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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: flyer 0712 on 18 November 2014, 20:21:55
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Would you fit a brand new unused tyre (continental ) that shows date stamp of 6 years old that has been dry stored properly since new or would you say no,,and why....i have tried looking this up and some tyre companies say it would be ok and others say no...due to the oils in the rubber drying out,, :-\ :-\
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Probably not. If the tyre company won't warrant it after 5 yrs, this may impact insurance etc (certainly when I wrote the car off a couple of years ago, my insurance were looking for all ways to get out of paying (and failing) up until then had official confirmation that the other party had accepted responsibility).
Would I change an existing tyre on the car when it hit 5yrs old? Possibly, as above really.
Would I change the spare tyre if it was 5yrs old. No.
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tyres have highly volatile chemicals which keeps the rubber soft.. and this volatility increases with temperature..
never seen a tyre shop keeping them in a refrigerator ;D
however in a colder climate , may be checking and comparing them for softness and then asking for a reasonable
price say 1/2 or 1/3 may be advantageous ..you can sand the surface with a sander 1-2 mm deep and use them for some time.. but not for another 4-5 years..
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I definitely would to get me out of a hole. The tyre, if new and if not allowed to get wet and rot will be a good one.
Would be a better bet than a newish partworn which may have had an easy life or may have hit every pothole in the country.
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No.
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I think my skinny spares have been on the cars from new. :-X :-X :-X
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As someone who generally never buys new tyres, I have to say I favour a used Continental/Dunlop/etc over a brand new no-name tyre any day. Appreciate this is wandering toward to territory I was in a few weeks ago regarding brand new car batteries.
Personally never had any trouble with used tyres. After all - the tyres on the car when you buy it don't tend to be brand new :) Fully appreciate your conundrum, though. I'd be most likely asking the same if I were parting with my hard-earned for a new tyre that's actually 6 years old... Cheaper price would help, though :y
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The family Corsa is still running on it's original 2003 rears.
Pirelli P6000, I think.
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Good job I've changed the tyres on my trailer recently. The old tyres bore the following words on the sidewall: "The India rubber company. Empire made.". ;D
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I know what you mean...
So.. anyone know much about these steel radial jobbies? I might be getting rid of my crossplys, that's all.
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When we brought mum's Ford Fusion i ended up replacing the tyres. they were 3 years old and cracking a lot. Didnt want to take the chance
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I dont think tyre shops will accept a serious price drop on an unused tyre..
and in that case I wont buy them!
seriously tyre shops here dont keep considerable stocks, instead they bring from the tyre supplier when you want to buy.. only small sizes and cheap models are kept handy :-\ and this is for a reason
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Think my take on it would be the same as TB's, basically, OK as a spare for temporary use.
Most 5 year old cars will be carrying a 5 year old spare tyre. I suppose this will be solved now as there seems to be an ever increasing number of cars that don't have a spare wheel at all.
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Think my take on it would be the same as TB's, basically, OK as a spare for temporary use.
Most 5 year old cars will be carrying a 5 year old spare tyre. I suppose this will be solved now as there seems to be an ever increasing number of cars that don't have a spare wheel at all.
This won't be a problem because the can of foam that has replaced the spare will easily fix a blowout..... ::) ::) ::) >:(
Long live the spare wheel. :y
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Good job I've changed the tyres on my trailer recently. The old tyres bore the following words on the sidewall: "The India rubber company. Empire made.". ;D
Should have stuck them on eBay "One careful owner since new" ::)
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Popped into a SEAT dealer the other day to get some new bolts in case I rounded the head off the ones when I replaced the shocks, they had the spare wheel cage, mounting kit, jack and wheel and tyre 'special offer £299 + fitting' on display in the showroom.
I bet the vehicle wasn't reduced by the same price when they stopped fitting something that's been standard equipment since the invention of the car!
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I think my skinny spares have been on the cars from new. :-X :-X :-X
Complete with 80kph speed limit sticker?
They are effectively a space saver. Never going to be capable of delivering the same level of performance or safety.
Re the original question, I suppose it depends on how you view on your tyres.
If you reguard them as merely a means of keeping the rim off the floor/an inconvenient periodic expense, then almost anything will do with a legal tread, Including the spare.
However, if you intend to "rely" on using the maximum safety or performance level at any point, either in emergency situations and or a spirited drive, then it really isn't worth the risk.
Only you can answer. What do you expect from your tyres?
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Popped into a SEAT dealer the other day to get some new bolts in case I rounded the head off the ones when I replaced the shocks, they had the spare wheel cage, mounting kit, jack and wheel and tyre 'special offer £299 + fitting' on display in the showroom.
I bet the vehicle wasn't reduced by the same price when they stopped fitting something that's been standard equipment since the invention of the car!
I see that my VW touareg does have a spare wheel,albeit flat and with a compressor to pump it up before use as it won't fit in the boot inflated,christ knows where the punctured tyre/wheel is meant to go when there is a boot full of luggage as its 20 inch diameter and ain't fitting in the wheel well :-X :-\
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In the case of the Omega, the spare is a size which was standard factory fit as road wheels on earlier lower spec models :y
What makes them unsuitable for higher speeds isn't a tyre issue, it's the fact that that 'spare' tyre is a completely different size to the other three tyres, both in width and sidewall, so less lateral grip (narrower tread and alot more give in the sidewalls) than even a 225/55/16 shod car...
