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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Debs. on 26 June 2008, 09:03:40
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"If a man says something in the woods and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?" ;D
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here we go again........ ::)
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nope, he heard himself..... and we always think we're right!
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;D ;D ;D
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Without wanting to be unduly pedantic, that isn't Schrödinger's Paradox. No cat.
This is based on an older philosphical conundrum "If a tree falls in a forest with no-one to hear it fall, does it make a sound?".
As to the question posed, of course he's wrong - he opened his mouth :(
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Without wanting to be unduly pedantic, that isn't Schrödinger's Paradox. No cat.
This is based on an older philosphical conundrum "If a tree falls in a forest with no-one to hear it fall, does it make a sound?".
As to the question posed, of course he's wrong - he opened his mouth :(
:y 'Pedants unite'; well, to be grammatically correct: "Pedants may (or should) unite".....but, who`s worried; except you and me I ;D
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Men cant be wrong.Can they?
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I thought it was something you tipped into the bath before a long soak ::)
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I thought it was something you tipped into the bath before a long soak ::)
No, that's Jizer.
;D
Kevin
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hi only the man can say if's right or wrong(useing ockham's razor)
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hi only the man can say if's right or wrong(useing ockham's razor)
Okham or no Ockham, no man has the right to decide whether he is right or wrong. His wife will tell him.
And, anyway, she's probably snaffled old Roger's razor to shave her legs. :(
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I thought Schrödinger had had his paradox surgically removed ::)
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I thought Schrödinger had had his paradox surgically removed ::)
By Ockham's Razor?
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Without wanting to be unduly pedantic, that isn't Schrödinger's Paradox. No cat.
This is based on an older philosphical conundrum "If a tree falls in a forest with no-one to hear it fall, does it make a sound?".As to the question posed, of course he's wrong - he opened his mouth :(
Quantum scientists can take this much deeper in their discoveries of atoms not remaining in one place once a human removes their focus of vision on them, thus seemingly dispersing across the universe and being in two places at once.
This thus produces the theory that none of the physical world we see is actually real and is purely the product of collective thought by the human race. Indeed outside of our senses and brain sensentations of the five senses, it is believed there is a pure vacume where no sound, colour, texture, smell or vision exists. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) in 1905 found this all too 'spooky' for him as he could not mathmatically disagree with it and apparently did not want to consider the endless possibilities. :-/ :-/ :-/
Therefore it is more than possible that the tree perhaps does not really exist until the human being witnesses it and its felling, so only makes a sound at that point, but the man in the forest does make a sound because as a human he has the collective ability of hearing his and any other persons sound. ;) ;)
Food for thought? :D ;)
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A more straightforward application of the Razor is when we are face with two theories which have the same predictions and the available data cannot distinguish between them. In this case the Razor directs us to study in depth the simplest of the theories. It does not guarantee that the simplest theory will be correct, it merely establishes priorities. What is Ockham's Razor?
When a new set of facts requires the creation of a new theory the process is far from the orderly picture often presented in books. Many hypothses are proposed, studied, rejected. Researchers discuss their validity (sometimes quite heatedly) proposing experiments which will determine the validity of one or the other, exposing flaws in their least favorite ones, etc. Yet, even when the unfit hypotheses are discarded, several options may remain, in some cases making the exact same predictions, but having very different underlying assumptions. In order to choose among these possible theories a very useful tool is what is called Ockham's razor.
Ockham's Razor is the principle proposed by William of Ockham in the fourteenth century: ``Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate'', which translates as ``entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily''.
In many cases this is interpreted as ``keep it simple'', but in reality the Razor has a more subtle and interesting meaning.
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Why do I always think it was "Roger of Ockham" who was famed for the Razor? I know it's William, but I make the same mistake every time the principle comes up in conversation, which it doesn't very often because I no longer encounter in my daily life anyone who can sustain an intelligent conversation for more than three minutes. :(
Last night's TV now forms a more significant part of my life than philosophy. >:(
There must be simple explanation... :)
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If a woman falls over in the woods does the man go for a curry? 8-)