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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: danzigfan on 20 April 2015, 06:55:25
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Just got those this morning. I have some time till my night shift starts so I'll prepare my miggy for cam gasket replace. It cost 110eur all together so I hope it'll work as it should. Wish me luck
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Black goo...? :)
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In the garage...prepared 8)
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You'll be fine. Onc e you've got all the rubbish outj of the way, easy, just go slow, and make sure when you put the cam covers back on you don't move/knock out of place the gaskets. Have a good evening, and a drink when you're finished! 8)
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Coffee time ;)
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...After putting some old rag in the inlets!!! I once dropped a nut in there (onto a piece of rag I had just put in moments before) Trust me, stuffing rag in the dividers is the best thing you'll ever do in your life!
Looking good, though, keep up the good work :)
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Just got those this morning. I have some time till my night shift starts so I'll prepare my miggy for cam gasket replace. It cost 110 eur all together so I hope it'll work as it should. Wish me luck
Is that less than we pay,if converted to real money.
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I believe it's the same price as yours - without trade card discount. The gaskets - for both banks- were 75eur with discount. It's 54eur per bank otherwise
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About the same price :y
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All back together now. How long do I have to wait before I start the engine?
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All back together now. How long do I have to wait before I start the engine?
Um... didn't know there was a time? It was years ago since I did mine, but don't recall waiting. Ah, unless you're thinking of letting the sealant go off, so maybe 12 hours?
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Should be good to go :y
Grey goo needs 24hrs if doing oil cooler :y
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I've always left it overnight to let the goo set. :y
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Can't remember doing it myself, but I must have done. She was SORN at the time, so there'd have been no rush to get her back assembled and running. Leave it overnight, for sure, then :)
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I've always left it overnight to let the goo set. :y
+1 :y Always let it settle and set
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All back together now. How long do I have to wait before I start the engine?
Black goo for cam covers? Takes about 15-30mins to go off so by the time it's all back togethor it's ready to go. :)
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Well the result is - wrong driver side (your driver side :P ) is dry and ok for now. Other side is still smoking a bit....I hope it's just an oil residue from previous gasket leak :( Will see about that if it stops othervise I'll just repeat the procedure I guess. Thanks for help guys
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If it's still leaking, then it's likely your cam cover has gone out of shape. :(
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You're right, it could be because leak is at the front where the half moon is - right side looking towards the engine - always the same spot. We'll see if it clears after some time - still hoping
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http://youtu.be/O4oY29ycKtc
Breathers are clean, gaskets are new and oem parts, o-rings are new....what more now??!!!??? >:( >:( :(
I came from work and went to motorway for 4 miles, I don't know what to do anymore :-[
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If you cleaned out all the gasket faces, used sealant in the right places and torqued it down to 8Nm using the spiral routine, then as said above - it looks like warped cam covers.
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I went to check on covers now...now this will be an amateur question - cam covers "cover" edges of the head nicely but as I move my hand along the head, the edge of cover is moved away from the head (on the side) in the middle and goes back into the corner of the head. Like it's to wide in the middle - goes over the enge of the head. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say :-[
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Yes they tend to 'spread' either through being over tightened or maybe just through age and heat. :(
I expect if you take it off and line the long side along a ruler or some other straight edge, you will see it bows outwards in the middle and that is what is causing your leak. :(
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I'm assuming that too sir tigger. Anyone knows what is the price for new pair of cam covers maybe? :(
I do have a 3.0 omega sorned close to me but I don't know if it's worth to try removing those just to find them warped too :-[
Or I can go aluminum covers route from ebay and keep breathers clean.... :-\
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A set of new cam covers is around £200 here... :o .........and they come with new gaskets! :-X ::)
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Are those made of gold? :o :o
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A set of new cam covers is around £200 here... :o .........and they come with new gaskets! :-X ::)
:o :o :o Surely the only warp owing to being over tightened more than 8 Nm :-\
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Surely someone can provide him with some good used camcovers? Even with postage to Slovenia, still got to be better than 200?
Post in the Wanted Section, I'm sure you won't have long to wait.
Oh - important question - do you have a torque wrench that goes down to 8nm? - it's basically impossible to guess this figure, and is critical to avoid warping, as said.
