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Title: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 19 November 2014, 06:33:14
I cracked the core when I flushed the oil and crap out during the flush after the oil cooler change  >:(

Would this one do the job ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321031416693?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The motors a 3.2 auto with aircon

TIA 
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: omegod on 19 November 2014, 09:14:54
I have a near new one for 2.2 2.5 3.0 which can be used for 3.2 I believe.
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 19 November 2014, 09:32:25
Possibly, but double check that it has the mountings for the external oil cooler... not all the cheapy ones do :-\
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: dbug on 20 November 2014, 00:45:01
That seems very cheap for an Omega rad - personally I would be a little wary (read the guy's neg and neutral feedback).

Just fitted a new one to the 2.6 Estate (the orig GM one had stressed cracked around the top sensor mount) - cost £100 delivered next day and from a company I have used a few times before.  Good quality and fit.

LINK (http://www.carcooling.co.uk/products/Radiator_Vauxhall_Omega_B_3175_cc_2001_03_02_01_08_03_3_2_i_24V_Man_Auto_vehicles_with_or_without_A_C_653_460_28mm_KZ_DG_12OL456-112675-1245.html)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 November 2014, 06:59:04
They also sell through eBay :y No issues here either, although I always find rads a tight fit around the aircon plumbing/chassis rails :-\
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2014, 09:48:45
I have a near new one for 2.2 2.5 3.0 which can be used for 3.2 I believe.


Pm incoming
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2014, 09:52:43
Can anyone confirm that Omegod's radiator with do the job on my car ?

3.2 auto / aircon

Tia
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: henryd on 20 November 2014, 09:58:34
Can anyone confirm that Omegod's radiator with do the job on my car ?

3.2 auto / aircon

Tia

I think it depends on the bracketry for the external auto box cooler on the 3.2 which isn't present on the 2.5-3.0
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2014, 10:13:41
Can anyone confirm that Omegod's radiator with do the job on my car ?

3.2 auto / aircon

Tia

I think it depends on the bracketry for the external auto box cooler on the 3.2 which isn't present on the 2.5-3.0



Arhh, 'dangle berries'
Can it be retrofitted ?
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: Spireite on 20 November 2014, 10:46:14
Try and locate a Behr radiator, they are a major german brand, and supply to vauxhall oe and other car manufacturers, probably pay around £90 - 100.
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: steve6367 on 20 November 2014, 11:05:38
That seems very cheap for an Omega rad - personally I would be a little wary (read the guy's neg and neutral feedback).

Just fitted a new one to the 2.6 Estate (the orig GM one had stressed cracked around the top sensor mount) - cost £100 delivered next day and from a company I have used a few times before.  Good quality and fit.

LINK (http://www.carcooling.co.uk/products/Radiator_Vauxhall_Omega_B_3175_cc_2001_03_02_01_08_03_3_2_i_24V_Man_Auto_vehicles_with_or_without_A_C_653_460_28mm_KZ_DG_12OL456-112675-1245.html)

Second vote for car cooling - excellent service and good product. I would ring and talk to them rather than ordering online though.

Steve
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: Shackeng on 20 November 2014, 12:20:27
I've fitted an after market one with the integral autobox cooler to my 3.2, and have not suffered any problems. :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2014, 16:26:49
Well, ended up having to ring Car Cooling back 4 times this afternoon because they didn't return my calls when they said they would  >:( >:(
Also spoke to a local firm who said that both of there suppliers have stopped supplying the one with the brackets

This could be a problem for those with auto 3.2 omegas  :(

I'll carry on searching and report back if I find anything
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: Shackeng on 20 November 2014, 16:31:15
Well, ended up having to ring Car Cooling back 4 times this afternoon because they didn't return my calls when they said they would  >:( >:(
Also spoke to a local firm who said that both of there suppliers have stopped supplying the one with the brackets

This could be a problem for those with auto 3.2 omegas :(

I'll carry on searching and report back if I find anything

See post #11. :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2014, 16:44:10
Well, ended up having to ring Car Cooling back 4 times this afternoon because they didn't return my calls when they said they would  >:( >:(
Also spoke to a local firm who said that both of there suppliers have stopped supplying the one with the brackets

This could be a problem for those with auto 3.2 omegas :(

I'll carry on searching and report back if I find anything

See post #11. :y


Have you still got the details for that one Shack ?

Car cooling has finally got back to me and it looks like i'm sorted but it would be handy if these things are going to get rare  :)

For reference but after the fun they had finding one, best to check,  the Car Cooling ident number is ................ 12OLL437 (that's a "o" not a zero)

After a charm offensive by moi, I knocked them down to £97.56

Also ring this number AFTER 15:30 if you want to talk to them
02033 935093
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: Shackeng on 20 November 2014, 18:37:15
Well, ended up having to ring Car Cooling back 4 times this afternoon because they didn't return my calls when they said they would  >:( >:(
Also spoke to a local firm who said that both of there suppliers have stopped supplying the one with the brackets

This could be a problem for those with auto 3.2 omegas :(

I'll carry on searching and report back if I find anything

See post #11. :y


Have you still got the details for that one Shack ?

