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Title: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2014, 20:58:06
Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 October 2014, 21:06:57
When I used to have a house with a garage....  :( I just got some second hand fluorescent tubes and holders, obviously more modern fittings with LED's are probably the way to go now.

Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2014, 21:10:13
When I used to have a house with a garage....  :( I just got some second hand fluorescent tubes and holders, obviously more modern fittings with LED's are probably the way to go now.
Freebies not available this time :(
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 October 2014, 21:14:17
I've heard Mummy and Daddy Tunnie have some nice lights in their garage.....

Just saying like   ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 October 2014, 21:16:58
Explosion proof fittings may be worth thinking about.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2014, 21:17:41
I've heard Mummy and Daddy Tunnie have some nice lights in their garage.....

Just saying like   ;D
Hmmm, I susect I could get in there as well  :-X
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: aaronjb on 06 October 2014, 21:24:47
I have these in the workshop - they are a million times better than the cheaper ones I have in the garage:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GLSW235HF.html
With the LAFLT35DL tubes (865 - Daylight)
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 October 2014, 01:23:55
Gas lamp?  :)
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Keith ABS on 07 October 2014, 07:52:15
Check out toolstation. They seem to be offering some better prices than screwfix at the moment
Keith B
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 October 2014, 08:20:46
As per my recommendation to Tunnie, I use this supplier for light fittings:

http://www.alertelectrical.com/prodvar/4112/weatherproof-hf-fluorescent-1-x-36w

The key thing to get is a HF fitting as the tubes last longer and there is no wanky starter to worry about.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: brendan1983 on 07 October 2014, 08:50:36
I've used these in my garage... instant on, no flickering  :)

http://www.alertelectrical.com/prodvar/4/eterna-58w-5ft-fluorescent-with-diffuser (http://www.alertelectrical.com/prodvar/4/eterna-58w-5ft-fluorescent-with-diffuser)
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 07 October 2014, 19:15:57
Now if my bloody sparky brother would pick up the bastid phone  >:(  ;D

I'm guessing for garage, it doesn't have to be weatherproof. Any advantages to using non weatherproof - less to get dirty/aged etc?
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: aaronjb on 07 October 2014, 20:39:19
The main reason I used the IP65 ones is that they're sturdier - so if I clout it accidentally with something I won't get covered in bits of falling glass dagger.. quite apart from the fact that the glass alone can end up a long way embedded into you, google images "fluorescent tube injuries" if you want to see why it's bad juju.. as long as you have a strong stomach, anyway!
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 October 2014, 10:01:32
The main reason I used the IP65 ones is that they're sturdier - so if I clout it accidentally with something I won't get covered in bits of falling glass dagger.. quite apart from the fact that the glass alone can end up a long way embedded into you, google images "fluorescent tube injuries" if you want to see why it's bad juju.. as long as you have a strong stomach, anyway!
Fortunately I had digested my breakfast ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: aaronjb on 08 October 2014, 10:30:03
Fortunately mercury injuries like that are (I believe) pretty rare - certainly I know plenty of people who've cleaned up smashed tubes without having half their hand dissolve.. but I have seen a picture of a friend of mine with a chunk of tube sticking out of his arm after someone knocked it while he was standing under it  :o
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 18 October 2014, 21:17:07
Any recommendations?
Don't buy the ones Mark got, the build quality was pants even on a good day.

Now if my bloody sparky brother would pick up the bastid phone  >:(  ;D
You don't need one if you are changing like for like

I'm guessing for garage, it doesn't have to be weatherproof. Any advantages to using non weatherproof - less to get dirty/aged etc?
Non IP is cheaper, but flimsier.
If it's just hanging in the garage, it won't make any odds.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 20 October 2014, 02:00:50
Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways  ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 October 2014, 02:07:18
Quite right too... ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 October 2014, 11:20:12
Ah the old penny wise pound foolish approach. He'll make a "good" manager. ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Gaffers on 20 October 2014, 11:24:26
Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways  ;D

Which reminds me, once you are up and about I may have a little work to throw your way.  I am fitting the brewery in to the shed and I don't want to keep running an extension cable out to it :y
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 October 2014, 12:18:58
I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 October 2014, 13:26:53
I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark. ;D


Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: aaronjb on 20 October 2014, 15:50:46
I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark. ;D


Regards

Mark

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 20 October 2014, 18:55:49
I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.
Mark as in Tunnie mate, not you.