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A set of new cam covers is around £200 here... :o .........and they come with new gaskets! :-X ::)
:o :o :o Surely the only warp owing to being over tightened more than 8 Nm :-\
That's the main cause I'd think as 8nm really dosn't feel very tight and it's always tempting to nip them up a bit more... ::) However even if they've always been correctly fitted, age and heat must take their toll as well as they're made of plastic. :-\
My friendly stealer once told me that when they serviced Devon & Cornwall Constabulary's Omegas back in the day, they always fitted new covers and gaskets when they started to leak. :-\ Taxpayers footing the bill though! ::) ;D
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I always thought the warping cam cover was an
urban myth garage excuse for not being arsed to do the job properly? ::)
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danzigfan
pm pauls, he has some cam covers at the not unreasonably priced £25...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129881.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129881.0)
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I've just been reading that thread ;D, thanks
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Sorry guys, but will 3.2 cam covers fit onto 2.5?
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Sorry guys, but will 3.2 cam covers fit onto 2.5?
Yes, all day long... :y
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:y Thanks
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I got a pair of straight cam covers of sorned 3.0 omega just a mile away. Took it off and replaced those with mine. After 5 hours transplantation is done and holding well for now. I took a short drive and no smell of oil or smoke coming out of the bonnet.... Crossed my fingers to hold for long time :D
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:y
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No need for smoke screen when cops are chasing any more :D ;D Hope its ok now :y
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;D ;D I hope too, though the phobia still lives inside me... I just don't believe it's fixed till a week passes without smoke and burnt oil smell
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Takes a while for all the residue to burn off , i bought an adjustable mirror on a telescopic stick thing to keep a check on any leaks :)
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Takes a while for all the residue to burn off , i bought an adjustable mirror on a telescopic stick thing to keep a check on any leaks :)
Bet its got a light on. ;D ;D
I like mr DTM,s Little trick.. Sticking a camera phone down the back & taking a pic Then Zooming in on the phone.
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Takes a while for all the residue to burn off , i bought an adjustable mirror on a telescopic stick thing to keep a check on any leaks :)
Bet its got a light on. ;D ;D
I like mr DTM,s Little trick.. Sticking a camera phone down the back & taking a pic Then Zooming in on the phone.
No light on it .. its a pattern one :( ;D ;D I find those little telescopic magnets are very handy too , especially for that B@stad bolt >:(
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Sorry guys, but will 3.2 cam covers fit onto 2.5?
Yes, all day long... :y
Really?
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Sorry guys, but will 3.2 cam covers fit onto 2.5?
Think 2.5\3.0 are different to 2.6\3.2 due to coil pack cut outs?
stands back awaits proving wrong post :P
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Yes, eight bolts, all in the same place, the coil pack cut outs allow easier plug access and allow any condensation to evaporate out as the engine warms up...
Gaskets fit as well.
Remember that the 3.0 was sold elsewhere as a Dbw engine... ::)
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Yes, eight bolts, all in the same place, the coil pack cut outs allow easier plug access and allow any condensation to evaporate out as the engine warms up...
Gaskets fit as well.
Remember that the 3.0 was sold elsewhere as a Dbw engine... ::)
A 205/65/15 wheel and tyre will fit along with 3 235/45/17s but its just wrong. Personally I would rather fit the correct ones
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I fully agree with the sentiment Pete, but the question was would they fit and the answer is yes ;)
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Thing is though, having asked if they fit the op might not be too impressed when he tries to fit spark plug leads to his coil pack cam covers. He needs to be able to make an informed decision.
Which he now will be able to do. So we got there :y
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The plug leads ought to be a secure fit on the plugs, the shape of the hole in the cam cover is largely irrelevant... and if their available locally (given OPs location)and cheaply they would be fine as a stop gap until the correct ones are fitted if it is felt they are required.
At the very least they will confirm that the old covers were indeed the cause of the oil leak ;)
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Exactly and after replacing gasket 3 times and replacing cam covers yesterday I'm fitting these only
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271845650182?nav=SEARCH
even if I have to weld those down :P
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Exactly and after replacing gasket 3 times and replacing cam covers yesterday I'm fitting these only
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271845650182?nav=SEARCH
even if I have to weld those down :P
Make sure you check / clear breathers regular if fitting them .
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Are you using MIG welder :D
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Breathers are clean as new...metal covers are really the last option before nervous breakdown :-X ::)
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Breather box clear ? :-\
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In the back of the block? Yes
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Not a hijack, just on the subject of breathers/camcover leaks: Every time I have checked my breathers they have always been immaculately clean. Does the fact that I always use premium unleaded have any bearing on this? :-\
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I noticed it myself, only thing blocked was a small hole in the breather bridge on the plenum. Maybe it looks stupid but I tried blowing into those hoses installed after cleaning and there was no blockage anywhere.
