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Title: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 15:45:01
....when a fault has been bugging you for a while and you could not understand it.  Then you have a eureka moment while you calm down and realise how silly and obvious it was..... :-[

I installed a little PIR sensor for the light on the porch.  Fitted a 4th line so that I can over ride it with a switch.  All very simple and tested in twilight all ok.

Then it was constantly on every night regardless of the settings I tried.  During the day it functionned as it should (ie stay off) Convinced I had a duff PIR I was about to send it back for a replacement until I had a theory which I tested and proved correct.  So simple I nearly smacked my head against a wall.

What do you think was wrong?  Just for the record, the PIR and settings were completely fine.  Let's see how clever you are ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 January 2015, 16:32:34
It's that obvious, it's not worth mentioning ::)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 January 2015, 16:34:00
Switch was on the wrong side of the sensor... :-\
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Terbs on 05 January 2015, 16:37:09
I've read it, and re read it. turned it over in my head a dozen times. I am having to give up.........I don't know what a PIR is  ???
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 January 2015, 16:49:19
Need to remove the cellophane from the sensor  ;D

Thats also just a guess cos ive no idea what a PIR sensor is either  ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 17:00:15
PIR = Passive InfraRed sensor (although that might give it away ::))

The type that knows if you walk in front of it. :y
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 January 2015, 17:00:26
Passive infrared sensor.

Beat me to it! ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 17:00:57
Switch was on the wrong side of the sensor... :-\

Nope, wiring at the switch was fine as was the wiring at the PIR and the light.
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 January 2015, 17:01:40
Switch was on the wrong side of the sensor... :-\

Nope, wiring at the switch was fine as was the wiring at the PIR and the light.

Still obvious ::)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 17:11:21
Switch was on the wrong side of the sensor... :-\

Nope, wiring at the switch was fine as was the wiring at the PIR and the light.

Still obvious ::)

Clearly not ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: TheBoy on 05 January 2015, 17:16:56
The light (or a.n.other heat source) pointing towards it
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 January 2015, 17:56:37
Either next to porch light or boiler exhaust...
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: TheBoy on 05 January 2015, 18:18:55
I installed a little PIR sensor for the light on the porch.  Fitted a 4th line so that I can over ride it with a switch.  All very simple and tested in twilight all ok.

I thought virtually all PIRs had an override by turning on-off-on in quick succession
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: plym ian on 05 January 2015, 20:52:52
The pir wasnt connected to the light  ::) ::)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Entwood on 05 January 2015, 20:58:00
Plants, trees or bushes moving within the line-of-sight ??
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 January 2015, 21:07:07
Plants, trees or bushes moving within the line-of-sight ??
PIR = Passive InfraRed sensor (although that might give it away ::))

The type that knows if you walk in front of it. :y
There's a clue here somewhere, but I be buggered if I can see it...  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Entwood on 05 January 2015, 21:11:58
Possibly it wasn't passive .. it was loose and "blowing in the wind" ??? :)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 January 2015, 21:31:13
Possibly it wasn't passive .. it was loose and "blowing in the wind" ??? :)
The clue being 'infra red'  ;)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 21:42:38
Although no one has it spot on, the warmest is TB.

No movement i  the field of vision. No boiler exhaust. And the sensor is switching on the porch light so it cannot be that ;-)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 January 2015, 21:45:04
Not got a CCTV camera in the vicinity?
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Gaffers on 05 January 2015, 21:48:02
Not got a CCTV camera in the vicinity?

 :y :y

Hence why the fault only happens at night.....when the camera switches to night mode and switches on its IR LEDs.......trust me it took me a lot longer than you lot  ;D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 January 2015, 22:45:58
 :D
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: Auto Addict on 06 January 2015, 07:13:11
Not got a CCTV camera in the vicinity?

 :y :y

Hence why the fault only happens at night.....when the camera switches to night mode and switches on its IR LEDs.......trust me it took me a lot longer than you lot  ;D

Exactly my thoughts ::)
Title: Re: That moment......
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 January 2015, 08:21:53
What did you win?