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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: minifreek on 08 March 2015, 08:54:01
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Hello folks... bare with me....
When I had my Vectra B I only got 1 key with it, I swapped over the CL interface from preface to facelift and ended up having 2 keys - I was happy with that for many years...
I got my Omega January 2014 with the 1 key, its been driving me nuts ever since TBH. Is it as simple as swapping over the CL interface with matching fobs as I did with the Vectra or is it more involved...?
I hav got the CL interface from the Vectra but of course it won't be any good on the Omega as there is no facility on the interface for the boot release, otherwise I would use that and be happy with the 2 keys :)
Also, I have a blank immobiliser transponder chip that needs programming to the car, I would need the car pass for me to do this, can the car passes still be obtained....?
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Easily do-able ,if you have the software, carpass is about £25 from the stealers
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Iv got the software to programme it and diagnostics etc... I won't mention its name as its forbidden on here :)
I'll get in touch with my local Vx place and see if they can obtain it for me... Hopefully they won't tell me its obsolete as they have done in the past for parts....
Thanks for the answer :)
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I wouldn't be using that to program keys :-X
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I wouldn't be using that to program keys :-X
Agreed. Defo, NOT. :-X
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It's just car pass Tech2 and new key is it not? :-\
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It's just car pass Tech2 and new key is it not? :-\
Indeed, with emphasis on the Tech 2 bit :y
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I wouldn't be using that to program keys :-X
Agreed. Defo, NOT. :-X
Has anyone actually had a problem with programming a key with " IT " ?
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I think it's as much to do with repairing the fall out from using that for programming... best used as a code reader imho :-\
No doubt TB will be able to explain the exact issues with it :y
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I think it's as much to do with repairing the fall out from using that for programming... best used as a code reader imho :-\
No doubt TB will be able to explain the exact issues with it :y
Does a good job of live data too..
Also done enable cruise with it but thats all :y
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Never once had a problem using it to code keys to an ECU.....
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Never once had a problem using it to code keys to an ECU.....
....yet :(
Assuming we are talking about the same thing of course, I'm sure a certain admin will be aiming to discuss the number of ecu's he's had to re configure with tech 2 that have been screwed by certain software.
It's also fussy about which model year it works with. So it might be the case that it works ok on yours, but not on another. So if it works on yours, great news, but its not advised.
It won't talk to all my ecu's I know that much. But it does the main ones and live data so well worth having, it's just the programming side to stay clear of. Sadly
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Doesn't IT (perhaps that should be a new name for it) recover the numbers needed to program keys/alarms? I'm sure I've seen it in one of the menus, although that might have been on a mate's Astra.
Considering the price, and that IT allows you to look at all the live data, I consider it an essential tool for anyone who needs to efficiently diagnose a Vauxhall and can't justify a real Tech2. Which is all of us if we're honest.
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I also have Tech2 :) but the 'dongle' won't connect to my laptop - sadly....
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Doesn't IT (perhaps that should be a new name for it) recover the numbers needed to program keys/alarms? I'm sure I've seen it in one of the menus, although that might have been on a mate's Astra.
Considering the price, and that IT allows you to look at all the live data, I consider it an essential tool for anyone who needs to efficiently diagnose a Vauxhall and can't justify a real Tech2. Which is all of us if we're honest.
All the menus are there I'm fairly sure. Thing is, it won't always communicate with each menu/ecu. For instance my 03 will talk to abs and self levelling. But not servo-tronic and something else I can't remember. Where as I know of a couple of earlier cars that get gear box and engine, live data, and that's your lot.
There's something about the way it communicates that allows corruption. If just reading codes and data it will just start again, but if that happens in programming then you've likely oppsed it completely.
....or something like that anyway. But yes what it does do reliably is well worth having.imo. :-X
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what is IT?
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what is IT?
Voldemort ;D
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Yes, I've seen a fair few shagged Alarm ECUs across a range of Vauxhalls now where a certain dodgy code reader had previously been used to program a new fob. I've seen a fair few shagged NCDC units as well, when people try to play with them.
Whether or not it inflicts the non-Chinese illegal copies, I don't know, as I don't know anyone who has the official one. Certainly if you had the official one, you'd likely have some comeback.
Its a reasonable tool for code reading and live data - its downsides in this respect is it won't touch many ECUs, and the live data updates are too slow (and the interface is a bit crap).
On the upside, I make decent money off those who have been stupid enough to program with it, esp those who shag their immobilisers, and want me to travel to them.
The reason why we do not allow discussion of the cloned devices is because the manufacturer of the genuine device has been quite successful in shutting down sites promoting the use of the cloned ones, and at the time, I was already dealing with threats from another set of solicitors over some of my web content, and couldn't afford more grief.
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Sorry to butt in :) what is the cheapest and most reliable way to obtain a spare key for facelift ? Is it a dealer only option ?
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Obtain a fob (£35 odd unprogrammed a while ago but probably gone up since, from vx are best quality, or eBay are cheaper but the buttons are really stiff on some and quality generally is poor) and a blade.
Get TB or one of the tech 2 guys on here to programme it.
Glue the transponder in is a tip (iirc)
Get your local key cutter to cut it to the existing key.
Job jobbed.
Vx wanted £95 last I looked a few years ago and I bet that's gone up since. So should be able to do the job for half that.
EDIT TO ADD
tech 2 will need car pass details to complete programming. If you don't have those numbers get them from vx with the key fob and blade. Can't remember the fee :(
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Thanks for that , I will have a look about , mine is one with three buttons on the key . I hate having one key as the alarm has started whining for no reason i now lock car by opening back door and pressing drivers button down as suggested on here , with keys on roof of car so I dont lock the buggers in ;D
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Would that be the power sounder ? (Siren, remove from scuttle drivers side asap)
Or the horn? Likely to be a genuine alarm trip, iirc, so needs tech 2 to see which sensor. Banner switch quite common if it's on the pas side on yours...?
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If the alarm is whining for no reason it could be the siren is starting to fail (powersounder) it is located under the scuttle on the drivers side.... a lot of people remove them from the circuit as they have a tendency to burst into flames or at least smoulder for a while first... the only problem with doing this is that it is part of a Thatcham Cat1 alarm as installed by Vx at the time of manufacture and removing it could invalidate your insurance :)
I replaced mine...
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Mine has new batteries re soldered in.
Althoug master wasn't impressed by that. Iirc :(
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the hazards flash as well when this happens , I disconnected the bonnet switch but it still did it so I lock it by method previous said.
Key on ebay I bid on with uncut blank so hopefully I can get someone in Suffolk area to tech 2 it otherwise it will be off to Bury St Edmunds to main dealers , they have quoted about £70.00.
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I occasionally get to Newmarket once every 2 or 3 months...
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:y Ill be in touch hopefully TheBoy 8)