Car cooling has finally got back to me and it looks like i'm sorted but it would be handy if these things are going to get rare  :)

For reference but after the fun they had finding one, best to check,  the Car Cooling ident number is ................ 12OLL437 (that's a "o" not a zero)

After a charm offensive by moi, I knocked them down to £97.56

Also ring this number AFTER 15:30 if you want to talk to them
02033 935093

I haven't got a make, but it was 127.19 from CAF, but it was a bit of a distress purchase having been let down elsewhere. I was concerned about the lack of a separate cooler, and, like you, was unable to source a correct one other than VX, but have had no problems, and I guess as long as the rad temp sensor works properly, the temp gauge should indicate the overall temps. :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: omegod on 20 November 2014, 20:15:24
Glad your sorted , out of interest this was the one I bought last year, seems with Shackengs experience, it can be used on a 2.6/3.2?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-2-2-5-3-0-1994-2003-RADIATOR-BRAND-NEW-2-YEAR-WARRANTY-/281076260726?hash=item4171735f76
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: biggriffin on 20 November 2014, 20:58:28
I have a 3.0L auto rad in my 3.2.
To fit you need the 2 banjo bolts and two steel pipes that are bolted to the inbilt cooler on a 3.0L
That is the only difference,also noticed,that the car runs cooler with the 3.0L rad. :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 November 2014, 10:58:09
Glad your sorted , out of interest this was the one I bought last year, seems with Shackengs experience, it can be used on a 2.6/3.2?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-2-2-5-3-0-1994-2003-RADIATOR-BRAND-NEW-2-YEAR-WARRANTY-/281076260726?hash=item4171735f76


Cheers bud, had to move quick because the leak had gone from a top up every 200 miles to pouring 3 or 4 litres in every 30 miles  :(
With frosty nights coming and all that ...............
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: henryd on 21 November 2014, 16:47:26
Glad your sorted , out of interest this was the one I bought last year, seems with Shackengs experience, it can be used on a 2.6/3.2?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-2-2-5-3-0-1994-2003-RADIATOR-BRAND-NEW-2-YEAR-WARRANTY-/281076260726?hash=item4171735f76


Cheers bud, had to move quick because the leak had gone from a top up every 200 miles to pouring 3 or 4 litres in every 30 miles  :(
With frosty nights coming and all that ...............

If it freezes it won't leak then :-X :D ;)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 November 2014, 19:44:54
(http://static.dyp.im/3XcPAB7kq1/fe69f2a4f44b2ae0446dc20036539921.jpg)

(http://static.dyp.im/lrWS0GbAEA/757a38cf1bc0dfe7263bb32fd6e5316c.jpg)


This is the radiator that Car cooling sent me for my 3.2 auto

Is this the right one please ?
Never had a auto before so I haven't got a clue what behind there  :)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 November 2014, 20:13:00
Looks like it :y

You can ignore the two internal cooler connections on the rear right hand side :y

The two threaded holes on the left for the thermoswitches have covers on by the look of it :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 November 2014, 20:32:09
Looks like it :y

You can ignore the two internal cooler connections on the rear right hand side :y

The two threaded holes on the left for the thermoswitches have covers on by the look of it :y



Cheers Al  :)

Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 November 2014, 12:04:44
Right, i've just removed the old radiator and laid them along side each other.

The new radiator Doesn't have the pipe exits for the rubber pipe that goes from the top (as you face the car) left across via the aux pump to the right  :'(

Can this be removed and the pump be left connected to ensure electrical continuity ??
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 12:53:49
That's the wrong rad then... :-\

I didn't spot that when I looked at the pics yesterday :-[ I was focusing on the external oil cooler mounts as they're usually what is missing...

Sounds like it might be a 3.0 rad rather than the 2.6/3.2 one :-\
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 12:57:46
That pump helps force coolant across the rad when the car gets hot, without it you run the risk of cooking the car in traffic/warmer weather :-\

If you fit it without the pump/hoses then leave the pump unplugged, as having it running dry will do more harm than good.
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 November 2014, 12:59:48
That's the wrong rad then... :-\

I didn't spot that when I looked at the pics yesterday :-[ I was focusing on the external oil cooler mounts as they're usually what is missing...

