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Title: Air tools - 5th March ...
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 02 March 2015, 19:08:54
Compressor and air tools on offer at Aldi this Thurs, if anyone interested ....

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thur-5-mar/ (https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thur-5-mar/)
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Post by: EMD on 02 March 2015, 19:24:12
Is that just for the compressor  :-\
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Post by: aaronjb on 02 March 2015, 20:34:21
Yes.. And it's a good price for the 50L twin..
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 02 March 2015, 20:36:48
Wonder if those air tools on sale would be any good for being so cheap. Or have I answered my own question  :-\
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Post by: andyc on 02 March 2015, 21:19:25
They might be ok for the odd bit of weekend work but for everyday work i don't think they will last that long

Andy
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 March 2015, 21:22:13
They last well as long as you lube them, got a few Aldi air tools at the railway which get a real pasting week in week out and two years later still good. Plus a three year warranty
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Post by: Terbs on 02 March 2015, 21:24:10
Apart from the colour...that compressor is identical to the Rhyas one I have just bought for £197. I am pleased as punch with mine. Mine is 14cfm...I can't see a rating for the Aldi one. But me and swmbo are off to Aldi in Poole Thursday for some air tools
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 02 March 2015, 22:00:27
Always fancied an air ratchet and as we have comp. air at work . . .
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 March 2015, 23:08:22
Only thing I wouldn't bother with is the filter lubricator. Mine was all or nothing as far as the oil dosage was concerned, then, as I was adjusting it, the thread stripped on the oil adjuster and it blasted me with a fine spray of oil at 8 BAR until the reservoir was empty. >:(

Then again, it came with a couple of air hoses, IIRC, so almost worth it for them alone.
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 March 2015, 07:45:58
That's identical to the Clarke & Airtools ones that machine mart are trying to shift for £100 more


Webby, cheap air ratchets will be a disappointment after your battery gun
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 March 2015, 08:14:49
That's identical to the Clarke & Airtools ones that machine mart are trying to shift for £100 more


Webby, cheap air ratchets will be a disappointment after your battery gun

Differant application though. Smaller/less depth to the head means you can get in there easier, like once the oil filter housing is loose on the omega v6 engines, rather than banking away one click at a time with a normal ratchet.

But as you say, they only have about 20nm torque so very little power, and I rarely use mine. Other than for oil filter.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 March 2015, 08:37:01
Sure I paid £90 for a 50 litre with 2.5hp v twin from lidl.

I'm doubting my memory of the price though given the price above. :-\
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Post by: aaronjb on 03 March 2015, 09:22:43
Only thing I wouldn't bother with is the filter lubricator. Mine was all or nothing as far as the oil dosage was concerned, then, as I was adjusting it, the thread stripped on the oil adjuster and it blasted me with a fine spray of oil at 8 BAR until the reservoir was empty. >:(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Sorry Kevin, but that raised a much needed smile!

My Aldi/Lidl lubricator had a hair trigger - oil dosage was either zero or everything-in-30-seconds and nothing in between.  I do have a much, much nicer Norgren supplied one which ... the plastic fill screw sheared off of the first time I tried to undo it. >:(
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 March 2015, 09:29:27
Never fitted the lubricator on mine, just drop a bit of oil down the air feed inlet on the tool after each use.

That probably won't cut it for work shop use but diy at home will be fine. Imo.
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 March 2015, 10:14:39
Never fitted the lubricator on mine, just drop a bit of oil down the air feed inlet on the tool after each use.

That probably won't cut it for work shop use but diy at home will be fine. Imo.

Yes, that's what I do now. :y
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 March 2015, 10:17:01
Only thing I wouldn't bother with is the filter lubricator. Mine was all or nothing as far as the oil dosage was concerned, then, as I was adjusting it, the thread stripped on the oil adjuster and it blasted me with a fine spray of oil at 8 BAR until the reservoir was empty. >:(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Sorry Kevin, but that raised a much needed smile!

