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Title: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 17:33:33
Ok not sure whats happened here, but key will not open Drivers Door, no movement, nothing.  Was working fine untill today, was last in there on Friday no issues.

Cars parked up, so Ive diss'ed the battery + terminal, where its parked up close against a corner, cant really get underneath to whack some volts on the Starter motor etc, I suppose worst case I could drag / tow the car away a bit but starts to get messy.

Key wont work on the Tailgate, never has, tried the usual wd40 etc, no joy.

Any easy way of getting in an Estate (I can do saloons easy enough) without wrecking a window as I cant remember if I dead locked it with the key , obviously if it involves trickery please PM me rather than post up.

Ta Chris..
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 October 2014, 17:49:15
Sounds like someone has tried to force it :-\ they freewheel if the wrong keys are used...

As for tother, answer your phone :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 18:04:22
Ah, phone, yea left it outside in another car, will go and get it now.  ;)
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: The Red Baron on 12 October 2014, 18:11:03
does it have a towbar with twin electrics, you can back feed it through the fridge feed. hey presto. done before myself.  :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 18:22:02
does it have a towbar with twin electrics, you can back feed it through the fridge feed. hey presto. done before myself.  :y
Yes it does, cheers  :y , that was also one of Al's (of many) ideas, just  having a cupa, and a quick google which pins I need. Unless anyone knows the Tow Bar pin outs of the top of there head.  :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: The Red Baron on 12 October 2014, 18:26:57
does it have a towbar with twin electrics, you can back feed it through the fridge feed. hey presto. done before myself.  :y
Yes it does, cheers  :y , that was also one of Al's (of many) ideas, just  having a cupa, and a quick google which pins I need. Unless anyone knows the Tow Bar pin outs of the top of there head.  :y
alas not without looking it up. sorry.  ;) jon.
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 18:33:41
Ok bearing in mind I have no Batt connected so cant check, guessing Im looking at (On the Secondary one). Pin 3 Neg, and Pin 2 or 6 Poss, whats the relay for is it battery isolation? see below.

Towbar Wiring
Socket and plug wiring instruction
Wiring Diagram
12N Normal Socket
1)   Left indicator
2)   Fog
3)   Earth
4)   Right indicator
5)   Right side light
6)   Brake
7)   Left side light

12S Supplementary Socket
1)   Reverse
2)   Battery Charge **
3)   Earth

4)   Power feed
5)   Spare
6)   Fridge **
7)   Earth for pin 6 (1998 on)
**NB It is essential that pin 6 is wired through a split relay from 1998 on!!
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 October 2014, 19:32:02
2 and 3 should do it :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: henryd on 12 October 2014, 19:43:44
2 and 3 should do it :y

They won't you know if a split charger relay is fitted,pin 4 should be the Constant live,the other two only go live when alternator charge is sensed
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 October 2014, 19:47:33
2 and 3 should do it :y

They won't you know if a split charger relay is fitted,pin 4 should be the Constant live,the other two only go live when alternator charge is sensed
Doh :-[ blinded by the highlighter ;D
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 20:03:41
Ok, Thanks All (and Al's Phone Call). Will have another go tomorrow as its Cats and Dogs at the moment.

Plan of attack -
- 12 Volts -/+ on 3 and 4, if not then 3 and 2/6
- Try Al's other suggestions.
- Worst case do the Grill and use my Bonnet Pop Up Tool, which I totally forgot about, go's to show always worth sharing a problem when its your own  ;)

 :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: The Red Baron on 12 October 2014, 20:33:41
6 & 3 i seem to remember i did. but dont go blowing owt up.  :D
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 22:17:00
6 & 3 i seem to remember i did. but dont go blowing owt up.  :D
Cheers Jon  :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2014, 22:19:11
2 and 3 should do it :y

They won't you know if a split charger relay is fitted,pin 4 should be the Constant live,the other two only go live when alternator charge is sensed
Thanks for the additional info Henry, well armed up for tomorrow now.  :y
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: The Red Baron on 13 October 2014, 21:39:27
Any luck?.  :-\
Title: Re: Locked out - 03 Estate.
Post by: henryd on 15 October 2014, 13:02:19
Any luck?.  :-\

Yep,was wondering same :y