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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Varche on 07 January 2015, 13:23:27

Title: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Varche on 07 January 2015, 13:23:27
First off, I am not very good with car electrics. !

The vehicle is a Suzuki Vitara but I am guessing faulting is very similar across vehicles.

Last used the car on Saturday. It was fine. Went to use it last night and turned the ignition key and no lights on the dashboard. No dull click or anything with starter.

The car has what I thought a few months ago was a primitive code panel that operated just the fuel pump. It actually is an immobiliser as well. It lights up but even when the code(666?) is input the red light stays on even though the green is now on. In the past the ignition lights come on regardless of whether you have input the code and you can crank the engine but without the code doesn't start.

Interior light works but very feebly.

I have had the battery on charge overnight with no success. It went to rapid charge and this morning settled down to normal charging suggesting the battery is taking charge. Still no dash lights. However having tried ignition key the battery charger went to standby mode. Battery terminals look tight enough.

I do have :
1. A digital multimeter DT-830B (but don't know how to use it!) I set it to 20 DCV and it showed -1 on scale before and during prodding the battery terminals
2. A spare battery with some charge . Perhaps the battery has got a collapsed cell. I'll try jump leads across to my spare battery now.
3. Home breakdown recovery. That will pose me huge logistical problems though if/when I have our only car taken away.

Thanks in anticipation
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Varche on 07 January 2015, 14:37:29
Think I have sorted it.

The spare battery was nearly flat but puts the lights on the ignition but not enough juice for anything else. So I will charge it up and see if swapping will do the job. I am assuming the fitted battery has failed.

Multi meter is tatered. It reads minus one conected or not connected.
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: zirk on 07 January 2015, 14:42:16
Think I have sorted it.

The spare battery was nearly flat but puts the lights on the ignition but not enough juice for anything else. So I will charge it up and see if swapping will do the job. I am assuming the fitted battery has failed.

Multi meter is tatered. It reads minus one conected or not connected.
Check or replace the battery in the multimeter.

Obviously dont use the multi meter to check it  ::)
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 January 2015, 14:45:37
Sounds like the first battery is toast... :-\
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 January 2015, 15:20:45
Sounds like the first battery is toast... :-\

Yep, they do fail suddenly, and completely, from time to time.
Title: Re: No ignition lights , Peugeot Diesel HDi Glow plug relay?
Post by: Varche on 08 January 2015, 18:02:49
Well I don't think it is the battery.

Charged up my spare, put it on and dash lights come on as does a chattering clunk thump clunk thumping from the Glow Plugs relay. maybe that stuck on and discharged the battery.

Identical to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-2-0-HDI-8B-PEUGEOT-406-GLOW-PLUG-RELAY-9639912580-51299011A-/400732454386?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d4d83fdf2

All beyond me. I can't wait to get one posted to me, can't get to a scrap yard so in the morning I will have it towed on my (thank goodness) home included breakdown recovery.
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2015, 11:58:44
Sorted amazingly it was just battery failure. Breakdown guy had to use both his portable battery pack and my jump leads onto his vehicle too.

I am one happy bunny, can get some shopping in now!
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Nick W on 09 January 2015, 15:40:31
Sorted amazingly it was just battery failure. Breakdown guy had to use both his portable battery pack and my jump leads onto his vehicle too.

I am one happy bunny, can get some shopping in now!

You should start by charging down to the battery shop.
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2015, 18:35:56
I did and the breakdown guy followed me just in case I stalled.
Title: Re: No ignition lights , any ideas please?
Post by: Mr Gav on 10 January 2015, 09:52:46
Sorted amazingly it was just battery failure. Breakdown guy had to use both his portable battery pack and my jump leads onto his vehicle too.

I am one happy bunny, can get some shopping in now!

You should start by charging down to the battery shop.

Was that deliberate  ;D