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Title: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 March 2015, 18:48:32
Mine are seized solid!  ::)

Any tips on freeing them up? I've soaked them with WD40 and applied heat but I can't shift them.  :( 

Maybe I should use more welly but I tend to break things when I get brutal!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 March 2015, 18:51:56
Cherry red with a blow torch, but remember that the petrol tank is plastic :-X

They are available new from Vx, Allgerman/Lemforder and also ATP for reasonable money, better to fit new than bend the current ones which are probably the original ones :-\
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Nick W on 30 March 2015, 18:52:52
Mine are seized solid!  ::)

Any tips on freeing them up? I've soaked them with WD40 and applied heat but I can't shift them.  :( 

Maybe I should use more welly but I tend to break things when I get brutal!  :o ;D


Steel parts that are seized like that need to be heated to red hot to achieve anything useful. You're only going to do that with a welding torch; even a large propane or butane torch won't put enough heat in.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: steve6367 on 30 March 2015, 20:32:03
I struggled with mine and changed to Lemforder from ECP in the end. Have managed to free the old ones only once off the car.

Steve
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 March 2015, 21:21:54
I struggled with mine and changed to Lemforder from ECP in the end. Have managed to free the old ones only once off the car.

Steve
Probably the most effective way of dealing with them... Can then be greased and rebuilt and kept as spares or sold as exchange items :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 30 March 2015, 22:22:02
Usually remove, heat up, dismantle, grease thoroughly, refit. But then there's the set up to consider.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 30 March 2015, 22:22:14
;D
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: steve6367 on 30 March 2015, 22:32:12
I struggled with mine and changed to Lemforder from ECP in the end. Have managed to free the old ones only once off the car.

Steve
Probably the most effective way of dealing with them... Can then be greased and rebuilt and kept as spares or sold as exchange items :y

In my case onto the 2.5 and then repeat with what I remove from there  :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 March 2015, 22:59:22
Usually remove, heat up, dismantle, grease thoroughly, refit. But then there's the set up to consider.

Believe it or not that's what I'm considering!  :o  Hence.......  ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 31 March 2015, 01:18:19
Usually remove, heat up, dismantle, grease thoroughly, refit. But then there's the set up to consider.

Believe it or not that's what I'm considering!  :o  Hence.......  ::)   ;)

NO! Don't believe a word of it. Lies lies lies ;D

:y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: terry paget on 02 April 2015, 20:56:52
On scrapping a car I take RTRs off the car, heat them up, free them off, grease and store. Running 6 Omegas for 8 years, I have occasionally had MOT advisory notes on play in rear track rod ball joints, never a failure. The same MOT tester who advised slight play one year ignored it the next. I have never changed a rear track rod on an Omega.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 April 2015, 22:24:42
I'm wondering whether to get a set off a scrapper, free them up and then I've got them ready to go on when I sort out the back end.  :-\
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: joff on 02 April 2015, 22:28:57
I got a set of new ones from ECP and took them with me to WiM and got them to fit and set up with the rest of it :y :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 April 2015, 23:14:06
That's a good idea!  :y  I'm thinking about my rear doughnuts, so was thinking of having a set ready to whack on at the same time.  :-\

My tyres are near the end anyway and I'll get it set up soon after, so it won't matter if it's not quite right.  ;)
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: steve6367 on 03 April 2015, 07:32:53
Mine came from ECP too, not expensive and seem fine. I have then overhauled the one that came off  :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 April 2015, 08:54:20
See, wim really should remove the tre's and free them off as part of their service. But they don't. As a result I've had numerous trips to them and returned with a pissed stearing wheel, due to incorrect rear thrust angle.

I know Micheldever do. ;) (or they did last time I was there, might be worth a call to them for Tigger, as they are nearer)
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 April 2015, 11:30:19
There's a place in Bristol that some members have used and I spoke to him ages ago to enquire about prices and without prompting he said depends on what needs doing and often the rear track rods are seized on Omegas, so we'd need to free them up first.  So might go there as he sounded like he knew what he was talking about and I'm often in the Brizzle area.  :y

Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Shackeng on 03 April 2015, 11:39:19
There's a place in Bristol that some members have used and I spoke to him ages ago to enquire about prices and without prompting he said depends on what needs doing and often the rear track rods are seized on Omegas, so we'd need to free them up first.  So might go there as he sounded like he knew what he was talking about and I'm often in the Brizzle area.  :y

Any idea where?
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 April 2015, 11:43:22
There's a place in Bristol that some members have used and I spoke to him ages ago to enquire about prices and without prompting he said depends on what needs doing and often the rear track rods are seized on Omegas, so we'd need to free them up first.  So might go there as he sounded like he knew what he was talking about and I'm often in the Brizzle area.  :y

Any idea where?

Um I've forgotten.  :-[  I'll have a look and see if I can find it and will post it up.  I think they were a WIM affliate.  :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 April 2015, 11:47:31
Micheldever are 45mins from you Shack

https://www.protyre.co.uk/tyre-centres/micheldever-tyre-auto-services.aspx


...although I wouldn't trust their pro tyre franchises off hand.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 April 2015, 11:58:55
This is the place in Bristol.  :)

http://www.fcmwheelalignment.co.uk/#

Not a recommendation mind as I havn't taken my car there, just chatted to the guy on the phone, but it was on here that they came to my attention.  ;)

Reply #18

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=114160.0;all
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Shackeng on 03 April 2015, 14:54:32
Entwood mentioned these as having WIM connections, but hasn't used them.  Carson tyres in Melksham .. http://www.carsontyre.co.uk/  :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Shackeng on 03 April 2015, 14:55:37
Micheldever are 45mins from you Shack

https://www.protyre.co.uk/tyre-centres/micheldever-tyre-auto-services.aspx


...although I wouldn't trust their pro tyre franchises off hand.

I think I used them 20 years ago and were pretty reasonable for tyres. :y
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 April 2015, 15:09:16
Micheldever are 45mins from you Shack

https://www.protyre.co.uk/tyre-centres/micheldever-tyre-auto-services.aspx


...although I wouldn't trust their pro tyre franchises off hand.

I think I used them 20 years ago and were pretty reasonable for tyres. :y

They are a massive wholesaler and command bulk buy prices nobody else seems to be able to match. I use them as a result. It's often worth the trip. Especially if they can set the car up as well.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 April 2015, 15:10:32
Btw set up costs are per adjustment. So if everything needs doing they can be more expensive, but if say just the toe needs doing, they are much cheaper.
Title: Re: Rear Track Rods
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 April 2015, 16:21:54
I've used Protyre in Exeter before.  :y