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Title: Your work load.
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 October 2014, 14:25:19
Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.

So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 October 2014, 14:27:17
Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?


Thats the norm nowdays sadly  :(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 October 2014, 14:27:30
Although I should make the point that we are well off, in the grand scheme of things. We don't want for much. But the work life balance does need a tweak. Definitely.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: aaronjb on 13 October 2014, 14:29:48
I can't argue that I'm underpaid, but definitely feel consistently overworked, under appreciated and it feels like management moves the damn goalposts every other week so I never know quite what my job really is.

The latest initiative being to make this a more directly customer-facing role, and so therefore I am now flying to Poland on Sunday, returning on Friday before going on holiday to Cornwall immediately after that; now I don't get chance to prepare for the holiday, and get to spend next week staring at the inside of a hotel room or the inside of offices in what is apparently a bit of a hole (so Amy's Polish colleague tells me!)

And if I'd wanted a customer facing role I'd have taken one - when I started in this role it was the role you moved into if you wanted to get further away from the customers, not closer to them!


I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Rog on 13 October 2014, 14:33:39





I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.

Well, that's not going to happen   . . . . . . . . . . 'Cos it's my turn     :y

Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 October 2014, 14:36:28





I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.

Well, that's not going to happen   . . . . . . . . . . 'Cos it's my turn     :y


Oh its you i've got to share it with is it  ;D
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: aaronjb on 13 October 2014, 14:42:18
C'mon Rog, you've already done the retirement to the country thing.. you don't need £111m - I'll lend you a few grand to chop all those trees down if you let me win, though ;)


Work and life in general has got annoying enough recently for me - not helped by my arse of a neighbour constantly blocking my drive with his damn tipper truck - that I started looking at properties in Lincolnshire where my folks live for a similar value to my place.. like these two:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43547854.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32222532.html

And a nice little workshop like:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-to-let/property-48340889.html
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: powerslinky on 13 October 2014, 14:43:23
Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.

So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?

It's not just you mr.G . . . Swmbo is employed (NHS)   & work load is constantly increasing to undoable levels >:(

For the last 2 years  she  now comes in from each  shift (Community RGN  ) & has to spend 2 hours on the computer

catching up  logging all the stuff she has not had time to do during her shift . Thats 8 hours a week unpaid   >:(  x50 = 400

hours per year  >:( >:( x 2 years  = 800 hours unpaid  . . . so far  >:( >:( >:(

And what do her management say ?   " Make time during your day"    effin' joke  . . . she cannot even have a break for lunch/

As for me  . . . I'm self employed  . .  usually bathroom & kitchen fitting on contract  . . . but prices for doing the work have

constantly fallen . . .  again to almost undoable levels . . . & know nothing "ijets"  doing the surveys make things so difficult .

. .  .thinking of getting out of it to be honest  >:(

Might call the jobcentre . . . see if theres any vacancies for Giggolo's ;D ;D ;D

EDIT:    good point made earlier about management moving the goalposts  . . . happens constantly here >:( >:(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Stuart30 on 13 October 2014, 17:16:37
Cant say ive been this happy work wise for a long time...yes im self employed Telescopic forklift driver.

Wife oddly likes her job (shelf stacker basicly) despite being capable of much more,as she says the pay is pretty good as she takes home £700 on a flat month for 2.5 nights a week and goes up to £1000 if she does a bit of overtime.

I take home (CIS so deduct 20% at source) £600 ish a week and neither of us have stress at work and she has just been told there getting a 3% pay rise on top of the already decent rate/bonus/10% discount they get already.

Whilst some will and believe me do stick there noses in the air at the "unskilled" work we do,who"s better off...us with no stress or them with stress.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: The Sheriff on 13 October 2014, 17:32:16
I'm retired. My wife has really streesful job and, I reckon, puts in about 75-80 hours a week. My head would explode if I had to do her job but she thrives on it, absolutely loves it. Takes all sorts.


And Stuart, people who look down their nose at you are no more than idiots. The days of job snobbery should be well and truly gone. As I mentioned earlier, I am soon moving out of a social housing property, and there are lots of folk here who 'stack shelves' and are dinner ladies etc. It must stick in their craw to see all the others who 'get by' on benefits, but it doesn't stop them getting up every morning and doing a good job.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Andy B on 13 October 2014, 18:18:30
Have consolation in the fact that the salary or the directors is now 120 times as much as the rest of us.

While we have an average wage of £27k they are on £2.43 million!!!! How do they manage to make ends meet  ???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29587707
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2014, 18:36:03
I earn enough to live comfortably, but the workload, particularly in the last 6-9 months has been unbearable, to the point I have been filling in resignation email but never actually sent it...   ...and usually by Monday I've calmed.