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Not a hijack, just on the subject of breathers/camcover leaks: Every time I have checked my breathers they have always been immaculately clean. Does the fact that I always use premium unleaded have any bearing on this? :-\
No. Just regular servicing with decent oil and not too many short journeys from cold :y
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Not a hijack, just on the subject of breathers/camcover leaks: Every time I have checked my breathers they have always been immaculately clean. Does the fact that I always use premium unleaded have any bearing on this? :-\
No. Just regular servicing with decent oil and not too many short journeys from cold :y
Ah, well it is rarely used on short journeys, and has plenty of TLC. :y
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Guys......it's a failed attempt again >:( >:(
Why the hell does hasket hold when I'm driving arround town and then fail when I go to motorway???? Is it a oil pressure problem there or what?!?
I just came from short 3 mile motorway drive, going 70mph and the engine is like a steam engine again....lifted the bonnet and horrid smell came out of clouds of both sides of the engine. Diffinately not a residue ffs... >:( I guess I need to search for problem somewhere else, not gaskets, not covers.
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Another thing crossed my mind. I had aux belt snept of due to failed tensioner on motorway a month ago or two...being only a 1/4 of a mile from exit I put it into N and proceed with momentum to parking lot there. Could I have damaged something by doing this? :'( :'( :'(
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Breathers are clean as new...metal covers are really the last option before nervous breakdown :-X ::)
If they are clean there's something wrong, as they SHOULD have a film of oil from the crank case fumes. Can you remove the pipes at the back of the plenum breather box (Eco tech black box) and blow through them? You should be able to hear the air physically blowing into the crank case one way, and the plenum the other.
You can attach and air line, or even blow through them with your mouth if needed.
Basically the entire inlet, from behind the throttle valve, throughout the plenum, to the valve stems should be covered in a film of oil.
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Another thing crossed my mind. I had aux belt snept of due to failed tensioner on motorway a month ago or two...being only a 1/4 of a mile from exit I put it into N and proceed with momentum to parking lot there. Could I have damaged something by doing this? :'( :'( :'(
No.
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Not a hijack, just on the subject of breathers/camcover leaks: Every time I have checked my breathers they have always been immaculately clean. Does the fact that I always use premium unleaded have any bearing on this? :-\
Same for you shak, they should be oily. If not they are most likely blocked.
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I did that when the plenum was of and I could hear air coming from the under plenum part, no blockage was there AFAIK :'( this is becoming frustrating..
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And when I sprayed some carb cleaner into the breather hoses - all of them - it all went down , no blockage anywhere
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I did that when the plenum was of and I could hear air coming from the under plenum part, no blockage was there AFAIK :'( this is becoming frustrating..
Does the air reach the crank case blowing the other way?
There is a breather box behind cylinder 5. Two pipes attach there. 1 large. 1 small. These must blow through to the crank case, or they are blocked.
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Are the breather hoses connected up correctly?
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So if I cover one of them it should not be blocked. Let me check this now, I'll be back in a minute
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This three unattached hoses go to breather box right?
If I block larhe hose and blow into another Ifeel the resistance. I can hear hissing from plenum but I get my pressure back in the face when I stop >:(. The pressure when I blow comes out of the small unattached hose in the pic BUT poorly...lot of resistance
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In that case it doea sound like the breather box is blocked :'(
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When I did cam covers I didn't take out breather box but I only took a piece of small wire and pushed it trough the small hose inlet just to see it's not blocked....and it wasn't :-\ :-[ Should I unbolt breather box to find if it's blocked inside? As I was reading how to's and experiences I thought it was enough to do that
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All depends on how the car was treated before you bought it...
There is a picture here somewhere of the insides of the box, which helps to understand how it blocks up.
A small wire might well clear the hole, but your effectively making a hole in soft oily residue, so won't take much to block it up, even if you have successfully cleared a hole all the way through... :-\
Best thing is to acquire another box, soak it overnight in a bowl of petrol, then leave to dry in the sun, followed by a quick go in the dishwasher.
Once thoroughly clean fit to the car, but bear in mind that it requires grey goo, same as oil cooler, so will need time to cure before using the car :y
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As I need to remove plenum, injectors and all unnecesary stuff away that would be the easyest acces to the breather box remove I guess.
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Bah, just pull the scuttle :y
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I know but I need to do cam covers again anyway >:( :-[
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Best thing is to acquire another box, soak it overnight in a bowl of petrol, then leave to dry in the sun, followed by a quick go in the dishwasher.
