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Title: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Dukester on 31 December 2014, 15:10:09
Apologies I don't psot here often but to be honest the Omega has been great with no problems. So I was on my way home to start the New Year festivities and the car lost power steering. Alt light came on, and the temp gauge went up. Popped the bonnet and sure enough the drive belt was off.  Limped 1/4 mile back to work. Could this be a tensioner problem that caused the belt to come off or something else like a seized power steering pump, alternator, or something else? It's a 2002 Omega 2.6.

Appreciate any feedback from the experts

Dukester
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Andy B on 31 December 2014, 15:15:27
Apologies I don't psot here often but to be honest the Omega has been great with no problems. So I was on my way home to start the New Year festivities and the car lost power steering. Alt light came on, and the temp gauge went up. Popped the bonnet and sure enough the drive belt was off.  Limped 1/4 mile back to work. Could this be a tensioner problem that caused the belt to come off or something else like a seized power steering pump, alternator, or something else? It's a 2002 Omega 2.6.

Appreciate any feedback from the experts

Dukester

Hi ... and a belated welcome to the site

What are you like at sorting warped cylinder heads?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 December 2014, 15:25:52
Engine and ignition OFF, try and spin pullies by hand...

As you face it... Tensioner is top left, water pump top centre, top right is power steering and bottom right is AC. Bottom centre is crank pulley, you won't turn that by hand ;)

All should spin freely with no obvious play or roughness.

Any noise, roughness or obvious play is your point of problem... have a rummage and report back :y
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Dukester on 31 December 2014, 15:29:02
Taxi Al,

The WP is feels seized and the pully on the front is wobbling - could explain the noise I have for the last couple of weeks like a bearing going out. 

Many thanks to all

Dukester
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 December 2014, 15:30:38
Taxi Al,

The WP is feels seized and the pully on the front is wobbling - could explain the noise I have for the last couple of weeks like a bearing going out. 

Many thanks to all

Dukester
That be it... best get a new one... and might as well get the cambelt done at the same time ;)
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Dukester on 31 December 2014, 15:33:33
Taxi Al,

Many thanks again - cambelt done 10K ago

Dukester
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 December 2014, 15:54:36
Taxi Al,

Many thanks again - cambelt done 10K ago

Dukester
Two questions...
1. When and was the WP changed at the same time?
2. What is the mileage on the car?
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: robson on 31 December 2014, 16:24:55
10K but how many years between changes?
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: BazaJT on 31 December 2014, 18:16:21
Believe it's advised on here at 4years?No doubt someone will put me right on that if I'm in error!
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 December 2014, 18:32:32
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: VXL V6 on 31 December 2014, 19:13:58
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: omega3000 on 31 December 2014, 20:41:36
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.

Surly that would have cooked the engine  :-\
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: The Sheriff on 31 December 2014, 20:42:46
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.

Surly that would have cooked the engine  :-\
It may have. We'll see.
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Andy B on 31 December 2014, 20:57:05
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.

Surly that would have cooked the engine  :-\

Isn't that what I said #1? ;)
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: terry paget on 31 December 2014, 21:21:28
I've been there. On the way to my son's wedding reception at Dawlish Warren, 5 miles short of destination. Suddenly a strange noise, power steering went stiff, battery light came on, and engine temperature began to rise. I guesed auxiliary belt had gone. When temp went into the red I stopped, waited till it cooled down, did a mile more, allowed to cool again. Engine would not restart, so I walked the last three miles.

My cause was seized auxilairy belt tensioner pulley bearing, but any aux belt item bearing stiffening would have the same result. I had an alternator bearing on a Senator do a similar thing, with a similar result. Sounds like your water pump bearing has gone. Not end of world. Change the water pump and you are back on the road again.
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: omega3000 on 01 January 2015, 10:05:30
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.

Surly that would have cooked the engine  :-\

Isn't that what I said #1? ;)

 :-X ;)

I was doing 70 ish on the M6 and my aux pulley shattered wrapping the belt around every where  :o Luckily i was near an exit ramp and coasted to a halt . I wouldnt risk driving it at any distance after that breaks  :-\
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: terry paget on 01 January 2015, 11:49:04
I'm confused ::) ::) ::) ::)

If your DRIVE belt comes off then the engine will not turn over without the valves hiting the pistons, so "limping home" is not usually an option.

Unlikely then that your problem is the main drive belt but an auxilary belt. ;)
I think the fact that the coolant temp rose, the alternator charging lamp lit, the car lost power steering but the owner was able to drive the car should be enough to work out which belt is being discussed here.