My Aldi/Lidl lubricator had a hair trigger - oil dosage was either zero or everything-in-30-seconds and nothing in between.  I do have a much, much nicer Norgren supplied one which ... the plastic fill screw sheared off of the first time I tried to undo it. >:(

Mrs. KW consumes vast quantities of expensive shampoo (about 1/4 of a bottle a time :o ) so I make a point of buying the cheapest 47p a bottle shampoo and making the bottle last a year or more. ;D Not that day, sadly.  ::) Think I ended up doing a prewash of swarfega too. >:(
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 March 2015, 11:57:53
I know that one all to well, 'do you take two bottles of shampoo into the shower'......yes bloody fairy liquid and Swarfega!
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 March 2015, 12:00:25
I know that one all to well, 'do you take two bottles of shampoo into the shower'......yes bloody fairy liquid and Swarfega!

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: aaronjb on 03 March 2015, 12:06:17
Brake cleaner is particularly effective at degreasing.. ;D
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Post by: EMD on 03 March 2015, 15:23:28
We all agree this is a good buy then  :-\
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 March 2015, 15:53:09
We all agree this is a good buy then  :-\
Yes, but give the oiler a miss. :y
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Post by: EMD on 03 March 2015, 16:05:45
Will it be good enough to take off wheel nuts ? And be good enough for bodywork spraying  :-\
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 March 2015, 16:54:06
Will it be good enough to take off wheel nuts ? And be good enough for bodywork spraying  :-\
The air gun may struggle, might be better to invest in better gun. And hose.
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Post by: aaronjb on 03 March 2015, 17:23:35
Will it be good enough to take off wheel nuts ? And be good enough for bodywork spraying  :-\

Yes (with a decent gun as TB says, my Ingersoll Rand one works fine on wheel nuts). And yes for single panels but not a whole car without taking the odd breather.
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Post by: Seth on 03 March 2015, 19:09:40
Always fancied an air ratchet and as we have comp. air at work . . .

Mine's still going strong after 25 years: http://www.powertoolsalesuk.com/cp828h.html

As is this mother: http://www.powertoolsalesuk.com/cp734h-chicago-pneumatic.html

 ;)

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Post by: Webby the Bear on 04 March 2015, 17:52:11
That's identical to the Clarke & Airtools ones that machine mart are trying to shift for £100 more


Webby, cheap air ratchets will be a disappointment after your battery gun

TBH TB, I don't want the gun.... was just considering the air ratchet just for making ease and speed of running down fasteners (not for breaking anything loose). Although when I think about it id then have to swap sockets over and its prob more hassle than its worth  :-\
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Post by: minifreek on 04 March 2015, 22:57:46
I have an air ratchet and it coped quite well, has seen quite a bit of abuse too.

Only problem I have found with it, as with most air tools, noise.....
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Post by: aaronjb on 05 March 2015, 09:42:47
Yup, air ratchets are noisy & slow.. though they have their uses.

I'd really like a cordless electric ratchet (not windy gun, ratchet) but they appear to be £300+ so.. I'll continue to use my wrist (same as other things, then) ;D
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 March 2015, 14:01:06
Yup, air ratchets are noisy & slow.. though they have their uses.

I'd really like a cordless electric ratchet (not windy gun, ratchet) but they appear to be £300+ so.. I'll continue to use my wrist (same as other things, then) ;D
A lovely lunchtime image...
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Post by: Gaffers on 05 March 2015, 15:11:50
Yup, air ratchets are noisy & slow.. though they have their uses.

I'd really like a cordless electric ratchet (not windy gun, ratchet) but they appear to be £300+ so.. I'll continue to use my wrist (same as other things, then) ;D
A lovely lunchtime image...

Says the smelly 600 year old hobbit who eats raw fish and never washes...... ::)
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Post by: Doctor Smeagol on 05 March 2015, 16:36:33
Yup, air ratchets are noisy & slow.. though they have their uses.

I'd really like a cordless electric ratchet (not windy gun, ratchet) but they appear to be £300+ so.. I'll continue to use my wrist (same as other things, then) ;D
A lovely lunchtime image...

Says the smelly 600 year old hobbit who eats raw fish and never washes...... ::)

Whatses? We always washes. Puddlses and poolses, fishes all flapses.

