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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: terry paget on 02 December 2014, 19:04:45
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My sister has asked me to service her Meriva 1.6. The oil filter (cartridge type) is very tight and I cannot shift it. Access is poor. Any tips?
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Screw driver method :y
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.....if you can get it in that is :y
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Screw driver method :y
cartridge type ......... ::) ::)
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Oh. I thought the metal ones were called cartridge filters and the other ones were ''paper'' filters.
Sorry. i'll shut up go away ::)
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Oh. I thought the metal ones were called cartridge filters and the other ones were ''paper'' filters.
Sorry. i'll shut up go away ::)
I'd say that a paper & cartridge were the same thing as opposed to a cannister type ;)
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arr...getting canister and cartridge mixed up.
exits stage left ::) ;D
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exits stage left ::) ;D
;D ;D don't forget to take your screwdriver with you ;)
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exits stage left ::) ;D
;D ;D don't forget to take your screwdriver with you ;)
Got a good place for it :-[ :-[ :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Ps, again sorry Terry.
Please. Proceed as normal... ::)
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24mm socket iirc :-\ a couple of extensions and a breaker bar :-\ should simply undo...
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Woops! It's canister type, in fact same part as on some Omegas. It may well be a screwdriver job - I presume you mean shove a screwdriver through it, Webby. I've spent an hour trying to get hold of it with a chain device, also a belt tool. Do you mean hammer a long sharp screwdriver through it and use it as a lever, Webby?
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
That's the theory. :D ;)
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Woops! It's canister type, .....
turns out you were right Webby! ;D ;D ;D
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
Thanks Al. I have not done this trick for years. Last time I hit two nails into the base, but on this car I have no access to do that. I fear damaging the filter base or thread. Access is bad. Would putting a long drill through be more prudent?
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Whichever way you do it, it's gonna get messy. ;D
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Blooming garages! It was difficult undoing the drain plug. I expect the wheel nuts are jolly tight and the wheels rusted on. Haynes instructs 'only screw the filter on hand tight' but garage mechanics ignore that.
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
Thanks Al. I have not done this trick for years. Last time I hit two nails into the base, but on this car I have no access to do that. I fear damaging the filter base or thread. Access is bad. Would putting a long drill through be more prudent?
:o don't think so...
Looking down the front of the engine the filter sticks straight out at 90°
Draw a line straight along the body of the filter at tdc. Then an inch towards the blockfrom the head, and about 30° clockwise draw a cross. This is your target. Whack the screwdriver in here and keep going until it stops against the opposite side.
Rotate the filter anticlockwise with the screw driver.
When you fit the new filter, tighten by hand and iut should still undo by hand in 10k miles time :y
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Since I bought a chain wrench, I've not needed to use a screwdriver through a filter.
I have removed filters with a bit of sandpaper and an old leather belt, when that was all I could find.
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
Thanks Al. I have not done this trick for years. Last time I hit two nails into the base, but on this car I have no access to do that. I fear damaging the filter base or thread. Access is bad. Would putting a long drill through be more prudent?
:o don't think so...
Looking down the front of the engine the filter sticks straight out at 90°
Draw a line straight along the body of the filter at tdc. Then an inch towards the blockfrom the head, and about 30° clockwise draw a cross. This is your target. Whack the screwdriver in here and keep going until it stops against the opposite side.
Rotate the filter anticlockwise with the screw driver.
When you fit the new filter, tighten by hand and iut should still undo by hand in 10k miles time :y
I'm working from below of course. So I draw a vertical line, then go 30 degrees clockwise, or as far as space allows and hammer through a long screwdriver. I push it through until it hits the other side, then do I hammer it through the other side? The heave anticlockwise and pray it budges.
This car is harder to work on than an Omega.
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Used a gloved hand, but watch yourself on the Cat :y
Tap a long screwdriver in to it from the two o'clock position and drive it home, the simply pull the screwdriver up and over anticlockwise...