Surly that would have cooked the engine  :-\

Isn't that what I said #1? ;)

 :-X ;)

I was doing 70 ish on the M6 and my aux pulley shattered wrapping the belt around every where  :o Luckily i was near an exit ramp and coasted to a halt . I wouldnt risk driving it at any distance after that breaks  :-\
Exactly what happened to me. It was dark, it was freezing, and the wedding party awaited my arrival. I hoped I could make it on the battery, but it overheated so fast I failed to. I locked the car in a layby at Starcross and strode briskly to Dawlish Warren. Wedding party was relieved to see me (my phone was out of battery) and the wedding breakfast could proceed.
I returned home in wife's car, collected tools and a spare belt, and returned to car. Found I could not repair it at the roadside, so had the AA relay it home.
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: zirk on 01 January 2015, 12:19:25
Took my Ex less than 5 mins to totally destroy the Engine on one of my Ex Plod V6 when the Water Pump Pulley throw the Aux belt.

By the time she was recovered off the M25 and I arrived to inspect the damage, there was no coolant left, HG's were cooked and Engine was turning over like someone had removed all the spark plugs.

Only thing left that was still working was a still fully charged battery  :(.   
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Shackeng on 01 January 2015, 12:45:26
Took my Ex less than 5 mins to totally destroy the Engine on one of my Ex Plod V6 when the Water Pump Pulley throw the Aux belt.

By the time she was recovered off the M25 and I arrived to inspect the damage, there was no coolant left, HG's were cooked and Engine was turning over like someone had removed all the spark plugs.

Only thing left that was still working was a still fully charged battery  :(.

And I bet she said, " A light came on and its making a funny noise, so I only drove it slowly" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: zirk on 01 January 2015, 13:01:38
Took my Ex less than 5 mins to totally destroy the Engine on one of my Ex Plod V6 when the Water Pump Pulley throw the Aux belt.

By the time she was recovered off the M25 and I arrived to inspect the damage, there was no coolant left, HG's were cooked and Engine was turning over like someone had removed all the spark plugs.

Only thing left that was still working was a still fully charged battery  :(.

And I bet she said, " A light came on and its making a funny noise, so I only drove it slowly" ;D ;D ;D
Close,

something like "Red Lights come on, but all is good", then me on the phone telling Her to stop the  Car and call recovery,

followed by "More lights have come on and its a bit sluggish now", me saying stop the Car now.

Next Phone call was, "Cant stop, Im on the M25, Oh hang on, ffs, its stopping of its own accord now".

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: omega3000 on 01 January 2015, 15:32:06
Took my Ex less than 5 mins to totally destroy the Engine on one of my Ex Plod V6 when the Water Pump Pulley throw the Aux belt.

By the time she was recovered off the M25 and I arrived to inspect the damage, there was no coolant left, HG's were cooked and Engine was turning over like someone had removed all the spark plugs.

Only thing left that was still working was a still fully charged battery  :(.

And I bet she said, " A light came on and its making a funny noise, so I only drove it slowly" ;D ;D ;D
Close,

something like "Red Lights come on, but all is good", then me on the phone telling Her to stop the  Car and call recovery,

followed by "More lights have come on and its a bit sluggish now", me saying stop the Car now.

Next Phone call was, "Cant stop, Im on the M25, Oh hang on, ffs, its stopping of its own accord now".

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Bet the block was cherry red  ;D
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 January 2015, 17:06:04
People have divorced for less....  :D
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: zirk on 01 January 2015, 21:47:56
People have divorced for less....  :D
Did I mention she was my Ex  ;D
Title: Re: Drive Belt Came Off - What a start to the New Year!
Post by: Shackeng on 01 January 2015, 22:14:32
Took my Ex less than 5 mins to totally destroy the Engine on one of my Ex Plod V6 when the Water Pump Pulley throw the Aux belt.

By the time she was recovered off the M25 and I arrived to inspect the damage, there was no coolant left, HG's were cooked and Engine was turning over like someone had removed all the spark plugs.

Only thing left that was still working was a still fully charged battery  :(.

And I bet she said, " A light came on and its making a funny noise, so I only drove it slowly" ;D ;D ;D
Close,

something like "Red Lights come on, but all is good", then me on the phone telling Her to stop the  Car and call recovery,

followed by "More lights have come on and its a bit sluggish now", me saying stop the Car now.

Next Phone call was, "Cant stop, Im on the M25, Oh hang on, ffs, its stopping of its own accord now".

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Classic! :y :y :y