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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: linfordland on 08 October 2014, 09:10:22
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Hi, im new to the site amd a few members have suggested i post here.
Im thinking of lowering my omega so any advice or tips or anybody selling some lowering springs please feel free to comment.
Thanks, Craig.
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Saloon or estate? Have a set of Irmscher estate springs/shocks for sale.
Ad is in the parts for sale, possibly on the second page...
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If a saloon on UK roads, don't lower beyond 30mm (Front) and 20mm (Rear).
Obviously, it'll need a full geometry adjustment after.
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Its saloon, all the kits ive seen are 40 mm drop but ive seen some vehicles at shows im sure don't have springs at all! Haha
Thanks, Craig.
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There are some 30mm kits available. Just add a 10mm rubber or poly pad to the existing ones that insulate the springs from the chassis top and bottom at the rear.
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There are some 30mm kits available. Just add a 10mm rubber or poly pad to the existing ones that insulate the springs from the chassis top and bottom at the rear.
Is something similar available for the front Chris ?
My front end is MV6 but the springs are getting soft.
I'm looking for a couple of slightly lowered springs (from standard) but don't want it down as far as 30mm now that i've sorted the back out to my liking :)
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Haven't looked into adjusting / raising front ride height, but I suppose something could be fitted between 4 and 2 in the diag.
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-11--7-6-6-front-shock-absorbers-r1000001/
I'll have a look a shock next time I'm in the garage. :y
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Haven't looked into adjusting / raising front ride height, but I suppose something could be fitted between 4 and 2 in the diag.
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-11--7-6-6-front-shock-absorbers-r1000001/
I'll have a look a shock next time I'm in the garage. :y
Cheers Chris :)
With the extra weight of the lpg tank over the rear axel, those heavy duty spring I fitted at the rear work a treat.
Now they have settled, it sits nice and flat with load in the back so I don't want to screw up the stance when I sort the front out.
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Haven't looked into adjusting / raising front ride height, but I suppose something could be fitted between 4 and 2 in the diag.
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-11--7-6-6-front-shock-absorbers-r1000001/
I'll have a look a shock next time I'm in the garage. :y
The only thing that would work is a collar of the desired thickness to sit between the bearing and upper spring cup...
Give an old bearing to a machine shop who should be able to spin summat suitable with a flange to seat the inside diameter of the bearing in order to locate it securely :y
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Haven't looked into adjusting / raising front ride height, but I suppose something could be fitted between 4 and 2 in the diag.
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-11--7-6-6-front-shock-absorbers-r1000001/
I'll have a look a shock next time I'm in the garage. :y
The only thing that would work is a collar of the desired thickness to sit between the bearing and upper spring cup...
Give an old bearing to a machine shop who should be able to spin summat suitable with a flange to seat the inside diameter of the bearing in order to locate it securely :y
Would it be possible to pack out the bottom cup that the front spring sits in with 10 - 15mm of this rubber hence raising the ride height to around the same as a standard MV6 spring and leaving the top of the strut standard :-\
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The bottm cup is shaped to help hold the spring in the correct orientation. So the bottom pad is cup shaped on its lower surface, and spring shaped on its top surface. It's far from flat, so whatever goes under there will be far from straightforward to get the spring to sit correctly.
You need a flat surface, that won't rotate with the steering and cause noise or sit unevenly if it moves altering ride height and hence set up and camber, and then buggering the tyres.
....it would also be remis not to mention the most sensible thing to do is fit new correct springs, but them I'm sure you know all that, and the issues with set up costs.
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Haven't looked into adjusting / raising front ride height, but I suppose something could be fitted between 4 and 2 in the diag.
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-11--7-6-6-front-shock-absorbers-r1000001/
I'll have a look a shock next time I'm in the garage. :y
The only thing that would work is a collar of the desired thickness to sit between the bearing and upper spring cup...
Give an old bearing to a machine shop who should be able to spin summat suitable with a flange to seat the inside diameter of the bearing in order to locate it securely :y
Not keen on that idea as the bearing will be worn and pitted by now and could stick more than any friction with a colar or similar. The danger is the bearing "could" stick and the collar "could" slide. Giving wear and noise, the bearing is covered in plastic. Which "could" be destroyed "if" the bearing sticks. ....if. :-\
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The bottm cup is shaped to help hold the spring in the correct orientation. So the bottom pad is cup shaped on its lower surface, and spring shaped on its top surface. It's far from flat, so whatever goes under there will be far from straightforward to get the spring to sit correctly.
You need a flat surface, that won't rotate with the steering and cause noise or sit unevenly if it moves altering ride height and hence set up and camber, and then buggering the tyres.
....it would also be remis not to mention the most sensible thing to do is fit new correct springs, but them I'm sure you know all that, and the issues with set up costs.
I thought Mv6 spring was stupidly expensive and like the preverbal rocking horse poo :-\
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Don't know if you know this but the front & rear springs from the Monaro will fit the Omega B saloon. They're a little stiffer and lower it 25.4mm all around. I've got them on my Catera and love 'em.
Everything I've found for the Catera (suspension related) can be found below. The vendors are primarily in the USA but I'm sure you you can find the same or equivalent on your side of the big water.
http://cateraowners.forumotion.com/t108-catera-suspension-upgrades-overview
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Good tip Elvin. :y
A more sensible ride height too.
When comparing to omega, do we know what spec Catera springs are, compared to omega uk models, such as elite (soft) standard (medium) mv6 (harde/harder) etc...?
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The '97-'99 Catera was sprung softly compared to the '00 facelift model. Whether it was equivilent to the Elite or Standard I can't say. In '99 cadillac introduced the Catera Sport to the line-up. Damped firmer and sprung stiffer it was still not to MV6 specs. That set-up became the standard '00-'01 Catera suspension tune. The '00-'01 Catera Sport finally received the full boat MV6 suspension package.
I can't believe old cheapskate GM would pony-up for new springs unique to the Catera so if I was to guess I would say the '97-'99 Catera used the Elite tune. The '99 Catera Sport and '00-'01 Catera shared the standard Omega tune. The '00-'01 Catera Sport used the MV6 suspension. My '01 Catera Sport uses '04 Pontiac GTO springs front and rear. I can tell they are stiffer but not by a whole lot.
My Sport is also equipped with Koni Sport dampers front & rear (the fronts set to mid-firm, the rears set full firm), so to be fair my judgement with regards to ride quality might be skewed. Still, the ride isn't what I'd call harsh.