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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Rods2 on 22 February 2015, 16:12:40
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Worth reading:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102442785 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102442785)
Three of Russia's major geopolitical goals at the moment are:
1. Creating divisions between US and EU, which is why sanctions against Russia have been done on an agreed by both parties. US has wanted to go much further than EU who are constrained by their dependency on Russian Gas.
2. Create divisions in EU unity by funding political parties sympathetic to Putin and Russia like Le Pens party in France, and cultivating close ties with the coalition in Greece and other Eastern European countries, especially Hungary, Czech Republic and Serbia.
3. Create political divisions in NATO and ruin it's credibility. Obama is actively helping Putin with this where he has not upheld (along with UK), in spirit, the Budapest Memorandum and Poland already believes that if attacked the US won't come to their or other European country's rescue, especially the Baltics. The rapid reaction force being put together by NATO is all European, Germany is already painting more broomsticks black in readiness!
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Yea, the Ruski's do seem to be testing the water (or pushing their luck) at the moment.
:( :( >:(
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Putin won't be happy until he has his buffer to the west of Russia.
I've said it before and i'll say it again, the soft pacifist government's of Europe are in for a nasty surprise over the next 10 or 20 years because the "cold war" never finished :(
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Loads of low flying bombers over here this morning , thought something was going off :(
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Loads of low flying Russian bombers over here again this morning , thought something was going off :(
fixed that.
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More reading!
Now the EU affairs Committee of the House of Lords states that the EU were sleepwalking into the Ukranian crisis and lacking basic analytical skills regarding Russia. A diplomatic way of saying they ucked up.
Here is the full report, 123 pages but the summary is revealing and is only a page and a bit. starts Page six.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/ldeucom/115/115.pdf
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More reading!
Now the EU affairs Committee of the House of Lords states that the EU were sleepwalking into the Ukranian crisis and lacking basic analytical skills regarding Russia. A diplomatic way of saying they ucked up.
Here is the full report, 123 pages but the summary is revealing and is only a page and a bit. starts Page six.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/ldeucom/115/115.pdf
That was on the news last Wednesday.
What is this? Lets all shit ourselves over Russia week? Do you actually think that members of a car forum have any real idea of what's going on? ;D
Have another werthers ffs. ::)
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More reading!
Now the EU affairs Committee of the House of Lords states that the EU were sleepwalking into the Ukranian crisis and lacking basic analytical skills regarding Russia. A diplomatic way of saying they ucked up.
Here is the full report, 123 pages but the summary is revealing and is only a page and a bit. starts Page six.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/ldeucom/115/115.pdf
That was on the news last Wednesday.
What is this? Lets all shit ourselves over Russia week? Do you actually think that members of a car forum have any real idea of what's going on? ;D
Have another werthers ffs. ::)
Dont think anybody would know whats hit them if it all kicked off :(
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Whatever happened to Rods1, I wonder?
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Morphed into the new and improved Rods2 ;D
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roll on version 3 :P ;D
:-*
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More reading!
Now the EU affairs Committee of the House of Lords states that the EU were sleepwalking into the Ukranian crisis and lacking basic analytical skills regarding Russia. A diplomatic way of saying they ucked up.
Here is the full report, 123 pages but the summary is revealing and is only a page and a bit. starts Page six.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/ldeucom/115/115.pdf
That was on the news last Wednesday.
What is this? Lets all shit ourselves over Russia week? Do you actually think that members of a car forum have any real idea of what's going on? ;D
Have another werthers ffs. ::)
They are quite a few ex military and I suspect a few who still get paid for there services on this car forum.
Also some of us still keep up contact with friends who are still serving there country so in a word, the answer is yes ;)
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well for the sake of the govt to love everyone even you're worst enemy we got rid of rockets and forces.
the russian seemed never got rid of there weapons or there forces, so yes they far better then then the rest of the world.
see ukraine.
they dont love anybody they just go into a war.
Time the govt around the eu start thinking the world will never exist in a peacefull world.
just look around.
isis
russia
korea
africa
get the weapon tec up to scratch and stock the forces up, that all i can say.
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well for the sake of the govt to love everyone even you're worst enemy we got rid of rockets and forces.
the russian seemed never got rid of there weapons or there forces, so yes they far better then then the rest of the world.
see ukraine.
they dont love anybody they just go into a war.
Time the govt around the eu start thinking the world will never exist in a peacefull world.
just look around.
isis
russia
korea
africa
get the weapon tec up to scratch and stock the forces up, that all i can say.
:y
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Whatever happened to Rods1, I wonder?
Same thing that took Chrisgixer possibly ::) ;)
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Whatever happened to Rods1, I wonder?
