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Title: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: mr blaney on 26 March 2015, 10:45:07
Ok so I have the actual xenon d2 h7 combo headlights  but a adjuster is broken and the lenses are faded  I was gonna just replace them with oem units till I found out there £208 plus vat each , eeek

So I'm debating in going the other route , buy new b2 2000-03 h1/h7 head lights , then just replacing the h1 with a hid unit bulb that should just plug into the oem xenon ballasts , total cost will be about £112 

Can anyone see any issues as they still have the head light levellers in n washers for mot , bulbs will be the same just a diff setup kind of so light should be as equivalent if not better Fh

People's thoughts please ????
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 March 2015, 10:47:14
My advice would be to but some alloy adjusters to repair the internals and then sand and polish the plastic front to restore them.

The result then is OE headlights restored to original condition for circa 30-40 notes
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 March 2015, 10:48:43
If its just the adjuster that's broken, you can buy replacement solid metal engineered adjusters via this forum (or at least I hope you still can, I want some once the Mot's done) faded lenses are easily brought back to life with a cutting compound / wet n dry etc..

Alternatively there are many people who break and sell Xenons on here who should be able to help a fair hack cheaper than £208, or even £112.  :)



edit: must type faster  :D :D
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: mr blaney on 26 March 2015, 11:21:20
Sorry should have made it clearer,  the lense marks are on the inside also i believe scorched off high watt high beam bulbs , I've already polished the outers

Ergo imo there not ever gonna be clear as opposed to new units 
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Nick W on 26 March 2015, 11:26:40
It's only worth buying used lamps if they already have the adjusters and don't need polishing. And are cheap. Good luck with that.

You have to remove the lens to replace the adjuster, which makes polishing the inside possible.

So that's the best way to go about it, as Mark said.
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 March 2015, 13:17:23
True, though it depends if he needs the car imminently - once he takes the headlamp apart he's committed, and has to reassemble that evening. If not, no headlamp = no drivey  :)

If he got a spare pair of lamps he can disassemble in his own time, and make the best job of it, doesn't matter if it takes a week, he's got time. On the other hand, if he can do it all in one evening, then no worries, no need to buy spare lamps.  :)
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: mr blaney on 26 March 2015, 13:35:06
Yes that is my other concern in my li e of work I'm basically on call 24/7 hence why I'm thinking buy replacement new lamps and a h1/hid 6000 k bulb kit and Install them to the ballasts I have in car already  then at a later date I can refurbished the originals as and when I get time
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 March 2015, 13:46:14
Can anyone confirm that you can 'Xenon-ise' standard lamps? ie: from the outside a FL omega with or without Xenons look visually identical - could mr blarney get 'any old' set of FL lamps, and only upon the actual act of taking his existing headlamps out, simply screw the Xenon 'pack/part/section' to his hitherto normal halogens? I mention as normal halogens are infinitely easier to get hold of than Xenons in good order.  :y
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Merlindriver on 26 March 2015, 15:06:07
There is bound to be an Omega with the original HID lights that is being broken somewhere. E-Bay?
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 March 2015, 15:50:11
HID lights will need the rest of the levelling system to function properly, or some messing around to get them to work with manual adjustment, which leaves the car "not strictly legal". Especially as the OP is looking for a quick turnaround that won't disable the car for too long, I'd just get the uprated adjusters and fix what he already has.
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: Nick W on 26 March 2015, 15:57:33
I can't see the job taking more than an hour per lamp, from working to working.
That's a pretty quick turnaround?
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2015, 17:43:15
Can anyone confirm that you can 'Xenon-ise' standard lamps? ie: from the outside a FL omega with or without Xenons look visually identical - could mr blarney get 'any old' set of FL lamps, and only upon the actual act of taking his existing headlamps out, simply screw the Xenon 'pack/part/section' to his hitherto normal halogens? I mention as normal halogens are infinitely easier to get hold of than Xenons in good order.  :y
Legally, no. The lens has to be type approved for HID use
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2015, 17:44:15
And for info, no Omega was ever fitted with bi-xenon lights
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: mr blaney on 26 March 2015, 21:50:08
Bi xenon comes from the fact of d2 and h7 in one cluster same as what's in my spec 3 skyline head lights
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: RobG on 26 March 2015, 21:56:08
Bi-xenon headlights have a HID bulb for main beam with a shutter mechanism. Omegas do not.
Title: Re: hedlight problems bi xenon and alternative fix , people's opinions please
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 March 2015, 22:08:04
Bi xenon comes from the fact of d2 and h7 in one cluster same as what's in my spec 3 skyline head lights
That be a mono xenon set up... doesn't have the same ring to it, does it :D

Bi being latin for dual, ie two in one unit, not two on the car ;)