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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Dan282 on 15 December 2014, 20:36:44

Title: lowering elite.
Post by: Dan282 on 15 December 2014, 20:36:44
2 out of the last 3 omegas ive had I have lowered. Is there  anything different with a 2003 elite suspension wise that may give me trouble.  ;)
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: VXL V6 on 15 December 2014, 20:47:51
Just need to disable the self levelling pump  :)
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: Dan282 on 15 December 2014, 20:49:32
Excellent. Mucho appreciated :)
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2014, 20:54:39
Personally I'd ditch self levellers and put either B4 or B6 shocks on.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: VXL V6 on 15 December 2014, 21:18:13
Personally I'd ditch self levellers and put either B4 or B6 shocks on.
I was sort of taking that as a given  :-[ I should never assume!  ;D

Self levellers can't take the drop of lowering springs (like Eibach -30mm) so will bottom out going full travel.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2014, 21:22:36
Personally I'd ditch self levellers and put either B4 or B6 shocks on.
I was sort of taking that as a given  :-[ I should never assume!  ;D

Self levellers can't take the drop of lowering springs (like Eibach -30mm) so will bottom out going full travel.
Having done it to one of mine, I wouldn't drop the rear by 30mm. 20mm max.  30mm is just too inconvenient.

Even so, still drop the levellers :y
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: VXL V6 on 15 December 2014, 21:34:23
Personally I'd ditch self levellers and put either B4 or B6 shocks on.
I was sort of taking that as a given  :-[ I should never assume!  ;D

Self levellers can't take the drop of lowering springs (like Eibach -30mm) so will bottom out going full travel.
Having done it to one of mine, I wouldn't drop the rear by 30mm. 20mm max.  30mm is just too inconvenient.

Even so, still drop the levellers :y

-30mm is absolutely fine....





....just make sure you have one thats -15mm for everyday use  :y
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: chrisgixer on 15 December 2014, 21:47:48
Settings not achievable below -20mm drop at the rear ime.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: 106pete on 16 December 2014, 08:53:01
Can you not just bend the rod into a new position so the self leveling still works, or do the shocks fully bottom out when lowered?
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: VXL V6 on 16 December 2014, 13:50:59
Can you not just bend the rod into a new position so the self leveling still works, or do the shocks fully bottom out when lowered?

The shocks will bottom out. best to pop some B4's on, cheaper and better than VX's LSC ones IMHO.

Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 16 December 2014, 14:42:08
Can recommend B4s... well, I will when they're here, anyway  :y. Ordered them from Balance Motorsport, they're winging their way over from Germany as we speak.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2014, 17:39:35
Can you not just bend the rod into a new position so the self leveling still works, or do the shocks fully bottom out when lowered?
The only reason for lowering is to take the wallow out. The self levellers are matches to the SL spring, and are not stiff enough, IMHO, to work with a stiffer spring.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 16 December 2014, 20:31:30
Can you not just bend the rod into a new position so the self leveling still works, or do the shocks fully bottom out when lowered?
The only reason for lowering is to take the wallow out. The self levellers are matches to the SL spring, and are not stiff enough, IMHO, to work with a stiffer spring.
Set of saloon plod springs here if you wish to test that theory... :y
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 December 2014, 23:42:31
Sl will work* with any rear springs.


*some peoples definition of working is very differant. They are very good at maintaining the correct ride height for load control.... ....but that where the good news ends sadly.


If you want quality damping, bin them and accept limited load capacity. If you want to carry stuff about, keep them and never let them go, but accept a lack of Independant damping side to side at the rear.

Ride height can be fiddled to match lowered springs. Although mine seemed to self adjust to lowered sports chassis springs. Yes. Odd I know. But there we are.
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 December 2014, 23:49:14
Settings not achievable below -20mm drop at the rear ime.

Can you not just bend the rod into a new position so the self leveling still works, or do the shocks fully bottom out when lowered?

The shocks will bottom out. best to pop some B4's on, cheaper and better than VX's LSC ones IMHO.


My post above assumes ride height not lower than -20mm. 5mm less than lsc mv6. Sl will work with mv6 lsc at -15mm and not bottom out.

But as you say, they almost certainly will at -30mm. (No personal experience, but I wouldn't)
Title: Re: lowering elite.
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 December 2014, 23:51:18
-30mm ok with b4 or lsc shocks on the front. Btw... :)