives from Mr Sassanach, cut a 70mm hole in my rear quarter panel  ::) and mount the filling point.
5) route cables inside the car for switch and level gauge
6) General tidy up of the install

Wednesday - mount vaporisor, put some gas in. Test for leaks, and try her on gas. Then it's just fuel mapping..
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Entwood on 23 June 2008, 23:47:35
Good effort  :y :y :y :y  

6 man-days work done in 3 ???  you must will be knackered !!
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 June 2008, 23:56:11
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Good effort  :y :y :y :y  

6 man-days work done in 3 ???  you must will be knackered !!

Currently sat with a Cobra - and a Bulmers pear cider calling my name perhaps afterwards ::)

When it's done, I'll pop over your way and show you. I get to see the pro install then, too :y
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: stuart30 on 24 June 2008, 00:30:02
Sorry too jump into your thread with questions james.

Just curious whilst your capable of fitting your own LPG kit...how much time would you expect an install too take assuming all parts/tools were available from the start by a competant run of the mill mechanic with no experience of fitting LPG.

No intention of having mine done due to cost and the fact ive a funnily feeling my car maybe a lemon...although i may well with the next Omega.

Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Jay w on 24 June 2008, 08:14:55
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Sorry too jump into your thread with questions james.

Just curious whilst your capable of fitting your own LPG kit...how much time would you expect an install too take assuming all parts/tools were available from the start by a competant run of the mill mechanic with no experience of fitting LPG.

No intention of having mine done due to cost and the fact ive a funnily feeling my car maybe a lemon...although i may well with the next Omega.


Personally i would buget on 5/6 evenings in order to be about to complete an LPG setup - or 3/4 days if you have that option.

There is nothing really major about doing a conversion aside from the inlet manifold, that needs to be removed. drilled tapped and refitted.

On the whole i would say fitting LPG is an excersize in fittong a series of parts from a kit, however the OPmega and its nice tight engine bay sometimes make that the challenge  :y

Specialised tools consist of a hole cutter, soldeting iron, a tap and die set, everything else will be a mix of torx sockets, 19,17,15,13,10,mm spanners and the obligatory big hammer  :y
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 June 2008, 09:16:33
How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 24 June 2008, 09:47:42
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How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well

Exactly the same route as the petrol lines :y
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 June 2008, 10:59:43
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How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well

Exactly the same route as the petrol lines :y


I didn't fancy that and took mine through the passenger compartment
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Jay w on 24 June 2008, 11:03:24
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How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well

Exactly the same route as the petrol lines :y


I didn't fancy that and took mine through the passenger compartment

I did mine via the petrol lines as well  :y
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 June 2008, 11:08:20
Well putting the lines through the compartment took me about 3 hours so I suppose going under is quicker
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 24 June 2008, 14:09:26
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How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well

Exactly the same route as the petrol lines :y


I didn't fancy that and took mine through the passenger compartment

Wouldn't that be too close to the exhaust?  ::)
Title: Re: Todays LPG progress (or lack of)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 June 2008, 15:31:15
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How do you route the cables James?

And a professional took 7 days and it didn't run that well

Exactly the same route as the petrol lines :y


I didn't fancy that and took mine through the passenger compartment

Wouldn't that be too close to the exhaust?  ::)


No

it goes from ECU, through the rubber grommet into the cabin, through the wire route by the doors. then under the rear seat and then carpet and through into a pipe cover and sealed in