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Title: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: doz on 24 June 2008, 19:32:30
Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: rickyboy on 24 June 2008, 19:38:04
I personally think after a fortnight's waiting you should be allowed to name and shame.  There are no doubt people who pray on car owners on forums and it's the only way I can see that it can be stopped (along with the post count rule).  

If people don't answer their pm's you've got to be instantly suspicious, mabye making email compulsory for sellers would be another idea.  We've heard all the excuses - my internets down etc but mabye if you've had a confirmed sale then a valid mobile number would also be an idea, so there is no debate.
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: theolodian on 24 June 2008, 19:40:26
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded on undesireable people.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: miggy on 24 June 2008, 19:48:56
I think if someone has conned you on here, and that person is still a member, then he or she should be named and their membership revoked otherwise others could be conned in the same way.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

These people send a chill up my spine, conning barstewards they are >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 June 2008, 19:58:23
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.

Sorry your having problems  :(

When was this member last logged on? easy to check.....
If not been logged on then he wouldnt have got your PM....

Has it been two weeks as rickyboy says?

Could be on holiday?

How did you pay? paypal or sent a cheque? if the later has it been cashed?

Personally i would give it 3 weeks ..... then theres an area on the site that i think admins can post an 'avoid trading with' probably in the bits for sale section......dunno not looked  ::)


Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: hotel21 on 24 June 2008, 19:59:11
Trading disputes are, sadly, not an untrodden path on OOF or elsewhere.

If anyone cares to look on the parts for sale section then take a read of the sticky at the top -  warning, read before buying/selling  (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1209069730) - then those in dispute will be seen as will the status of the dispute.

If a seller were to be banned from accessing the site then that will also close any potential path that could be used to resolve the matter.

As stated, admin are aware and have done what they can to instigate a resolution in the case in question in this thread.

Bottom line is, sadly, there are persons about who abuse whatever position of trust that is gained, most of the time by others, and as a result, spoils things for the remainder....

Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Entwood on 24 June 2008, 20:00:11
Seriously .. send details to an Admin by PM. There is a "name & shame" thread in the stickies of the sales board that an Adminer can put the names up if the problem is not resolved.....  its always worth a peep at before agreeing to buy/sell ....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1209069730

Don't do anything half-cocked .. go through the correct procedure and the Admin staff may well be able to help... thay have in the past


Edit ... must learn to type faster .. :(
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: hotel21 on 24 June 2008, 20:01:40
Doz - you will be able to see if your sent PM's have been read or not.  As TD has said, 2 or 3 weeks is not unusual to be away from the forum but I also note, in your particular circumstances, that the seller has managed to respond to posts in the interim, or do I read it wrong??
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: VX1 on 24 June 2008, 20:05:22
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.

I do appologise (on behalf of genuine members on here) for the  unacceptable experiance you have suffered. I am sure that if you make your concerns known to the Admin team they could revoke the and ban the member that is involved. I am sure that the admin team will make this known to other members to be aware of the member concerned.

Paul

Edit I should type faster as well. Oooppss sorry admin team
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Lazydocker on 24 June 2008, 20:13:25
Doz,

If your dispute is the one registered within the Buyers beware section then bear with the buyer. He has sent me stuff before and does deliver. It took him a little while to get it posted but it all arrived in the condition expected and very quickly once shipped. I'll be surprised if he doesn't come through for you but...

Just my thoughts on it.

P.S. I'm just about to order another couple of things from him too!!!
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 24 June 2008, 20:15:23
The Admin and members on this forum do thier very best to try and avoid this sort of situation.

All I can do is echo the points above, Give it at least a month, keep Admin advised, and if nothing comes of it then the Admin will put them on the shame list.

In the mean time, if you have paid via paypal, then raise a dispute to claim your money back.

Sadly as we find, there is allways one who spoils it for others.

Hope it gets sorted matey
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Tony H on 24 June 2008, 20:56:30
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded on undesireable people.  :P ;D
You speak for yourself! >:( ;)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: theolodian on 24 June 2008, 21:08:46
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded by undesireable people.  :P ;D
You speak for yourself! >:( ;)
I'm an angel me!  [smiley=engel017.gif] ::)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Ken T on 24 June 2008, 21:14:15
Is there not a case for going back to "old technology" ?. If you don't use online methods like paypal, but stick to sending a cheque to an address, then if it doesn't arrive you have a case against the person. You also have a pretty good method of contacting him/her as you know the address the money was sent to. The whole trouble with paypal is the anonimity of the net, people can so easily hide their true identies and locations, and the police haven't got the time to investigate small claims. In the case of paypal, just because millions of people use it doesn't mean its safe, unfortunately.

Ken
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: STMO123 on 24 June 2008, 21:14:16
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded on undesireable people.  :P ;D
You speak for yourself! >:( ;)

UNDESIRABLE. Spell for yourself as well. ;D
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: theolodian on 24 June 2008, 21:16:37
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded on undesireable people.  :P ;D
You speak for yourself! >:( ;)

UNDESIRABLE. Spell for yourself as well. ;D
It's the American spelling, yeah that's it.  ::)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: STMO123 on 24 June 2008, 21:18:15
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.
Sorry about your problem.  However, this site is founded on undesireable people.  :P ;D
You speak for yourself! >:( ;)

UNDESIRABLE. Spell for yourself as well. ;D
It's the American spelling, yeah that's it.  ::)

Darn American spellings. You can spell words just about any way you like and get away with that one.
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: albitz on 24 June 2008, 21:22:37
if its the fella on the list of disputes,i dont know him but have bought from him without problem.i seem to remember a couple of people got annoyed a bout slow delivery recently but things were resolved in due course.i gather he breaks cars and sells the parts ,and i suspect he gets a bit too busy for his own good on occasions.i suspect your problem will be resolved in the near future.just my opinion. :y
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 June 2008, 21:24:00
I think lack of communication is the problem.
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: hotel21 on 24 June 2008, 21:25:06
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I think lack of communication is the problem.

agreed....

