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Title: The great car con
Post by: The Sheriff on 26 January 2015, 18:55:37
CH4, 8 o'clock, tonight. How we were conned over diesel.
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 26 January 2015, 19:19:18
I'll watch that ta  :y
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 January 2015, 19:41:03
CH4, 8 o'clock, tonight. How we were conned over diesel.

I have never understood the race to derv.

They have no soul and are devoid of passion.

They are purely about economy.

A 4500 RPM redline while sounding like a cement mixer does nothing for me*



* Apologies to all the derv lovers here at OOF. :y

Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 January 2015, 20:32:39
I'm looking for a cheap oil burner

From tomorrow morning there should be plenty for sale. :)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 January 2015, 20:32:50
I'm now looking for a cheap oil burner

From tomorrow morning there should be plenty for sale. :)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 January 2015, 20:51:26
I'm looking for a cheap oil burner

From tomorrow morning there should be plenty for sale. :)

Central heating packed up? ;D
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: 78bex on 26 January 2015, 22:57:37
To be fair the makers are addressing  all the problems assocated with the junk that diesel engines spew out. Just the other day I was behind a Mercedes & very nice too with it`s BLU TAC badge on the boot lid.  ;D
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 27 January 2015, 06:30:12
I noticed at no stage during the program, viewers were advised to rush out and buy a petrol car  ::)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: AndyRoid on 27 January 2015, 08:37:52
I have never understood the race to derv.

They have no soul and are devoid of passion.

They are purely about economy.

A 4500 RPM redline while sounding like a cement mixer does nothing for me*



* Apologies to all the derv lovers here at OOF. :y
On diesels of 20 years I would agree with you, but today's offerings are a lot different.

My brother had a 3 litre XF Twin Turbo that was an absolute animal when the right foot was planted, and hitting the speed limiter (155 mph) was very easily done if you wanted it. Combine that with the ridiculous amount of torque it developed and it was a dangerous car in the wrong hands (even more so with the computer in race mode).

As for hearing it, it was moderately difficult to tell it was a diesel from the outside and impossible to tell from the inside.
Granted it was an expensive car when he bought it (£38K @ 1 year old) so you would expect those sort of refinements, the cheaper end of the market is probably still a different story though.
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 January 2015, 08:42:59
To be fair the makers are addressing  all the problems assocated with the junk that diesel engines spew out. Just the other day I was behind a Mercedes & very nice too with it`s BLU TAC badge on the boot lid.  ;D

Its not possible

The 'blue' only tells you it injects piss into the exhaust to reduce NOx, they still lob out particulates (although the larger ones get trapped in the DPF which then get burnt off).

But the bottom line is, they are cheap to run if you do the mileage.
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: AndyRoid on 27 January 2015, 08:50:15
What was that you were saying Opti?  ;D ;D

(http://www.bonkerz.co.uk/oof/jag.jpg)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 January 2015, 10:17:34
One of my Omegas will do that at a 38th of the price... ;D

I'll say one of them, as the other one doesn't have a proper engine ::)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: AndyRoid on 27 January 2015, 10:31:45
One of my Omegas will do that... ;D
I didn't know you lived near Beachy Head Al  ;D

Seriously though, it was a lovely motor that I had the pleasure of using but boy was it a money pit.
A full (12,000 mile at Jaguar) service along with 4 boots came to just over £2K  :o :o
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 January 2015, 11:00:00
One of my Omegas will do that at a 38th of the price... ;D

I'll say one of them, as the other one doesn't have a proper engine
::)

Ah...the curse of the four pot. ;D
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 January 2015, 11:03:21
What was that you were saying Opti?  ;D ;D

(http://www.bonkerz.co.uk/oof/jag.jpg)

I didn't say they were slow or lacking in torque, Andy. However, I still think  diesel in best suited to lorries .

Sorry chaps. :-X ;)

Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 January 2015, 11:22:04
14.2 mpg at 150 ish isn't to be sniffed at 8)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 28 January 2015, 07:30:14
14.2 mpg at 150 ish isn't to be sniffed at 8)

Ummm that says AVE FUEL not INS FUEL  ::) ;)
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Varche on 28 January 2015, 08:47:46
I hired a car in the Uk recently and got a 2.0 diesel Bluemotion Passat. Excellent car. Fast, nice to drive and even so economical (over 60mpg). 177bhp I think.

A few days ago , I visited my "garage" here in Spain and a guy pulled in with the same engined Golf. I admired it but after it had gone the owner said "too complicated, expensive to fix". That was my view of the Passat in years to come for some sucker.
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: AndyRoid on 28 January 2015, 10:59:25
14.2 mpg at 150 ish isn't to be sniffed at 8)
I didn't bother measuring the actual fuel used Al, but I suspect with the weight of the car plus the speed involved that the real fuel consumption was in single figures at that point  ;)

My brother & I once did a trip from his place in Orpington to my daughters in Leicester (using sensible throttle movements) and we averaged between 80-90mph (pretty much motorway from door to door) and that took £45 to do, which was quite impressive as Rhonda's Grand C-Max needed £40 to go from Aldershot to Leicester and that has the crappy 1.6 HDi lump that apparently self destructs at around the 60,000 mile mark.
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: EMD on 28 January 2015, 14:46:56
Interesting how cars are taped up ect to pass the efficiency test or what ever it was  :-\ Soot chucking engines .. how on earth could that be bad for us to breathe in  ::) And worse if your actually inside the car  :o
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2015, 16:05:07
I've just read this.

Residents living in the north London borough of Islington, who own diesel cars, are to pay a £96 surcharge to park their cars in the street where they live.

This only applies to soot chuckers.

The new charges will be implemented in April 2015.

This extra charge is in addition to the existing residential parking fees of £434. :o :o
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2015, 16:15:26
London never ceases to amaze me.

First you pay ridiculous money for some godless rundown hovel.Then to add insult to injury you are expected to park your £100,000 Mercedes, Porsche or BMW in the fooking road.....for some passing scroat to damage. :(

 
Title: Re: The great car con
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2015, 22:06:48
It seems just a few short few years ago we were all told that diesels were going to save the Earth with their low carbon figures.

Now it seems  they are public enemy number one.