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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Shackeng on 18 December 2014, 17:32:26
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Son bought a S/H car on 1st December, it had a tax disc, (no V5), but as we know that is invalid when car sold. He sent off to DVLA for tax on 4th Dec. recorded delivery. He received his cheque back yesterday, on the 17th, with a letter dated 12th Dec, and the message, "we are unable to process the payment until we have issued the V5".????? So at the moment, having had the car for over two weeks, he is unable to drive it. Any suggestions... apart from sending a cruise missile to Swansea? >:( >:( >:(
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Tax it online ::)
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The problem is he has no new keeper certificate either, and as DVLA is showing the car is taxed until Feb '15, clearly the dealer has not notified DVLA either. As the dealer is also, spookily, in Swansea, I still think a cruise missile is the answer. Clearly son should have been given the new keeper slip by the dealer, however as this is torn off the V5 which, as the car had changed hands a few times very quickly, is lost somewhere, he has no chance. He tells me he has been jumping through all these hoops for the last two weeks.:(
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People seem loathe to actually ring DVLA. I've done it quite a few times and always found them helpful.
https://www.gov.uk/contact-the-dvla
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The problem is he has no new keeper certificate either, and as DVLA is showing the car is taxed until Feb '15, clearly the dealer has not notified DVLA either. As the dealer is also, spookily, in Swansea, I still think a cruise missile is the answer. Clearly son should have been given the new keeper slip by the dealer, however as this is torn off the V5 which, as the car had changed hands a few times very quickly, is lost somewhere, he has no chance. He tells me he has been jumping through all these hoops for the last two weeks.:(
Website will tell him what to do... worst case tax at post office with a V5 application form, rfl application form, MoT and Insurance certs... but do it before end of December to avoid being stung for keeping an un notified vehicle on the road.
Also do DVLA Vehicle check, as if it has a VIC marker, no V5 will be issued until that's done.
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The problem is he has no new keeper certificate either, and as DVLA is showing the car is taxed until Feb '15, clearly the dealer has not notified DVLA either. As the dealer is also, spookily, in Swansea, I still think a cruise missile is the answer. Clearly son should have been given the new keeper slip by the dealer, however as this is torn off the V5 which, as the car had changed hands a few times very quickly, is lost somewhere, he has no chance. He tells me he has been jumping through all these hoops for the last two weeks.:(
Website will tell him what to do... worst case tax at post office with a V5 application form, rfl application form, MoT and Insurance certs... but do it before end of December to avoid being stung for keeping an un notified vehicle on the road.
Also do DVLA Vehicle check, as if it has a VIC marker, no V5 will be issued until that's done.
Apparently you need the previous owners details to do this, and as the car had been through 3 or 4 dealers in the previous week or so these were not avlbl. ::)
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The problem is he has no new keeper certificate either, and as DVLA is showing the car is taxed until Feb '15, clearly the dealer has not notified DVLA either. As the dealer is also, spookily, in Swansea, I still think a cruise missile is the answer. Clearly son should have been given the new keeper slip by the dealer, however as this is torn off the V5 which, as the car had changed hands a few times very quickly, is lost somewhere, he has no chance. He tells me he has been jumping through all these hoops for the last two weeks.:(
Website will tell him what to do... worst case tax at post office with a V5 application form, rfl application form, MoT and Insurance certs... but do it before end of December to avoid being stung for keeping an un notified vehicle on the road.
Also do DVLA Vehicle check, as if it has a VIC marker, no V5 will be issued until that's done.
Apparently you need the previous owners details to do this, and as the car had been through 3 or 4 dealers in the previous week or so these were not avlbl. ::)
Tosh...
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=v62%20application%20form&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Fuploads%2Fsystem%2Fuploads%2Fattachment_data%2Ffile%2F360103%2FV62_220714.pdf&ei=S1yTVJekNsHOO7L_gMgB&usg=AFQjCNGht2OzCDMYdZ8CCoTts8FFJgzf9g&bvm=bv.82001339,d.ZWU :y
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If he has a receipt for the sale and its Mot'd and obviously still taxed, he can drive it as long as its insured...
