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Title: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 17 February 2015, 08:31:56
would anyone know ?

Vauxhall Omega 2001-2001 Facelift Heaslights are compatible with Cadillac Catera and fit ?
just a question.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 09:03:20
As far as I'm aware they were changed at the same time - so a >'00 Omega headlamp will fit an 00> Catera, and 00> Omega fts a 00> Catera. As for wiring I can't say whether it'd be a simple plug n play. As for actual EU-US differences, I'm not sure what you'd be gaining. Have a feeling that some Catera versions have in very small writing the word 'xenon' on them, which is cool, if barely visible.

This link gives some info, might be useful to what you're wanting

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/165235-ultimate-headlight-thread-xenon-halogen.html (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/165235-ultimate-headlight-thread-xenon-halogen.html)

Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2015, 09:17:40
 Not forgetting that America drives on the other side of the road so the dip beam will be wrong.  ::)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 09:21:00
This also , haha! :y

Right - I know of it on some cars - but does the FL headlamp have a little piece of wire that you flip/clip and this moves the beam over? I may have dreamt it for the Omega, but sure I've seen this on one car or another.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2015, 09:28:56
This also , haha! :y

Right - I know of it on some cars - but does the FL headlamp have a little piece of wire that you flip/clip and this moves the beam over? I may have dreamt it for the Omega, but sure I've seen this on one car or another.

There's a lever to cut off the upsweep to the left, but it just leaves a symmetrical flat beam ..... it doesn't make it a LHD headlamp.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 17 February 2015, 09:42:58
seen it on pictures.
they look more modern and apparently full hid.
low and high beam.
guess i have to start investigating if the fir/suit lhd.

they defo cheaper as omega lights.

althought seen opel omega led/hig lights.
looking as they come from a brandnew audi or bmw or so.
very updated but they about 247 euro each and only rhd.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 10:00:16
This also , haha! :y

Right - I know of it on some cars - but does the FL headlamp have a little piece of wire that you flip/clip and this moves the beam over? I may have dreamt it for the Omega, but sure I've seen this on one car or another.

There's a lever to cut off the upsweep to the left, but it just leaves a symmetrical flat beam ..... it doesn't make it a LHD headlamp.

Thanks Andy B, that must have been what I was thinking about. So presumably for 'continental driving', not full RHD but 'enough for a holiday' sort of thing?
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 February 2015, 10:21:16
seen it on pictures.
they look more modern and apparently full hid.
low and high beam.
guess i have to start investigating if the fir/suit lhd.

they defo cheaper as omega lights.

althought seen opel omega led/hig lights.
looking as they come from a brandnew audi or bmw or so.
very updated but they about 247 euro each and only rhd.
US construction and use regs different to ours... All EU stuff must be either specifically type approved or E marked... Could cause insurance issues, not to mention actually being illegal :y
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 10:24:35
seen it on pictures.
they look more modern and apparently full hid.
low and high beam.
guess i have to start investigating if the fir/suit lhd.

they defo cheaper as omega lights.

althought seen opel omega led/hig lights.
looking as they come from a brandnew audi or bmw or so.
very updated but they about 247 euro each and only rhd.

And to just analyse what you're saying ckz... I'm not sure how well you know you're Omegas.

Low and hi-beam - I thought all cars had them? Dipped and main beam lights, aren't they?
If you're comparing early Omega lights with the Catera ones, then yes, the Catera ones do 'look better' But the Catera was only introduced in 1997, and in 1997 all Omegas got the new clear-type lenses on the Mini-facelift (MFL as we call it) which are the same as Catera ones. I saw a set of lenses sell for about £20 including postage a few days ago, so not sure how cheap Catera ones are, but they'd have to be pretty cheap. Also as stated by Andy B, Catera ones will be for LHD only. Vauxhalls, Opels and Cadillac Cateras were all fitted with HID/Xenons, it's not just a Cadillac thing, so don't thinkyou have to import Cadillac lights simply to get Xenons. A set of Xenons, including alloy adjusters sold on here for under £100 I believe, a few days ago.

Hope that's cleared up a few things.  :)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 17 February 2015, 15:00:45
is not about needing new lights.
i seen them and liked the style of it.
therefore i enquired.

i defo like the led drl lights integrated in it.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 15:13:27
Ok. Which do you prefer A or B, please?  :)

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm240/leflemmy/lamps_zpsbehmqfad.jpg)

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 February 2015, 15:16:20
Can I abstain?  ::)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 February 2015, 15:18:22
By all means..  :) One of them is Cadillac Catera, one of them is Omega. I suppose it's 'place your bets gentlemen!' time :)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 February 2015, 15:23:10
Lower one is not the Catera one ;)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 17 February 2015, 17:17:25
well, that's right. none of them is catera. at least not the one i have with the car on the picture.

the one i seen have led light strip integrated for Day Driving Lights DRL, and  a lot more clear then both of them.
i can't upload this picture but looking at it, zoomed in, both bulbs are hid.

so, if this are the standard options for omega and catera, the one i have on this picture must be from some other car, or special modification. something like that.

the full hid compatible lights and the lightstrip as drl was what caught my eye in the first place.
i don't think i like the car itself, although i usualy like the usa cars loads more then eu cars.


Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 February 2015, 17:20:27
The Catera is an Omega ::) designed and built at the same single plant at Russelheim, Germany :y

It may well zig, but the only American things about the Catera are the chromed alloys and decent cupholders ;D
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Nick W on 17 February 2015, 18:50:53
Is there a difference between A&B other than about 15 years use?
A looks like mine before I sanded and polished them; B is the result.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: elvin315 on 18 February 2015, 02:42:30
This is my 2001 Catera Sport. All Sports have HID D2S Zenon lowbeams with H7 highbeams. Standard Cateras have Halogen H1 lowbeams with H7 highbeams. The cutoff is different over here due to our penchant for wronghand drive (LHD). Whether you can convert them to RHD is moot. Catera lights won't pass your MOT without the required markings. Maybe converting the Omega lights to accept the Catera's HID guts might work but not being familiar with your MOT I really can't advise.

(http://m1.i.pbase.com/g9/69/14969/2/159167071.9758T2S7.jpg)
PS: Forgive the splattering of bug guts. That's just summer in Upstate New York.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 18 February 2015, 08:24:35
Thanks.
the picture i have has complete different Headlights.
so this clarifys the fact they not original catera Lights then.

That's why we have the confusion.
i try to upload the Picture but it says about copyrights and unable to do so.
maybe i find a way to find out somehow what Lights are in this one then.

Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 18 February 2015, 08:58:51
Yep. Sorry but in the picture I added - the Catera lighter were 'A' and the Omega lights are 'B' - as Taxi Al spotted, so 5 points to Taxi Al.  :)

As you say, you must have seen some other lights fitted - possibly the Depo lights. Also they never had DRL fitted in the cluster, so these would be an aftermarket.

No problem, asking is how we learn.  :)
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2015, 13:04:47
Quote
All Sports have HID D2S Xenon lowbeams with H7 highbeams. Standard Cateras have Halogen H1 lowbeams with H7 highbeams.
Exactly the same bulbs as every other Omega :y
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Andy B on 18 February 2015, 14:56:43
Thanks.
the picture i have has complete different Headlights.
so this clarifys the fact they not original catera Lights then. .....

I remember there being pictures posted ages back of a Catera who's owner (can't now remember who) had fitted leds in the bottom of his headlamps ala Audi do
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 18 February 2015, 22:46:33
is a white catera, full spoiler kit, dark lense and  looks like full HID Lights, not the projector lights / hid  my omega has, with led's going on the bottom up on the side dividing indicators from it.
indicator yellow ledes.
very strange assemble but looks cool.
the lights looking a bit blue while on. so expect fully hid 6000k or above.
plus the round element what bmw has is in them too, which can be switched as sidelights.

still trying to find any info so i may find out who made them.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: elvin315 on 19 February 2015, 04:44:52
I remember there being pictures posted ages back of a Catera who's owner (can't now remember who) had fitted leds in the bottom of his headlamps ala Audi do

The owner was CateraMV6. I say was because he has since sold the car. If I find a thread showing the installation of the LEDs I'll post the link.

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab263/MV6Catera/BEAUTY%20Shots/DSC03774.jpg)

PS: Don't let the plate or Opel badge fool you. His goal was to return his Catera to its Omega roots.
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 19 February 2015, 15:09:23
thats looks similar. :D
if you find the post - yes please.
Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Andy B on 19 February 2015, 15:32:49
.....

The owner was CateraMV6.  .....

That was him .....

Thanks  :y
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: elvin315 on 19 February 2015, 18:44:48
Not exactly a step by step tutorial but there are really good pictures of the LEDs.

http://cateraowners.forumotion.com/t115-2k1-ccs-retrofit-w-fx-r-50w-ddm-dl50-r8-led#424

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab263/MV6Catera/FX-R%20Catera/DSC03740.jpg)

Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 20 February 2015, 09:02:05
That link is a practically definitive description of how to modify the Omega headlights. Good find  :y
Title: Re: Parts compatibel ?
Post by: ckz on 20 February 2015, 09:05:43
 :y
yes. found it after 1 hour search. lol

Thanks.

this looks similar, but how would the round led's over the bulbs fit without influence the actually low or high beam lights?

the one i seen have them leds like that, low beam /  high beam and over the actually bulbs round ones attached.
the one you usualy see on the bmw's.

i guess that's selfmade ones too then.
in the case above, the lights need to be taken apart to do it, where the problem comes onto it -
not easy. ha ha  :-\

the one above looking good, but i think my tinkering experience with that is not good enough. to go on the risk of damaging the whole light. ha ha

and also out of experience - them led's don't hold long, so after maybe 2-3 month the will need to be replaced which is too much hassle.
would be cool getting such style lights from a shop ready to fit.' ::)