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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 January 2015, 10:48:32
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As per title - when running on the drive the smell of petrol is getting pretty extreme, and after a quick inspection, the old girl has a small weep at one of the joins right near the fuel filter - assuming one of these pipes is now in need of replacement, what are my options, please?
Due to the car not being moved properly in so many years, I'm basically leaping to the conclusion that the lines are just getting near their end, rather than for instance 'a jubilee clip needing a nipping up', or similar. It's either this, or the plate on top of the tank that's corroded. The boot's full to the brim of spares, at present, so will take a bit of clearing tonight to 'remove this from my enquiries'!!
A few months back a fellow OOFer was after some as I recall; I offered the good pipes off the 37k model at the scrappy, but on finding out how cheap new pipes could be got for, we all agreed it wasn't worth my while getting the used pipes for him, so thinking/hoping they're not massively expensive?
Thanks in advance to any OOFers who've had petrol whiff issues!
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4 inches of ISO7840 marine fuel hose of a suitable ID, four stainless hose clips of an equally suitable size...
Job jobbed :y
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That may have been me I think, as above I got some from the chandlers at Cobbs Quay - less than £5 I think.
Steve
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Rings a bell, merci, gentlemen. :)
Still trying to visualise the design of the Omegas fuel lines/how many sections. Looking at the parts catalogue it still looks like there's just one long length running from the top of the tank to the front wheelarch. Or am I missing the point - you're suggesting replacing a 4 inch section of the fuel line, Taxi Al? :)
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In a word...
If it's an inline connection, then use three hose clips either side of the join, if it's the filter connection then two either side :y
Do not use it as a bandage though. Also without a reliable method of securing it to the floorpan it isn't suitable for long runs... Technically, it's perfect, but in reality it will sag unless supperted every 4-6" :y
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Rings a bell, merci, gentlemen. :)
Still trying to visualise the design of the Omegas fuel lines/how many sections. Looking at the parts catalogue it still looks like there's just one long length running from the top of the tank to the front wheelarch. Or am I missing the point - you're suggesting replacing a 4 inch section of the fuel line, Taxi Al? :)
Your epc is misleading...
1 x section from tank connection to filter.
1 x section from filter to floor.
1 x section along floor.
1 x section from floor to fuel rail inlet pipe.
1 x section from fuel rail outlet to floor.
1 x section along floor.
1 x section from floor to tank connection.
What you're seeing might be the vapour line from the tank breather to the carbon canister behind the osf wheel arch liner (bolts to the A post :y)...
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Here do...
http://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/marine-petrol--diesel-fuel-hose-a1--a2-iso-7840-92-c.asp :y
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Very much appreciated. I was a little concerned when you were directing me to a website called 'advancedfluidsolutions' - I thought you'd heard a rumour about me :o :y
It's not massively clear - I'd have thought that separate sections would be shown as an exploded type diagram, really, but this is the image I was working off. Not clear, to be honest. Wanted to have a nosey in a scrap car yesterday, but there were non up in the air when I went in on my dinner hour. Your explanation has made it clearer in my head, so thanks :y
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm240/leflemmy/Capture_zpsmpmqzvbc.jpg)
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Very much appreciated. I was a little concerned when you were directing me to a website called 'advancedfluidsolutions' - I thought you'd heard a rumour about me :o :y
It's not massively clear - I'd have thought that separate sections would be shown as an exploded type diagram, really, but this is the image I was working off. Not clear, to be honest. Wanted to have a nosey in a scrap car yesterday, but there were non up in the air when I went in on my dinner hour. Your explanation has made it clearer in my head, so thanks :y
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm240/leflemmy/Capture_zpsmpmqzvbc.jpg)
Just you wait 'til Stemo hears about your advanced fluid... ::)
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Rings a bell, merci, gentlemen. :)
Still trying to visualise the design of the Omegas fuel lines/how many sections. Looking at the parts catalogue it still looks like there's just one long length running from the top of the tank to the front wheelarch. Or am I missing the point - you're suggesting replacing a 4 inch section of the fuel line, Taxi Al? :)
Your epc is misleading...
1 x section from tank connection to filter.
1 x section from filter to floor.
1 x section along floor.
1 x section from floor to fuel rail inlet pipe.
1 x section from fuel rail outlet to floor.
1 x section along floor.
1 x section from floor to tank connection.
What you're seeing might be the vapour line from the tank breather to the carbon canister behind the osf wheel arch liner (bolts to the A post :y)...
Suspect this is the section I want. Mainly because it's clearly the easiest to replace ;)
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I was in a shop looking at brake parts once, and the bloke at the counter explained how the kit "comes with a banjo" I asked "wouldn't playing a musical instrument be quite tricky at that precise moment?" He didn't seem to get the joke ::)
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Rings a bell, merci, gentlemen. :)
Still trying to visualise the design of the Omegas fuel lines/how many sections. Looking at the parts catalogue it still looks like there's just one long length running from the top of the tank to the front wheelarch. Or am I missing the point - you're suggesting replacing a 4 inch section of the fuel line, Taxi Al? :)
Your epc is misleading...
91 x section from tank connection to filter.
7 1 x section from filter to floor.
11 x section from floor to fuel rail inlet pipe.
61 x section from fuel rail outlet to floor.
21 x section along floor.
41 x section from floor to tank connection.
What you're seeing might be the vapour line from the tank breather to the carbon canister behind the osf wheel arch liner (bolts to the A post :y)...
Suspect this is the section I want. Mainly because it's clearly the easiest to replace ;)
List corrected to reflect epc... note 4 and 9 are 5 and 10 respectively on the estate. Vapour line not shown in your link :y
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Will have me a little look, and see what I can find, then :) Thanks for the clarification. :)
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If it's leaking from the pipe after the filter, just be aware that the leak could well be from the filter connection itself and running down the pipe :y
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Yep, I'm aware that a potential cause is the plate which sits on top of the fuel tank which (correct me if I'm wrong) is about the only steel part in the whole fuel line, and is known for corroding? Causing, as you say, fuel to run down the pipe. The smell is fairly pungent, which leads me to think that the small amount of 'damp' at the join can't cause all that smell, there has to be a larger leak elsewhere. I know petrol is pretty smelly stuff, but the car's outside, and I've lost about 5 litres in the last few months of driveway idling/reving, which is quite a lot. :o
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Top plate won't leak fuel down the pipe as the pipes run vertically for about an inch from the top plate...
Plate condition can easily be checked by removing the plate in the boot floor :y
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If it's leaking from the pipe after the filter, just be aware that the leak could well be from the filter connection itself and running down the pipe :y
Hopefully looking at a low-cost fix then :)
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Ideally, you'll want that pipe slightly undersized, five minutes in near boiling water will help to fit it over the fuel pipe :y
At the filter end, you'll need a clip either side of the flange to be sure it's secure... but at £4 a meter, it should be a cheap fix :y