He is the owner of the vehicle, so therefore the registered keeper in theory...
Id take the chance meself and drive it...
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If he has a receipt for the sale and its Mot'd and obviously still taxed, he can drive it as long as its insured...
He is the owner of the vehicle, so therefore the registered keeper in theory...
Id take the chance meself and drive it...
The tax disc expired at the first sale, assuming noone else taxed it since.
The car can be registered and taxed at the Post Office. No need to break the law, and to suggest such action is retarded, unless you're offering to pay the fines.
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If he has a receipt for the sale and its Mot'd and obviously still taxed, he can drive it as long as its insured...
He is the owner of the vehicle, so therefore the registered keeper in theory...
Id take the chance meself and drive it...
The tax disc expired at the first sale, assuming noone else taxed it since.
The car can be registered and taxed at the Post Office. No need to break the law, and to suggest such action is retarded, unless you're offering to pay the fines.
.. and also assuming one of the previous keepers bothered to send the slip to the DVLA!
If it's still showing up as taxed, it's taxed, so I'd drive it. It's not as if you haven't gone to significant hassle to try and pay it, after all.
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Filling in a V62 and a V10 will get it taxed and registered... Two birds one stone and postdate any previous keeper changes... There's trying and there's Trying...
Try harder ;)
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Filling in a V62 and a V10 will get it taxed and registered... Two birds one stone and postdate any previous keeper changes... There's trying and there's Trying...
Try harder ;)
Yeah, it is trying, you're right. How hard can they make it to buy a car? >:(
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People seem loathe to actually ring DVLA. I've done it quite a few times and always found them helpful.
https://www.gov.uk/contact-the-dvla
Yes I got hold of them this morning. Very helpful, and gave me the full story, they confirmed that despite the fact that son had - correctly - filled out V62 and applied for tax, as far as DVLA is concerned it is still registered to the previous owner, and until they either
1) receive the V5/3 Notification slip (from the bottom of V5)
2) receive a reply to their letter dated 12th Dec. to the registered owner confirming change of ownership.
or 3) two weeks have elapsed from the date of the letter from DVLA requesting confirmation.
It is not possible to tax it. >:(
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Filling in a V62 and a V10 will get it taxed and registered... Two birds one stone and postdate any previous keeper changes... There's trying and there's Trying...
Try harder ;)
Well, I'm afraid that DVLA don't agree with your suggestion Al. ???
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At risk of being argumentative, I have taxed and registered a car using that process...
Only two reasons for not being able to are either a VIC being required or no current Mot on file...
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I guess you've been lucky then, as DVLA were quite specific when I spoke to them this morning. ???
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sounds a bit of a 'mare . . . what does the dealer have to say ?
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As he got it from another dealer, who in turn got it it from yet another dealer, he falls back on the 'Data protection' excuse, saying they are unable to obtain the previous owners details! :(
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If the car came from a dealer or Trader and the car is 'in the Trade' you cannot Tax it Online (or Sorn it for that matter), you should b able to Tax it online using the New Keeper bit, but Ive since found out that under the new system, if the New Keeper Slip has been used before to Tax it and there is no change of Keeper since then (ie A New Keeper) that no longer works either.
Without the V5 best bet is to go to a Main Post Office (not a Sub'y) fill out a New Keeper Form and they should be able to Tax it there and then, the Post Office where given that new option when they closed all the DVLA Centres around the Country.
Having said all that, I taxed one of mine at a PO from Dec onwards and it still not on the System, so currently driving around with the PO Receipt stuck to the windscreen where the Tax Disc used to be, and yes been stopped twice so far. >:(
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The form in question takes all of a minute to fill in and requires the vehicle and new keeper details... If it is to replace a lost V5 then it costs £25 iirc, but any other reason is free.
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Shack has told you all wot DVLA said. Good enough for me. :-X
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It sounds as if it is going to be a nightmare buying second hand cars from traders, who often have cars for sale that have been through the hands of other traders........... :-\ :-\ Perhaps this is another, well intended, but not thought out change, may not have been so bad had the DVLA not closed all their local offices............. ::) ::) ::)