Sounds like it might be a 3.0 rad rather than the 2.6/3.2 one :-\


Kin ell, don't worry about that mate, just happy for the advise  :)

Question is, this new rad has to go in because the old one took some serious abuse on the way out and its highly likely it will really leak now  >:(
My thinking is that I can fit the fan to the new radiator and leave these 2 20mm pipes disconnected  :-\
Problem is, what does that aux pump do that's fitted to the fan frame ?
Looking at it, it recirculates the water around the radiator as a part of the climate  :-\

What do you lot think ?
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 November 2014, 13:00:46
Okay, i'm a slow at typing   :-[

Does that pump run all the time the engine is running ?
If so, I can stick 12 volts on it
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 13:14:10
Okay, i'm a slow at typing   :-[

Does that pump run all the time the engine is running ?
If so, I can stick 12 volts on it
Not sure, think it my be controlled, via a relay, by one of the two thermoswitches on the battery end :-\

If you're fitting the rad, then leave the pump/hoses off, and keep a close eye on the temp gauge, use the climate settings/window or two to regulate the engine temp...

ie gauge rises... heater temp to hi, fan on... car gets too hot inside... open window...

Shouldn't be a big issue through the winter though :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 November 2014, 13:36:38
Yup, that's the cunning plan
I've got a level 2 counter balance  forklift course mon - fri next week so its a 30 mile round trip everyday.
If I do it on bus, its 3 busses and a 6am start plus the missus ends up in the shite for work too  :(
There is a good old school radiator place here in hull so i'll drop the knackered rad off and see if they can re core it for a reasonable sum then sell this one that those tossers sent me to try and get some money back  >:(

Friggin ell, i'm pissed off.
I must have been a real bastard in a past life to suffer like this  ::)

Thank all  :)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 13:38:23
Yup, that's the cunning plan
I've got a level 2 counter balance  forklift course mon - fri next week so its a 30 mile round trip everyday.
If I do it on bus, its 3 busses and a 6am start plus the missus ends up in the shite for work too  :(
There is a good old school radiator place here in hull so i'll drop the knackered rad off and see if they can re core it for a reasonable sum then sell this one that those tossers sent me to try and get some money back  >:(

Friggin ell, i'm pissed off.
I must have been a real bastard in a past life to suffer like this  ::)

Thank all  :)
So you were that sodding butterfly that flapped it's wings in the wrong direction and sent us all to hell ;D
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 November 2014, 13:53:12
Yup, that's me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 13:54:53
Yup, that's me  ;D ;D
Well then, you've answered your own question ;D
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 November 2014, 20:16:34
Correct 2.6 / 3.2 radiator is:-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125991.msg1606925#msg1606925
 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125991.msg1606925#msg1606925)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: dbug on 23 November 2014, 01:13:51
Correct 2.6 / 3.2 radiator is:-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125991.msg1606925#msg1606925
 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125991.msg1606925#msg1606925)

Yep thats the one I got for the 2.6 - no issues fitting it.  Correct part no is 12OL456 - part no Mr Gonads quoted (12OL437) is not even listed as an Omega rad :o  Should have followed my link earlier in this thread or VXL V6s - both link to correct part for your car ;)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 23 November 2014, 09:56:30
I used that link as a reference.
Car Cooling told me they have very recently changed suppliers and everything had changed.
While I was on the phone, he rang 2 other suppliers who said the same thing.
He then rang somebody who had dealt with the same problem and that where this radiator came from.
Also, when I rang my local specialists, he said they where no longer listed in both of his catalogues. 

Well the rad is back in the box and i'll be on the phone for a full refund tomorrow morning >:(

The knackered rad is going to a radiator specialists who are reasonably local to me in morning by "dad's taxi and delivery service"
I've used them many years ago and the old ma knows them from his old job so I might even get a discount  :D

Appreciate the links lads but said earlier in the topic, I think we may have to be carful when we replace our rads  :)
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: VXL V6 on 23 November 2014, 10:30:11
The one I bought was made by AVA.
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: dbug on 23 November 2014, 23:07:51
I only ordered mine less than 2 weeks ago and it arrived next day.  Part Nş was 12OL456 and in my converastaion with supplier the guy stated they had "loads in stock".  :o :o  the one delivered was corect  Part Nş and fitted no problems.
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 November 2014, 17:59:42
Well as in the world of Gonads, the original rad is totally knackered with a nice fracture / crack on the plastic near the bracket mount  :(

SO there I am on the phone to get my money back WHEN YOU GUESSED IT, the man says ............. can I ring you back  >:(

10 minutes later, the man comes clean and says, NOW I KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS  ::) ::)
Great I say, get it in the post please  :)
Then the man says, OH SORRY BUT I'VE MADE A MISTAKE  >:( I GOT IT WRONG AND THE PART NUMBER YOU GAVE ME LAST THURSDAY IS THE ONE YOU WANT  >:( >:( >:(
Jesus Christ, I must be the most unlucky bloke on the planet  :'(

So apologies to the lads who did the leg work on this but when the man on the phone insists your wrong because he has just changed suppliers and HE has all the information in front of him .................. well you know the rest  :-X :-X