Same thing that took Chrisgixer possibly ::) ;)
I could say it's tough being a time lord, where we have to keep morphing into the next one or take STMO's advice of the day (did I just say that :-[ :o :o :o) and come clean. When I originally registered on the website I never got a successful registration email, Rods was then taken on the system and I was then caught in an OOF parallel universe, space time-warp continuum. Ie without being able to confirm the account and login you can't post or pm an admin, doh. :o :-[ So, I re-registered as Rods2. Never bothered complaining as there was a danger of catching an overworked admin at an inopportune moment, then who knows what would have happened to my account or two! :o :o
So beware, somewhere out there in the ghostly OOF anti-matter either there is lurking a Rods account. ;D ;D ;D
Far from me to spread conspiracy theories, but there is a rumour, its haunting the hypervisor firmware! ::) ::) ::)
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I half seriously sugested on a forum (maybe this one) ages ago that the Russians could use Cyprus or Greece as a port. I was laughed down.
Well shiver me timbers they have signed a deal for the Russian Navy to use ports in Cyprus . What were they thinking?
Further the Russians are wanting to use an air base on Cyprus for humanitarian relief missions. :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31632259
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It just shows what a disjointed mess the EU is. We have France and Germany going down the diplomatic route with Russia, Britain standing off, but sending troops to Ukraine and then the Cypriots welcome the Russians with open arms. ::)
We don't even know what the Greeks are up to yet! :-\
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Cyprus is well-known as a conduit for investment in Russia if you want to circumvent the embargos in place. I think officially Cyprus is the 3rd or 4th largest investor in Russia, yet the amount of money it invests is far larger than actually possible given it's GDP. ::)
So if Russia has a new deal for use of the ports it would not come as a shocker to me. The Russian emabassy in Cyprus is one of the biggest they have outside of USA/UK with "trade missions" and "analysts" making up huge numbers :-X
Dont forget that these kind of deals go on all the time. Fed up with the fact that the UK limited arms sales to Sri Lanka, their government got in to bed with the Chinese who gave them the means with which to smash the LTTE. Just after China was granted permission to build a huge military port on the Sri Lankan East Coast, in effect giving them huge influence over the Indian Ocean and in to the Arabian Sea.
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It just shows what a disjointed mess the EU is. We have France and Germany going down the diplomatic route with Russia, Britain standing off, but sending troops to Ukraine and then the Cypriots welcome the Russians with open arms. ::)
Yes, but at least nobody can buy a conventional pearl light bulb* or a vacuum cleaner of greater than 1600 watts. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/banghead.gif)
*- Except in Bridport, it seems, where "proper light bulbs" are advertised widely. Is it not part of the EU, or do they wear tin foil hats around there?
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Not just Bridport. I've seen them elsewhere and more often recently. Maybe it's the start of a revolt! ::) :y
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If we let Russia invade all of the Eastern European countries, it would help Dave's immigration target. And Cyprus, don't need any more Cypriots either.
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Cyprus is very popular as Russia and Cyprus still have a Soviet era reciprocal tax agreement where no tax is due on gains in Cyprus and it is a very easy conduit for getting
hot money out of Russia.
Russian mafia were apparently very unhappy at the German insistence that savers with over €100k took a haircut or were wiped out to save the collapsing Cypriot banks a few years a go where they were loaded with big losses from sovereign Greek bonds.
There is one common link with the latest very left wing / right wing coalition government in Greece they both have very close ties with Putin and other Russian institutions. Putin is the godfather of a very corrupt mafia state which has and is continuing to weave it's corrupt tentacles into many Western democracies. Gazprom has been allegedly allowed to flout EU law by buying gas companies in Eastern Europe to create local monopolies. Action is now been taken by the EU competition commission on this, so expect court cases and political fireworks over the next year or two. :y :y :y :y
With Russia creating a naval and airbase in Cyprus, this suggests that they think Assad will lose and Russia will lose the military bases in Syria, so they are preempting this with Cypriot replacements, which along with their base in Crimea will keep as strong a military presence as possible in the Eastern Mediterranean. Well as strong as their obsolete clapped fleet of ships will allow anyway, where they normally take several tugs on any excursion out of port, so they can tow some of them back when they breakdown! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Whatever happend and Russia decides to do, not one country around is cpapble of stopping them.
who would?
Germany / Merkel ? she is a lying little two faced Bitch which change her ways with the wind.
UK / Cameron ? not any better, he only creates laws for his Business friends and Company owners
and he piss his self on his own leg by trouble because he is to scared standing up for his own country
Austria ? what a joke
Poland ? is still under Russias Influence, same as Rumania
France and Spain? there Army is crippled by the EU
Greece ? as said they are there Friends
and so on.
All County's joined the EU to help the poor Country's to get what the rich had due to hard work and investment.
everyone got rid of Army's, Weapon Tec just for the Sake of helping the others and loving the poor in this World, but also every Govt likes to forgets about there own poor people. hmmmmm
maybe a little War is what all them EU joining sad little shit themselves Govt need to clear there Head and see the real Problems before helping other potential threats?