Our trouble is currently appalling management. Truly appalling. I have never been so busy achieving SFA in my life, and this leads to job satisfaction issues, and I guess in some what may be referred to as stress.

However, since a little birdie told me that one of the middle managers was trying to "overload people until they snapped", my usual stubbornness set it ;D. Not everyone has my biligerance...  ...sadly for the poor chap who threw himself under a train a few weeks ago. I think only a handful of us aren't on mind altering medication now.

Don't get me wrong, I love to be busy. I thrive on pressure and busy. I just like to have that warm feeling driving home that I've achieved something, and the last few months I can honestly say I've achieved little, and that's the soul destroying bit.


Problem is, I don't want to commute more than 1hr, and just do a M-F job...
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 October 2014, 19:04:48
I'm saying nothin  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Andy B on 13 October 2014, 19:08:43
I'm saying nothin  :-X :-X :-X

Paid too much or not enough?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Gaffers on 13 October 2014, 19:14:14
I was already flat out recently with projects all over the world on the go, and friday I was given 3 more  :'(

I may just have to leave this client and find another, even if the money is good :(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 19:18:06
I earn enough to live comfortably, but the workload, particularly in the last 6-9 months has been unbearable, to the point I have been filling in resignation email but never actually sent it...   ...and usually by Monday I've calmed.

Our trouble is currently appalling management. Truly appalling. I have never been so busy achieving SFA in my life, and this leads to job satisfaction issues, and I guess in some what may be referred to as stress.

However, since a little birdie told me that one of the middle managers was trying to "overload people until they snapped", my usual stubbornness set in ;D. Not everyone has my biligerance...  ...sadly for the poor chap who threw himself under a train a few weeks ago. I think only a handful of us aren't on mind altering medication now.

Don't get me wrong, I love to be busy. I thrive on pressure and busy. I just like to have that warm feeling driving home that I've achieved something, and the last few months I can honestly say I've achieved little, and that's the soul destroying bit.


Problem is, I don't want to commute more than 1hr, and just do a M-F job...
That isn't going to end well for them... ::) besides it does then give work an alternative purpose... even if it doesn't quite tie in with the job description ;D

I do envy those of you with paid holidays and every weekend off, but the only thing that I was sure of when I left school was that I wasn't going to work in an office... which, by and large, I have managed.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 October 2014, 19:18:56
Paid too much or not enough?

Pay rise??? whats on of them??? Not had one for 3 years now.

Loads of staff leaving, disillusioned with how the jobs goin, cutbacks mean more & more work piled on the ones that are left. Being kept on more past our shift end. Can't get holidays because theres no staff. If you go off sick (even with an injury that happened whilst on duty) your on report, one more & you get warned. Morale is so low, never seen it as  bad as this.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 19:20:03
I'm saying nothin  :-X :-X :-X

Paid too much or not enough?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Probably not enough, given the need to jog everywhere... ;D

Joking aside, if my eyesight were upto it I would have signed up a decade ago :-\
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 October 2014, 19:28:20
Oh and pension  >:( >:( >:( >:( Might as well not worked for the last 8 years, with the 'new' pension we've been shafted with, effectively my clocks been reset to year 0 + we have to put more in. So by the time I get to use it a) it'll be a misely amount & b) I'll be payin it to a carehome!!
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2014, 19:52:06
Oh and pension  >:( >:( >:( >:( Might as well not worked for the last 8 years, with the 'new' pension we've been shafted with, effectively my clocks been reset to year 0 + we have to put more in. So by the time I get to use it a) it'll be a misely amount & b) I'll be payin it to a carehome!!
I guess an "advantage" that most of us in the private sector have is our pensions were screwed years ago when the DB pensions were all closed long before the recession, so we've been on DC pensions for 10yrs or more, and accept that its not worth much.  Luckily I froze my old DB one, rather than transfer it into a DC.

The other "advantage" of private sector is we took the hit earlier in the recession, no pay rises for several years (6, I think), but as we possibly, slowly, maybe pull out of recession, we are seeing small rises - still way below inflation obviously. The poor buggers in the public sector have a lot of what we've been through to come  :'(, although did OK-ish during the recession, so swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 October 2014, 20:05:01
My workload is going to be a lot lighter as someone has been giving me the old 'Cheque's in the post' routine.   ::)

I gave my bank details today and asked them to pay in by the end of play, which they said they would.  They didn't.  >:(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 October 2014, 21:34:09
@ TB.

