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Title: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: The Sheriff on 04 December 2014, 22:07:12
Does anyone else think it's a bit of a con? It claims that you can get over 100mpg from a huge 4X4, which may or may not be true, but.....it fails to mention that petrol/diesel is not the only fuel you will be paying for. You have to charge it up every night just like Matt's milk float.
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 10:59:44
It is also an ugly fooker......being almost 'Daewooesque' in appearance. :)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2014, 11:02:16
If you want to save fuel / the planet (delete according to your belief system), wouldn't you just not buy a Chelsea Tractor? :-\
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 11:20:31
If you want to save fuel / the planet (delete according to your belief system), wouldn't you just not buy a Chelsea Tractor? :-\

All of these, Range Rooney included, are no more than 'posh vans' with windows.
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2014, 11:58:57
If you want to save fuel / the planet (delete according to your belief system), wouldn't you just not buy a Chelsea Tractor? :-\

All of these, Range Rooney included, are no more than 'posh vans' with windows.

Indeed. A saloon car has now got about as aerodynamically efficient as it's going to be, but no, we need to drive something "sit-up-and-beg" with a huge frontal area and spare wheels, roof bars, etc. hanging off it.  ::)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: The Sheriff on 05 December 2014, 12:17:33
I need a cube-shaped vehicle to carry my doggie and her wardrobe of coats, towels, bags etc,.
But my point was not about the vehicle, it was about the claim the advert made. While it might have been true that it could obtain xxxxxmpg, there was no mention of cost of electricity.
I may write to the ASA.
Disgruntled of Barnsley.  >:(
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2014, 13:14:51
Does anyone else think it's a bit of a con? It claims that you can get over 100mpg from a huge 4X4, which may or may not be true, but.....it fails to mention that petrol/diesel is not the only fuel you will be paying for. You have to charge it up every night just like Matt's milk float.

Thats surely is going to cost a fortune especially if your on a card meter like me   ;D These charging points around the big cities , do you get to charge your car for free ?  :-\
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Entwood on 05 December 2014, 13:37:01
Does anyone else think it's a bit of a con? It claims that you can get over 100mpg from a huge 4X4, which may or may not be true, but.....it fails to mention that petrol/diesel is not the only fuel you will be paying for. You have to charge it up every night just like Matt's milk float.

Thats surely is going to cost a fortune especially if your on a card meter like me   ;D These charging points around the big cities , do you get to charge your car for free ?  :-\

If you own a Tesla Model S and use their dedicated high charge points .. YES !! For all the others .. no idea !

 http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/supercharger

:)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2014, 13:45:21
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(

Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 December 2014, 14:02:57
These SUV's are all pretty homogeneous these days.  If you took the Mitsubishi badge off it could be anything.  ::)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 14:03:18
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 14:03:51
These SUV's are all pretty homogeneous these days.  If you took the Mitsubishi badge off it could be anything.  ::)
I think you'll find a Peugeot badge on it somewhere :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Entwood on 05 December 2014, 14:13:38
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y

Al .. you forgot one other extremely important point ......

IT'S BLOODY GORGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and so are the performance figures !)

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: minifreek on 05 December 2014, 14:17:08
The MPG figures (getting back on topic) are IIRC combined use of the engine and the electric motor thus giving the 100MPG as the engine won't be running constantly but only when needed....
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2014, 14:18:32
The MPG figures (getting back on topic) are IIRC combined use of the engine and the electric motor thus giving the 100MPG as the engine won't be running constantly but only when needed....

.. and you can bet that the battery was fully charged at the start of their "test" and empty at the end of it. ;)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 14:26:06
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y

Al .. you forgot one other extremely important point ......

IT'S BLOODY GORGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and so are the performance figures !)

 :D :D :D :D
Believe you me Nigel, I am very much a fan :y

If I could guarantee my income, it would be a serious contender for work :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: henryd on 05 December 2014, 16:23:36
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y

Al .. you forgot one other extremely important point ......

IT'S BLOODY GORGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and so are the performance figures !)

 :D :D :D :D

+1,its about the only leccy car I could live with at the moment :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 18:59:21
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Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y

Al .. you forgot one other extremely important point ......

IT'S BLOODY GORGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and so are the performance figures !)

 :D :D :D :D

+1,its about the only leccy car I could live with at the moment :y

....but still no more than a glorified milk float.

