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Title: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 11:16:22
Just come back from the main stealers,as I thought it was about time to get some new fobs as I have only the one original keyfob for each of the three cars and the one on the Elite has stopped working even after changing the battery on it,so it looks like it's fubared, so hence my reasoning to get some new ones as it's only a matter of time before I lose the one and only key.The cost of this exercise will be for the two cars without car passes £154.88 per car, and the other car with a pass £119.88 'KIN HELL!! :o close to £500 for three keys.Any one got any ideas how I can swerve this one and do it a bit cheaper as I do think that's a wee bit heavy.....I'm off to take a couple of Valium and have a lay down in a dark room 8 ::)
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: Andy B on 02 January 2015, 11:21:30
......The cost of this exercise will be for the two cars without car passes £154.88 per car, and the other car with a pass £119.88 'KIN HELL!! :o close to £500 for three keys. .....

If it's any consolation that £500 would only buy you two from Mercedes.  :(
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 02 January 2015, 11:26:03
Not sure if there's another route for the dreaded Car Pass... have a feeling the cost varies depending the mood of each individual stealer... as for keys, this cost can come down dramatically, the new fob, for starters can be got from a breakers as a freebie in your pocket, or off here for beer money, or ebay (in the form of slightly inferior quality, but perfectly good as a spare) for literally a few quid. Programming, your local keycutter / market stall that does phone unlocking, etc.. should be able to help. Have a feeling that there's two 'bits' ie: - the immobiliser 'bit', and the remote central locking 'bit' - the remote central locking function can go when you replace the battery, and can be easily reprogrammed by yourself inside the car, as per the manual. The immobiliser bit is the only 'specialist' element, but hardly advanced or difficult, these days, the design being approx 20 years old.

Ask around, independents should be able to do this a LOT cheaper. Seem to recall something like £30 when the old man had himself a spare made up?
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: Nick W on 02 January 2015, 11:44:36
The local locksmith we use charge about £70 a remote(mine was £60 a year ago), supplied, coded and working.  Genuine Delphi part, done while you wait with a Tech 2. Not having the carpass adds £10.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 12:32:13
Thanks Nick,that's worth exploring....I wouldn't mind parting with my hard earned if the guy at VX took his mask off and smiled while he was bending me over :o :-X
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: 4x4 on 02 January 2015, 12:34:52
Get keys cut locksmith,get some remotes of ebay ,get security codes from stealers and find some1 local with tech 2 and chuck them some beer tokens  :y
Got to be cheaper than £500
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 12:45:00
Many thanks for that.....definitely a plan forming with the advice being given so far :y
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2015, 14:03:15
Shop around for the carpass, other dealers may be cheaper ;)

For the programming side, you're not a million miles from that Kevin Wood fella ;)

Fob is around £25-30 for a 3 button one from dealer (trade), horseshoe with transponder is under a tenner from egay.

So should be about £35 for each key, tenner to program, £3-5 to mechanically cut (though some places won't cut keys they haven't supplied at vastly inflated prices :(), and around £20 per carpass.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 14:16:17
Thing is I don't have trade card and I'm not even sure that Eden's in Bracknell actually do deals......perhaps Aaron may know,breakdown of prices quoted from them this morning for one key......Sender £38.90, Ready cut key £61.00, Car pass £29.17 plus service with an attitude >:(
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: Nick W on 02 January 2015, 15:47:40
The saving is in the key then; a locksmith will cut a new one while you wait from a blank for a fraction of that cost.

The prices you quoted originally are why I wouldn't even consider going to a dealer.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 17:12:00
Got to agree,have been having a look around online,and there seems to be a fair amount of companies out there claiming to be  able to do most of what's needed.Possibly just need a personal recommendation from someone who has had a good job done :y
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: Nick W on 02 January 2015, 17:31:11
My recommendation won't help you much, especially for three cars, as they're in Gillingham.
Personally, I would get the key and remote etc from the same source to save a load of the faffing about that has been suggested.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 19:30:10
Some one suggested Timpsons as they supply the complete item and claim to be able to program the key as well ???
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: the alarming man on 02 January 2015, 20:21:31
My recommendation won't help you much, especially for three cars, as they're in Gillingham.
Personally, I would get the key and remote etc from the same source to save a load of the faffing about that has been suggested.


if you are going to say Medway security then err no....they will sub it to some oppsing self-abuser over in brentwood who like's nothing betting than stitching people up ::)
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 20:42:22
Won't be looking too far in all honesty Mark,will get it sorted locally with a bit of luck,looked on the bay of gay,a few second hand fobs on there but....it's like buying a twelve year Omega, a bit crusty round the edges ..... and on reflection, think I prefer something a bit newer so taking onboard what advice has been offered on here I think that's the plan :y
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: aaronjb on 02 January 2015, 20:45:11
Only just saw this - but Eden's in Bracknell are a TC dealer.. if you need any bits getting on TC just let me know and I can pop down there and pick stuff up no problem  :y

I struggled to find somewhere around here to cut the key though - in fact I gave up in the end.. Don't bother with Timpsons in town, they're more expensive than the dealer! ;D A small locksmiths ought to be able to do it, though.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 02 January 2015, 21:44:58
Many thanks Aaron,very strong possibility that it's going to be the less troublesome route to go down if it can be done straight with VX,will PM you as to when you're around as they will need certain items from me i.e V5's, ID and payment etc.
                           
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: robson on 03 January 2015, 10:30:59
I purchased a blank of fleebay and took it to Timpsons for cutting.He cut the key using my old key as pattern and then said no cost as he couldnt guarantee that it would work.It was perrfectly OK.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: the alarming man on 03 January 2015, 13:52:50
where is martin imber these days he did repair both my fobs.... has he equipment to program blanks?? :y
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: ted_one on 03 January 2015, 14:19:14
Funny you should mention him Mark....he's on that very well known auction site :-X saw it today, and his rates are much cheaper than all the other people doing key refurbs.Got a feeling that he only does the repair side,but think I can get the programming done on here at reasonable rates with a bit of luck. ;D
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 January 2015, 12:11:32
Martin Imber can replace the switches, fix battery holder problems and replace the rubbers (I believe with those nasty hard ones from ebay, going by the fobs I've seen that he's repaired).

I do not believe he has programming facilities, and even if he did, he'd need the car ;)


For key cutting, avoid the well known high street places and try backstreet independent coblers etc ;)
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: dbug on 05 January 2015, 00:46:33
Martin Imber can replace the switches, fix battery holder problems and replace the rubbers (I believe with those nasty hard ones from ebay, going by the fobs I've seen that he's repaired).

I do not believe he has programming facilities, and even if he did, he'd need the car ;)


For key cutting, avoid the well known high street places and try backstreet independent coblers etc ;)

Seller says these are genuine GM - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-FRONTERA-B-KEY-FOB-BUTTON-COVER-GENUINE-NEW-95-02-/151224585900?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2335b00eac (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-FRONTERA-B-KEY-FOB-BUTTON-COVER-GENUINE-NEW-95-02-/151224585900?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2335b00eac)

Got a pair of GM fob covers off egay a couple of years back for less than £3 ea - came in sealed GM bags complete with part no and hologram.
Title: Re: New remote keyfobs....some advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 January 2015, 17:23:19
Sorry, the 3 button fobs. Rare for 2 button ones to need fob replacing.