Its good to talk, apparently....

Wheres the Buzby smiley??   ;D
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: theolodian on 24 June 2008, 21:26:03
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I think lack of communication is the problem.
What, for differences in spelling?  ;)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: amigov6 on 24 June 2008, 21:28:40
For once i'm not going to be gobby & suggest you give it a couple more weeks in the hope it comes good. I once listed a load of old dicast on ebay, most of which sold but i got snowed under with the p&p, getting packed items to the P.O. etc.
    I sell smaller lots now! 8-)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: willyboy on 24 June 2008, 21:33:15
Used ebay alot buying & selling over the years and find it annoying when peeps sell you something & take an age to send it & don't answer your emails.
Way I see it if you got time to post some things for sale & time to take the money then you should have time to post the items & email buyers regarding any issues its only courtesy & also will get recommended for your dealings or not as in the case of bad selling tactics.
Just my 2 cents :-?
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: HolyCount on 24 June 2008, 21:39:13
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I think lack of communication is the problem.

agreed....

Its good to talk, apparently....

Wheres the Buzby smiley??   ;D


Cor, there's an oldie .... must tell Gladys
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: amigov6 on 24 June 2008, 21:47:04
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Used ebay alot buying & selling over the years and find it annoying when peeps sell you something & take an age to send it & don't answer your emails.
Way I see it if you got time to post some things for sale & time to take the money then you should have time to post the items & email buyers regarding any issues its only courtesy & also will get recommended for your dealings or not as in the case of bad selling tactics.
Just my 2 cents :-?
True. I bit off more than i could chew, but replied to all messages & everyone recieved thier items. I did'nt take into account having no one to help post items with me sometimes being out all week....Hotel Scania... No neg feedback left or recieved.
      Live & learn!!!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 25 June 2008, 01:23:25
Although I very rarely sell components on here, I will self confess that my daytimes are exremely busy and I rarely have time to get to the post office. As a result I once kept a couple of people waiting too long for something I'd promised to send.

Every intention was there to send it and It was delivered in due course but, when you are waiting for something I know how it feels to want it now!

My only way of dealing this now is only to promise what I can realisitcally deliver.

I think part of the problem (although definately not with all sellers) is that some members try too hard to please, and as a result can't always keep up.

I'm famous for this, I do everything with good intent but, I've had to learn that I can only help so many people in one go!

Example being when I was offering free mobile mechanics. I ended up upsetting a few people because I couldn't get back to them / set dates fast enough etc..

And the lesson learned - don't promise what you can't deliver :y

Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: doz on 25 June 2008, 18:11:05
I can understand being overwhelmed with postage if your doing a lot of parts but I paid for this on the 18th of May........ Not very sporting
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: willyboy on 25 June 2008, 19:44:29
Thats lots of time for me if it were ebay you would have taken appropriate steps to get your money back ages ago, almost 5weeks since you paid for it thats no good m8, he isnt playing fair..  !!!
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 25 June 2008, 19:48:30
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Hi all. I have a problem. I purchased some bits from a fellow member on here and he's done a runner with the money. Now were not talking hundreds here but I find the principal of matter more upsetting. I'm a member of 2 other car forums. One is restricted access while the other is a open forum. I've purchased parts on both of these from members with good feed back with no issues. It saddens me to think somebody doesn't buy in to the spirit of the site. So what would you do? Do I name and shame them? after all I've got nothing to loose the moneys gone anyway and it might just stop somebody else getting coined. Do I keep pestering them with Pm's not really my style I like to think If somebody sent me one pm I'd ac immediately I read it. Just accept it's buyer beware and not trust anybody. Which I think is sad. I have contacted the admin on here but I doubt there is much they can do. This kind of thing puts a real downer on the forum community as a whole and makes it a unpleasant experience I mean are you going to want to log on to a site where you feel undesirable people frequent?

If I've gone against forum rules with this I do apologise I should of checked first.


It's not a ebay issue, it's a forum member from what I can understand.
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: willyboy on 25 June 2008, 19:52:29
Yup understand that but its long enough with no emails or anything since he bought it !
So guess his next move is to discuss it with admin privately !
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 June 2008, 20:12:38
If it is a member on here that you are having problems with then I think you have done the right thing contacting the Admins.
They have had some other members doing this sort of thing and have actually put their names onto The Forum so members are aware..

This is the reason I believe that the Admins raised the Post Count for people selling on here..

You may have lost your money with this member which I am sorry about but don't tar us All with the same brush :y
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: hotel21 on 25 June 2008, 20:19:31
This dispute appears to be heading towards resolution......

Hopefully....   :y
Title: Re: Ripped off what would you do?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 June 2008, 20:20:50
Nice one Broocie :y