Hydrogen fuel cell cars are the way to go. Electric cars have been around since the dawn of time and yet they still need a good old-fashioned petrol engine to help out if you travel further than the end of your drive.
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:00:56
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 19:07:23
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
Keep trying... ::) Tesla have an unlimited mileage 8 year warranty on drive train and batteries, which is nice :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: The Sheriff on 05 December 2014, 19:08:04
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
You can rent the batteries, but still very expensive.
You hold on to your ancient barge, old man, it won't be obsolete for a while yet. :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:09:18
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
You can rent the batteries, but still very expensive.
You hold on to your ancient barge, old man, it won't be obsolete for a while yet. :y

Who are you calling an 'old man'........Fossil face. ;D :P :P :P
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:11:08
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
Keep trying... ::) Tesla have an unlimited mileage 8 year warranty on drive train and batteries, which is nice :y

By which time they are barely fit to get you home from the corner shop. ;D ;D

....and when they finally go tits up the cost for replacement is......£....???
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: The Sheriff on 05 December 2014, 19:12:09
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
Keep trying... ::) Tesla have an unlimited mileage 8 year warranty on drive train and batteries, which is nice :y

By which time they are barely fit to get you home from the corner shop. ;D ;D
I agree. Bet they're well down on range after just the first year.
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:13:54
Not to mention the cost of replacement batteries every five years or so. :-\
Keep trying... ::) Tesla have an unlimited mileage 8 year warranty on drive train and batteries, which is nice :y

By which time they are barely fit to get you home from the corner shop. ;D ;D
I agree. Bet they're well down on range after just the first year.

Not to mention the effects of sub zero temperatures.
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:17:56
Quote
Supercharging is free for the life of Model S

Ought to be at £980 a month for the car  :'(
Been through this already. Fueling a Tesla at home for a year costs less than taxing your Omega for a year. Though that does totally ignore the fact that you can fuel the Tesla at Tesla chgarging points free for ever. So it's already saves you the cost of taxing and fueling your Omega.

By the way, it's a £50k+ car from the executive end of the luxury market. The target audience is S Class/7 series drivers, so no point bitching about the price, as you clearly missed the point of it :y

Al .. you forgot one other extremely important point ......

IT'S BLOODY GORGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and so are the performance figures !)

 :D :D :D :D
Believe you me Nigel, I am very much a fan :y

If I could guarantee my income, it would be a serious contender for work :y

A Tesla taxi.......are you mad, Al?:D :D ;D
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 19:45:57
Not at all... £1380 pm for the spec I want, then take full advantage of free charges rip the arse out of the supercharger network and free coffee plus insurance, so call it £1550 per month. The Eclass costs a total of £650 prr month. The £900 a month difference equates to two tanks of diesel a week...

A slow week I'll use just over a tank and on a busy week will use three tanks. If I were consistently busy, the Model S would make serious sense... :y
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 December 2014, 19:54:30
Not at all... £1380 pm for the spec I want, then take full advantage of free charges rip the arse out of the supercharger network and free coffee plus insurance, so call it £1550 per month. The Eclass costs a total of £650 prr month. The £900 a month difference equates to two tanks of diesel a week...

A slow week I'll use just over a tank and on a busy week will use three tanks. If I were consistently busy, the Model S would make serious sense... :y

Would you have to put a large deposit down?
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: tigers_gonads on 05 December 2014, 20:02:21
Not at all... £1380 pm for the spec I want, then take full advantage of free charges rip the arse out of the supercharger network and free coffee plus insurance, so call it £1550 per month. The Eclass costs a total of £650 prr month. The £900 a month difference equates to two tanks of diesel a week...

A slow week I'll use just over a tank and on a busy week will use three tanks. If I were consistently busy, the Model S would make serious sense... :y

Serious question Al
I wonder if there is a market for a environmentally friendly, luxurious taxi service with some of the more image conscious companies in the capital.
I bet there are some companies or even celebrities around there who would pay top dollar to turn up at a venue or conference in a flash so called environmentally sound car  :y
And of course, you would charge a very good rate for such a exclusive service  :) 

Maybe its worth looking into  ;)
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Broomies Mate on 05 December 2014, 20:46:14
Not at all... £1380 pm for the spec I want, then take full advantage of free charges rip the arse out of the supercharger network and free coffee plus insurance, so call it £1550 per month. The Eclass costs a total of £650 prr month. The £900 a month difference equates to two tanks of diesel a week...

A slow week I'll use just over a tank and on a busy week will use three tanks. If I were consistently busy, the Model S would make serious sense... :y

Serious question Al
I wonder if there is a market for a environmentally friendly, luxurious taxi service with some of the more image conscious companies in the capital.
I bet there are some companies or even celebrities around there who would pay top dollar to turn up at a venue or conference in a flash so called environmentally sound car  :y
And of course, you would charge a very good rate for such a exclusive service  :) 

Maybe its worth looking into  ;)

Nah - The 'celebs' will end up in a Toyota Avensis/Mitsubishi Charisma because the batteries on the Tesla failed.  ;D
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2014, 21:33:05
£2k to order it, then no further deposit, but even lightly specced it's near enough £68k...

Mocking/jesting aside, there are firms using them as chauffeur cars in the City, so it's not an unreasonable business suggestion :-\
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 December 2014, 21:43:25
How long do they take to charge up? Could be some serious downtime....  :-\
Title: Re: This Mitsubishi PHEV advert
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 December 2014, 03:47:10
How long do they take to charge up? Could be some serious downtime....  :-\
Two hours using the Supercharger iirc, overnight if at home... public chargepoints are about a mile per minute depending on servicability, but specced correctly, the Model S is available with twin chargers, effectively doubling the charge rate :y