Pished off isn't the word for it  :(
Sat on 2 busses this morning and 2 to get back and I will end up suffering it until the weekend  >:(
All I can say is, I hope the right one comes this time or I think I may end up getting into trouble  :-X :-X

IF it turns out to be the right one, i'll post all details I have on here for future reference  :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: omega3000 on 24 November 2014, 18:50:26
Oh dear and public transport to boot  :( Never rains an all , hope you get it sorted soon  :y

Anyone want a holed condenser  >:(
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 November 2014, 13:52:29
Well, i'd thought i'd stick a update on this saga for you all to giggle at  ::) ;D

Well, Gerrard, the man at Carcooling was true to his word and sorted out the right part and got into the post for me  :y :y

Here is the good big .............. spent yesterday afternoon dressing the new rad with the fan and other bits and bobs and off I went to fit the bugger.
After the fun i've had, I decided to fit the bottom hose and fill it up via the top hose and a funnel before sticking the bagpipes / air box back in.
Well good job I did because within 2 minutes, I had nice fresh red antifreeze pouring out of a hole in the matrix and all over the piggin road  >:( >:(
Just to round it off, one of my lovely neighbours decided to have a fanny fit and told me that she is going to report me to the council for pouring antifreeze all over the road  :o :o
I polite request by me for her husband to come over and repeat what she intended to do was met by a subdued decline and she shuffled off in the direction of her home  ;D ;D

Well, after another conversation with Gerrard, it was agreed that another one was to be sent  ::)
Well, this one turned up this morning and is now on the car leak free I THINK  ;) :D :D
Fingers crossed  ;D

Next on the list is new rear brake discs and pads followed by that wheel bering  ::)
God, I just love my Omega sometimes   ;D
 
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 November 2014, 14:06:51
Yup, definitely one of those weeks :-\

Fingers crossed though :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: dbug on 28 November 2014, 23:43:38
Well, i'd thought i'd stick a update on this saga for you all to giggle at  ::) ;D

Well, Gerrard, the man at Carcooling was true to his word and sorted out the right part and got into the post for me  :y :y

Here is the good big .............. spent yesterday afternoon dressing the new rad with the fan and other bits and bobs and off I went to fit the bugger.
After the fun i've had, I decided to fit the bottom hose and fill it up via the top hose and a funnel before sticking the bagpipes / air box back in.
Well good job I did because within 2 minutes, I had nice fresh red antifreeze pouring out of a hole in the matrix and all over the piggin road  >:( >:(
Just to round it off, one of my lovely neighbours decided to have a fanny fit and told me that she is going to report me to the council for pouring antifreeze all over the road  :o :o
I polite request by me for her husband to come over and repeat what she intended to do was met by a subdued decline and she shuffled off in the direction of her home  ;D ;D

Well, after another conversation with Gerrard, it was agreed that another one was to be sent  ::)
Well, this one turned up this morning and is now on the car leak free I THINK  ;) :D :D
Fingers crossed  ;D

Next on the list is new rear brake discs and pads followed by that wheel bering  ::)
God, I just love my Omega sometimes   ;D

Guess you must be one of life's unlucky sods mate - had 3 of these off carcoolinguk (3 different Qmegas) without any issue.  Still glad you're eventually sorted now :y
Title: Re: Radiator for my car
Post by: tigers_gonads on 29 November 2014, 10:12:46
Well, i'd thought i'd stick a update on this saga for you all to giggle at  ::) ;D

Well, Gerrard, the man at Carcooling was true to his word and sorted out the right part and got into the post for me  :y :y

Here is the good big .............. spent yesterday afternoon dressing the new rad with the fan and other bits and bobs and off I went to fit the bugger.
After the fun i've had, I decided to fit the bottom hose and fill it up via the top hose and a funnel before sticking the bagpipes / air box back in.
Well good job I did because within 2 minutes, I had nice fresh red antifreeze pouring out of a hole in the matrix and all over the piggin road  >:( >:(
Just to round it off, one of my lovely neighbours decided to have a fanny fit and told me that she is going to report me to the council for pouring antifreeze all over the road  :o :o
I polite request by me for her husband to come over and repeat what she intended to do was met by a subdued decline and she shuffled off in the direction of her home  ;D ;D

Well, after another conversation with Gerrard, it was agreed that another one was to be sent  ::)
Well, this one turned up this morning and is now on the car leak free I THINK  ;) :D :D
Fingers crossed  ;D

Next on the list is new rear brake discs and pads followed by that wheel bering  ::)
God, I just love my Omega sometimes   ;D

Guess you must be one of life's unlucky sods mate - had 3 of these off carcoolinguk (3 different Qmegas) without any issue.  Still glad you're eventually sorted now :y



Eh. yes  :'(
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=127518.0