When I finally did get the diffuser to let go and removed the tube, you could see it was clearly cheap crap.
Nothing in place to stop the tube conductors from dropping and resting against the diffuser when it was up on the ceiling, wafer thin diffusers cracking because you had to exert excessive force to release them from the fitting to start with, yada, yada.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 20 October 2014, 18:59:16
Which reminds me, once you are up and about I may have a little work to throw your way.  I am fitting the brewery in to the shed and I don't want to keep running an extension cable out to it :y
More than happy mate but you'll have to do the actual work to install as my strength/stamina is somewhat limited, but I am still strong enough to operate a meter and sign a bit of paper for you to get it legal and above board.


I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark. ;D


Regards

Mark
Just noticed that......superb  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2014, 19:28:25
Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways  ;D
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 October 2014, 19:42:14
Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways  ;D
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

Yep. Mark said. ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 20 October 2014, 20:12:07
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?
From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions  ::) 
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: The Sheriff on 20 October 2014, 20:15:55
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?
From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions  ::)
Cheap Chinese copies of cheap Chinese lights.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2014, 20:44:17
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?
From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions  ::)
And I thought you were clever ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 21 October 2014, 08:43:25
So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?
From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions  ::)
And I thought you were clever ;D

I should have sensed how tight he was when he was stalling on making the initial obligatory cuppa when I first arrived ;D ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 October 2014, 09:29:20
As your on at the moment AndyRoid.

I have to install 2 off 3 phase distribution boards (one off 12 way and one off 6 way), any specific makes to go for and any to avoid (these are a little low voltage and current to what I am used to working with so I have little experience of the good n bad out there).

Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 21 October 2014, 15:31:42
Hager or Schneider Electric are two names that immediately spring to mind Mark
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 October 2014, 16:52:32
Hager or Schneider Electric are two names that immediately spring to mind Mark

That's good thanks, Schneider were who I was erring towards given I have used their 'larger' products.  :y
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 21 October 2014, 17:06:12
No problem, just don't let Tunnie fulfil the purchase order  ;)
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: Shackeng on 21 October 2014, 18:15:27
As you are fitting new, have you considered T8 LED's?
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2014, 21:36:31
As you are fitting new, have you considered T8 LED's?
I've changed most of the bulbs in the house to LED now, bar the lounge and dining room (can't find a suitable LED - shame, as these 2 rooms are the ones we use the most, and the lights take about 90s to come up to brightness).

Not yet brave enough to try LED "tubes", so will stick to traditional for now.
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 October 2014, 22:00:44
What about...

.... something like this?

(http://housetohome.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/96/00001091e/baf5_orh550w550/1-White-Candelabra-from-Rockett-St-George--country--Country-Homes--Interiors.jpg)
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 October 2014, 22:01:41
Noooo, much too flammable.  :-X
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: AndyRoid on 21 October 2014, 22:13:47
Noooo, much too flammable.  :-X
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 October 2014, 22:17:24
Noooo, much too flammable.  :-X
;D ;D ;D
I think they'd give the place a certain charm, a sort of Downton Abbey in Brackley
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2014, 18:58:58
Noooo, much too flammable.  :-X
;D ;D ;D
I think they'd give the place a certain charm, a sort of Downton Abbey in Brackley
Isn't that set around here? Or is that one of the other pointless, crap BBC dramas?
Title: Re: Light fittings for garage
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2014, 19:01:35
Fittings arrived. Lacking the enthusiasm to open the box to see what they are like...

Went for 4 x 5' in the end. That should stop me fumbling in the dark.

Little bro coming up to assist* fitting at weekend :D


* thin excuse for some brotherly arsing about, plus he can do a cert for them...