In the scheme of things, the Omega fares quite well in this regard, some space savers wouldn't look out of place on a 2cv :o
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Good job I've changed the tyres on my trailer recently. The old tyres bore the following words on the sidewall: "The India rubber company. Empire made.". ;D
The tyres on my push bike were made by the John Bull Rubber Company, tyres still going strong after 50 years :y
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Good job I've changed the tyres on my trailer recently. The old tyres bore the following words on the sidewall: "The India rubber company. Empire made.". ;D
The tyres on my push bike were made by the John Bull Rubber Company, tyres still going strong after 50 years :y
AA, you haven't RIDDEN that push bike in 50 years. ;D ...going strong indeed ::) ;D
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In the case of the Omega, the spare is a size which was standard factory fit as road wheels on earlier lower spec models :y
What makes them unsuitable for higher speeds isn't a tyre issue, it's the fact that that 'spare' tyre is a completely different size to the other three tyres, both in width and sidewall, so less lateral grip (narrower tread and alot more give in the sidewalls) than even a 225/55/16 shod car...
In the scheme of things, the Omega fares quite well in this regard, some space savers wouldn't look out of place on a 2cv :o
Added to the fact some are T rated, even the best are H rated
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I have to say I favour a used Continental/Dunlop/etc over a brand new no-name tyre any day.
Depends on the tyre. For example, I'd never, ever fit a Continental SC5 on an Omega (again :-[). I'd rather have a ditch finder. At least I'd be richer when it kills me.
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Note to self :. Check spare wheel in boot of my Omega which is ORIGINAL one, unused, and 14 years old now !
I do check pressure when I remember !
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I have two brand spanking new (15yr old (ish)) spare wheels from Omega's in the Garage... never seen tarmac (apart from rolling them in the garage). I'd much rather rely on one of those than a space saver for the 10 mile journey to a tyre shop!
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..... I'd much rather rely on one of those than a space saver for the 10 mile journey to a tyre shop!
It could be said that an Omega's spare is a space saver ...... certainly not the same size of the road wheels (in most cases) ::)
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I think my skinny spares have been on the cars from new. :-X :-X :-X
Complete with 80kph speed limit sticker?
They are effectively a space saver. Never going to be capable of delivering the same level of performance or safety.
Re the original question, I suppose it depends on how you view on your tyres.
If you reguard them as merely a means of keeping the rim off the floor/an inconvenient periodic expense, then almost anything will do with a legal tread, Including the spare.
However, if you intend to "rely" on using the maximum safety or performance level at any point, either in emergency situations and or a spirited drive, then it really isn't worth the risk.
Only you can answer. What do you expect from your tyres?
These are the standard Omega spares, so only slightly smaller IIRC.
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I'd imagine a 195 on a 15 isn't so bad, to be honest, in terms of grip etc.. Most early Omegas ran on that size (hence that's what the wheel well was designed for) Didn't most Carltons run on wheels even a fair few mm thinner? I'd chance my arm a bit and say the increase in wheel size on later Omegas was frankly more of a marketing thing, rather than any real-terms performance increase. Reminding me of a thread a few days ago about how more fuel = more power simply isn't the case, as such. Again, a wider tyre does not necessarily mean more grip - you're reducing the weight per square inch, don't forget.
Always wanted to get something like a Morris Minor and fit it with modern low profile 235 or something, and, conversely, fit the super-skinny tyres of the Morris on a modern car (or equivalent weight, of course) then do cornering tests, to see just how much grip is down to the tyre width etc..
Slightly digressing, but I'd have no issue with running on 195s on an Omega, personally.
PS I hate runflats with a passion!!! :y
There's some scientists getting very foamy at the mouth here debating the issue:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wider-tire-giving-better-traction-debate.330790/
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The anaemic 2.0/2.2 Omega can probably be run on skinny tyres because unlike myself they are under-endowed.... :D ;D ;D
A 'proper' Omega comes with a V6. ;)
....and as for derv drinkers. :-\ ;D ;D......This devil juice is fit only for buses and lorries. ::) ::) :P :P :P :P
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I'd imagine a 195 on a 15 isn't so bad, to be honest, in terms of grip etc.. Most early Omegas ran on that size (hence that's what the wheel well was designed for) Didn't most Carltons run on wheels even a fair few mm thinner? I'd chance my arm a bit and say the increase in wheel size on later Omegas was frankly more of a marketing thing, rather than any real-terms performance increase. Reminding me of a thread a few days ago about how more fuel = more power simply isn't the case, as such. Again, a wider tyre does not necessarily mean more grip - you're reducing the weight per square inch, don't forget.
Always wanted to get something like a Morris Minor and fit it with modern low profile 235 or something, and, conversely, fit the super-skinny tyres of the Morris on a modern car (or equivalent weight, of course) then do cornering tests, to see just how much grip is down to the tyre width etc..
Slightly digressing, but I'd have no issue with running on 195s on an Omega, personally.
PS I hate runflats with a passion!!! :y
There's some scientists getting very foamy at the mouth here debating the issue:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wider-tire-giving-better-traction-debate.330790/
Hell of an echo in here... ::)
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In the case of the Omega, the spare is a size which was standard factory fit as road wheels on earlier lower spec models :y
What makes them unsuitable for higher speeds isn't a tyre issue, it's the fact that that 'spare' tyre is a completely different size to the other three tyres, both in width and sidewall, so less lateral grip (narrower tread and alot more give in the sidewalls) than even a 225/55/16 shod car...
In the scheme of things, the Omega fares quite well in this regard, some space savers wouldn't look out of place on a 2cv :o
Don't know what you mean?
Haha. Apologies, I didn't see your post. ;)