Then unscrew by hand :y
Thanks Al. I have not done this trick for years. Last time I hit two nails into the base, but on this car I have no access to do that. I fear damaging the filter base or thread. Access is bad. Would putting a long drill through be more prudent?
:o don't think so...
Looking down the front of the engine the filter sticks straight out at 90°
Draw a line straight along the body of the filter at tdc. Then an inch towards the blockfrom the head, and about 30° clockwise draw a cross. This is your target. Whack the screwdriver in here and keep going until it stops against the opposite side.
Rotate the filter anticlockwise with the screw driver.
When you fit the new filter, tighten by hand and iut should still undo by hand in 10k miles time :y
I'm working from below of course. So I draw a vertical line, then go 30 degrees clockwise, or as far as space allows and hammer through a long screwdriver. I push it through until it hits the other side, then do I hammer it through the other side? The heave anticlockwise and pray it budges.
This car is harder to work on than an Omega.
If you fancy another challenge some day, try a fuel filter on a diesel Zafira.Then when you have fitted it, try stop it leaking!
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Since I bought a chain wrench, I've not needed to use a screwdriver through a filter.
I have removed filters with a bit of sandpaper and an old leather belt, when that was all I could find.
Thanks Nick. I've got a chain wrench, I've got a fabric loop attached to a half inch socket shaft I can wind up till it's tight, and I have got a filter holder ring that's supposed to grip the end of a filter, which it does, but not strongly enough. There is not enough room to swing the chain wrench until it grips. The leather belt sounds quite like the wind-up fabric loop, again it's hard to swing. I shall sleep on it. If you have any more ideas, please advise me.
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From underneath, go straight at it aim at 6 o'clock about 3 inches from the block and go as far as, not through the opposite side :y
Guess there isn't room to reach down to it from above then :-\
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-AK642-Oil-Filter-Wrench-Claw-Type-63-103mm-Capacity-3-8-1-2-Sq-Drive-/130648671100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e6b44837c
With a fine tooth ratchet/spanner these will undo most things.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-AK642-Oil-Filter-Wrench-Claw-Type-63-103mm-Capacity-3-8-1-2-Sq-Drive-/130648671100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e6b44837c
With a fine tooth ratchet/spanner these will undo most things.
Thanks Tidia. I shall seek one of those locally, or by post. I will report the result.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-AK642-Oil-Filter-Wrench-Claw-Type-63-103mm-Capacity-3-8-1-2-Sq-Drive-/130648671100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e6b44837c
With a fine tooth ratchet/spanner these will undo most things.
+1 ,if that doesn't undo it you have a problem :y
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My weapon of choice is:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-LARGE-WATER-PUMP-PLIERS-PLUMBERS-BIG-PLIERS-CUSHION-GRIP-HANDLE-HEAVY-DUTY-/321576622376?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item4adf75d928
Also useful for squeezing caliper pistons in, gripping large pulleys etc. etc. etc......one of the most used tools I have
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Also useful for squeezing caliper pistons in, gripping large pulleys etc. etc. etc......one of the most used tools I have
heh, and I got a funny look off my plumber friend when I asked to borrow his plumbers pliers to do something on his car ;D
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Every toolbox should contain at least three sizes of those babies, they are handy things. And WD40....don't forget that. ;D
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I have returned car to sister until the tool arrives. I failed today to shift the filter with a tool with a loop of strong fabric.
I was tempted to attack the filter by attempting to shift it with a chisel on the engine end of the filter. seemed worth a try. Is this a good idea?
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I have returned car to sister until the tool arrives. I failed today to shift the filter with a tool with a loop of strong fabric.
I was tempted to attack the filter by attempting to shift it with a chisel on the engine end of the filter. seemed worth a try. Is this a good idea?
I don't think I'd use a chisel,to much scope to cause harm
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Thanks to all for advice. Three clawed tool arived today, but it did not shift the filter. So I resorted to the screwdriver. I had to put it through three times, turning it 20 degrees each time, before it would turn by hand. It is now tightened hand tight so next time it should be easy. Thanks. Al.