Sounds very very familiar.

Although I hasten to add, obviously I don't have anywhere near your level of stubbornness ;D
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 October 2014, 21:45:13
My workload is going to be a lot lighter as someone has been giving me the old 'Cheque's in the post' routine.   ::)

I gave my bank details today and asked them to pay in by the end of play, which they said they would.  They didn't.  >:(

Forget that! The money went in about an hour ago and it looks as though I'll be busy for while longer!  ::)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 13 October 2014, 21:46:07
Self employed but have had to do twice as much to earn the same as a 5-6 years ago

Although over the last 6 months things have started to look up, which is good, but mostly with previous customers,

New ones still want a brilliant job, done cheap, which I refuse to do
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: pauls on 13 October 2014, 22:16:54
Allways worked my socks off for different employers over the years but a couple of years ago after a run in with management I went f#@k it. Now only work 3 day weeks every weekend off. Also just got a 3% payrise.
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Vamps on 13 October 2014, 22:56:39
Not just me then...... :( :(

I am really struggling at the moment, as are my colleagues, and sorry to say we are getting fed up with the part timers, when they are not in we have to pick up the pieces on top of ever increasing workloads................. >:( >:(

This is sad because I like my Job, we have a vacancy we can not fill, so have an agency worker in on much more money than us................ :-X

Stress levels are the highest I have ever experienced, head just want's to go bang, I even spoke with HR last week about retirement........... :-\ :-\   

Thinking I could take retirement and then go and work for an agency......... :D :D
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Seth on 13 October 2014, 23:05:01
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 October 2014, 23:11:25
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/

No good Seth, what if the trains geometry was out?  :o  :(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Seth on 13 October 2014, 23:14:28
No good Seth, what if the trains geometry was out?  :o  :(

Gixer'll sort it Tig! ;D
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 23:14:49
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/

No good Seth, what if the trains geometry was out?  :o  :(
Aren't they supposed to tramline then :-\ ::)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Vamps on 13 October 2014, 23:16:41
£43,510 - £43,668   For a train driver!!!!!................ :o :o :o

That said, I don't know what is involved................... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 23:17:15
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/
Nice idea, but not a Trainee position :'(
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 23:17:50
£43,510 - £43,668   For a main line qualified train driver!!!!!................ :o :o :o

That said, I don't know what is involved................... :-\ :-\
Fixed for context :y
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Vamps on 13 October 2014, 23:20:54
£43,510 - £43,668   For a main line qualified train driver!!!!!................ :o :o :o

That said, I don't know what is involved................... :-\ :-\
Fixed for context :y

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Seth on 13 October 2014, 23:42:21
£43,510 - £43,668   For a train driver!!!!!................ :o :o :o

Similar here ... for a four-day 35-hour (average) week. Times are hard in these parts :o
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Seth on 13 October 2014, 23:44:52
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/
Nice idea, but not a Trainee position :'(

Doh ... :-[

Gives an idea though ;)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 October 2014, 23:52:29
 :y
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Andy B on 13 October 2014, 23:57:26
....

That said, I don't know what is involved................... :-\ :-\

How hard can it be?  .......  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 October 2014, 00:26:23
....

That said, I don't know what is involved................... :-\ :-\

How hard can it be?  .......  ::) ::) ::)

Don't you just push and pull a lever or something?  :-\
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: chrisgixer on 14 October 2014, 01:32:31
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/

Yeah we've all looked at that/similar :y . One of our number left a couple of years ago for the railways. He's now in a ticket office, still trying to get on the actual train. ;D

Personally, I can't see an ex bike racers mentality going down too well with the examiners. I'd turn up late and arrive early every day ;D

Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: powerslinky on 14 October 2014, 08:02:41
Ever considered becoming a ... errr ... train driver Mr Gixer? ;)

Not far from you either: https://uk.firstgroupcareers.com/vacancy/1422/description/

Yeah we've all looked at that/similar :y . One of our number left a couple of years ago for the railways. He's now in a ticket office, still trying to get on the actual train. ;D

Personally, I can't see an ex bike racers mentality going down too well with the examiners. I'd turn up late and arrive early every day ;D

You be banned within weeks Mr. G  ;D ;D . . .

How many points do you get for doing 100 in a 70 limit driving a train then ?
Title: Re: Your work load.
Post by: Stuart30 on 14 October 2014, 08:55:15
 >:( Well how many jobs can you square up to someone and threaten to knock there teeth out and go sit down for a cuppa and no one gives a shit...great stress relief... ;D

Not a stressfull job but some of the idiots on site boil my piss.