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Title: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 January 2015, 18:07:28
Been roped in to making one of these for SWMBO  ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5WSII2SWiU

Nice little project before I take on the workbench (cant start that yet due to funds....or lack of)

I know hes TIG'ing his but obviously ill MIG mine.

Wonders if bear has spare oil filter housing lid thingy in garage. if so is that steel?
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 January 2015, 18:14:32

Wonders if bear has spare oil filter housing lid thingy in garage. if so is that steel?

Frayed knot Mr Bear, they're ally.  ;)
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 January 2015, 18:16:47
buggerin' buggertash!!!  ::)

ive got an old exhaust (as mrs don't want one as big as 4 inches in diameter  :o ;D ;D ;D) so I can use that for his body. any ideas for the face?
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: 4x4 on 05 January 2015, 18:57:09
I should have some iron pipe fitting in garage.
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 January 2015, 19:05:12
sweet thanks mate  :y
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: The Sheriff on 05 January 2015, 19:11:56
You won't forget to post a piccie of your effort will you, Mr Bear? So that we can laugh like fu congratulate you on your fine welding skills  :y
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 January 2015, 19:19:15
Haha! I shall do it Thursday STMO and get photos up asap..... then you can laugh all you want. I'm not very good at all. once I do I will enquire as to where EMD is with his guitar lessons!  ;D
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 January 2015, 20:22:29
You need steel not iron......
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 10:52:54
You need steel not iron......

If you used MIG in it's ''steel welding'' form and tried to weld alli or stainless.... what would happen?
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 January 2015, 11:09:56
Alli....fail.....miserably......stainless works, not pretty and strong but holds......iron....lol
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 11:16:47
 :y

What would it do though? The weld just slide off or summat?
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 January 2015, 11:18:30
Read somewhere that you can weld different materials, but requires different gasses :-\
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 11:26:10
You can weld stainless and alli with my welder but it would (i believe) involve changing the wire to flux core and switching the machines polarity.

i was just wondering what would happen if with my welder set to weld steel, what wud happen if i tried it on stainless, alli etc :)
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 January 2015, 11:29:53
:y

What would it do though? The weld just slide off or summat?

For alloy it farts coughs and creates shite without joining.

For Stainless it works but the joint is not neat or overly strong

For iron it just cracks off or cracks the entire work piece.
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 January 2015, 11:30:51
Read somewhere that you can weld different materials, but requires different gasses :-\

Techniques, filler and welding type need to change to.

So for alloy you need ideally TIG on AC

For Iron, high carbon rods on arc plus a lot of pre and post heating.

For stainless you need a stainless filler (wire on MIG) and ideally Argon shield gas
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 11:37:15
:y

What would it do though? The weld just slide off or summat?

For alloy it farts coughs and creates shite without joining.

For Stainless it works but the joint is not neat or overly strong

For iron it just cracks off or cracks the entire work piece.

 :y :y :y :y

cheers mate.
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: aaronjb on 07 January 2015, 12:17:36
I'd love an AC/DC TIG set to learn ally welding on (well, I'd probably go and get instruction somewhere and then use it, to be honest) - but the price is a little prohibitive unless you're doing a lot of it or doing it commercially :(
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 12:22:51
Guy on the net (chucky2009) has an Mig tig and stick all in one. are they available here?
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: henryd on 07 January 2015, 12:33:02
Guy on the net (chucky2009) has an Mig tig and stick all in one. are they available here?

Yep available here for much wonga :y
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 January 2015, 12:39:11
Oh dear,

Really fancied giving stick a go especially as i'm thinking of making some sturdy things.  :-X

Although for now i've just spied a bunch of steel frame in the waste bin @ work. Come 5pm thats mine for my table if it aint gone  8)
Title: Re: Welding Pigs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 January 2015, 13:47:54
Guy on the net (chucky2009) has an Mig tig and stick all in one. are they available here?

Yes, you can get a Chinese copy one for a few hundred but they are truly awful....although they don't have MIG but will do ARC