Rock in the pool
So nice and cool
So juicy sweet!
Now we wish
To catch a fish
So juicy sweet!
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Post by: Terbs on 05 March 2015, 21:02:33
Bought the Impact wrench and the airhose today. Look quite good. Not tried as my compressor is 120 miles away  :y
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Post by: aaronjb on 06 March 2015, 09:31:14
I do fancy the sander & air chisel.. couldn't be arsed to go there and buy them, though.
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Post by: chrisgixer on 06 March 2015, 12:12:58
Me neither
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Post by: Nick W on 08 March 2015, 11:16:48
Wonder if those air tools on sale would be any good for being so cheap. Or have I answered my own question  :-\


There is very little difference between cheapy air tools and much more expensive ones. Aside from a huge hole in your back balance that is.
The key to air tools is to lubricate them properly, and for tools that run for long periods like grinders an attached oiler is a good idea.


Without a big, powerful compressor, airtools are more trouble than they solve for most DIY use.


Having read the previous 2 posts; air sanders are huge air consumers and very noisy - I find them next to useless, and bought an electric DA. As for chisels, ensure that your handheld one is good quality, sharp and use a bigger hammer!
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 March 2015, 13:13:24
Our compressor at the garage is good although it's farking noisy. Does take a while to get decent power after turning it on. Is that normal?
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Post by: Nick W on 08 March 2015, 13:43:26
Our compressor at the garage is good although it's farking noisy. Does take a while to get decent power after turning it on. Is that normal?


Yes. And consider the running costs of  dirty great electric motor than runs for several minutes to power your windy gun to remove 5 wheel nuts. And How clean is the air supply; the compressor at work is mounted upstairs, behind a locked door, and so the air hose could almost be used as a water hose!


Air ratchets? I have a good one(Chicago Pneumatic) that I was given. Having used it a few times, I think it was overpriced; longhandled ratchets are much more useful especially in 1/2" drive.


I can't abide the noise of the air tool itself either. I did see some noise data that suggested that earplugs should always be used when using them as they are far louder than equivalent electric tools.


As far as I'm concerned, the only use for compressed air in the light workshop(trucks are an entirely different matter!) is for spraying. And modern guns are far better suited to small compressors than old ones were.
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 March 2015, 14:46:44
Regarding noise I'd say my Makita cordless makes a worse noise than the compressed tools. Piercing would be the correct adjective  ;D

I still don't think I'll bother with the ratchet. I just don't think I'd make the conscious effort each time to get it out. It's easier to run down with normal ratchet   :-\
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Post by: Nick W on 08 March 2015, 14:51:55
Regarding noise I'd say my Makita cordless makes a worse noise than the compressed tools. Piercing would be the correct adjective  ;D

I still don't think I'll bother with the ratchet. I just don't think I'd make the conscious effort each time to get it out. It's easier to run down with normal ratchet   :-\


It's the loud, high pitched whine of airtools that I can't stand. Like running your nails down a blackboard.


If you want a 1/2" air ratchet, you're welcome to mine, as I have no use for it. The 3/8 cordless impact wrench is another that rarely makes it of the box.
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 March 2015, 14:56:11
Thanks nick. How much would you want fir said ratchet?  :)
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Post by: Nick W on 08 March 2015, 15:02:04
Nothing, as I was given it.
We'll have to sort out a sensible way of getting it to you. But not this week, as I'm in SW France drinking beer and eating too much cheese.
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 March 2015, 15:04:16
 ;D

That's really kind nick thanks very much!

I get paid in week n 'arf so let me know whenever your back and I'll send you the postal dosh  :y

Cheers mate  :) :)
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Post by: Seth on 08 March 2015, 15:39:18
Our compressor at the garage is good although it's farking noisy. Does take a while to get decent power after turning it on. Is that normal?

Yes, it can take a while to fill the tank(s) depending on their capacity.
Once full, the unloader valve should blow-off and the compressor'll then shut down ;)
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Post by: Merlindriver on 17 March 2015, 14:57:51
Never fitted the lubricator on mine, just drop a bit of oil down the air feed inlet on the tool after each use.

That probably won't cut it for work shop use but diy at home will be fine. Imo.

Same here. I found the in-line lubricator a pita and to have it detachable from the main airline - which it needs to be otherwise you will need a separate line for spraying - means more connectors and restrictions to reduce the flow. It was really noticeable when using an impact wrench.