Don't tell Mrs danzigfan! ::) ;D
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Anyone got a part number for the breather box ? Probably not cheap :-\
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You'll get the number on wednesday when I rip it out.... >:( :P ;D I went for a drive minutes aho again, came home and no smoke and no burnt oil smell ??? Pressure on gasket probably rises with rpm because I didn't pass 2000 rpm this time.
What if I try to clean and fix breather box only without touching cam gasket again?
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Worth a try an won't do any harm.. less hassle :) You need long arms ti reach box :-\
I think mine needs taking off now >:(
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Should be ok as the seals are new :y
Box is a metal lump so absolutely no reason not to use second hand ones and clean thoroughly before fitting... Common to all Omega era v6s :y
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What is part number for the proper sealant ?
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Oil Cooler Plate Sealer Part Number is = 93165267 and AFAIK it's the same for breather at the back
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Oil Cooler Plate Sealer Part Number is = 93165267 and AFAIK it's the same for breather at the back
Indeed :y
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How long does it take to remove wiper scuttle? I'll try it that way instead of plenum removal for the 5th time now
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How long does it take to remove wiper scuttle? I'll try it that way instead of plenum removal for the 5th time now
20 mins being careful :y
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Beware, the fasteners are not captive, and will head for the hills if the scuttle is lifted off with them still in place. Don't ask how I know this. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Thanks guys, will bear that in mind :y
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As I need to remove plenum, injectors and all unnecesary stuff away that would be the easyest acces to the breather box remove I guess.
Just force I paper clip, or similar diameter item through the small hole in the breather box brass pipe, and dig out any crap in the large bore pipe. There's no need to go any further than that as far as clearing the alloy breather box goes. There is nothing to be gained by removing it.
There is a guide on this somewhere.
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Ps I have had the box off before. You have to destroy the rivet to open it. It's not complex just a baffel plate. Nothing more in there.
Just force something through to clear any blockage. :y
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So nothing in there to brake or damage by pushing a piece of wire inside?
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Which direction does it flow ? Into box from the top :-\
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Oil Cooler Plate Sealer Part Number is = 93165267 and AFAIK it's the same for breather at the back
Thanks Mr danzig , will take precaution of getting shafted by stealers ::)
Im going to blast my box with carb cleaner then do
oil change ;)
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So nothing in there to brake or damage by pushing a piece of wire inside?
Nope. There is an alloy baffle pla.... Hang on.
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Here you go. Scroll down.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90653.0
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My memory is rustier than I thought :-[ I recalled it as being alot tighter in there...
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Could it be sludged up with mayo :-\
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Although strictly speaking the grey goo is the correct stuff to seal the breather box. Any decent automotive sealant/instant gasket such as Hylomar will do the job just as well and will be a lot cheaper. ;)
ie Tube of grey goo £11-ish tube of Hylomar £4-ish. :y
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Could it happen that breather box is blocked down at the lower two big holes which go into the crank? The rubber flap inside I mean. It's going down anyway and to soak in gasoline for a while, don't want to be half done again
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Mine, in the pictures, was blocked on the small brass insert hole. It caused no major issues. In order to cause the problems your seeing , assuming correct installation of the cam covers, there would need to be a lot more gas being blocked by the breathers. So it does "sound" like there is no breather function at all. As normally the breather system is enough to keep the crank case at negative pressure.
So, possibles;
Breathers blocked
Engine producing more crank case pressure than the breathers where designed for
Incorrectly fitted seals. In some way.
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Many thing could be wrong..... :-[ I'll keep you posted. Thank for help
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Before modifying anything, such as alloy cam covers, insure the basics are correct.
Mainly that ALL the breathers pass air/fumes in both directions via the hoses at the back. At risk of repeating, if they don't flow air, work your way back to the offending blocked holes either in the plastic Eco tech box, which can easily be removed and a paper clip forced through the holes and cleared. But don't make the holes bigger in any way or the engine will use too much oil.
If you can't clear the alloy breather box with small implements then you'll have no choice but to remove it and investigate further. The oil film and gunk on the inside of that box can dry to an exceptionally hard and brittle film that can cover the small hole on the inside. It just films over and sets. I can't explain about the large bore hole as I never had issues with it but I have seen pics of it fully gunked up with crap.
If alloy covers are fitted and the problem isn't rectified the pressure will simply burst out somewhere else. Next in line is usually the front or rear crank seals. These are awkward, time consuming and expensive to replace. Beyond the scope of most diy mechanics. Although some here have done so.
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Thanks Chrisgixer again. I have no intention to fit alloy cam covers if there's too much pressure in system...I need to find the cause first I know. In next two days.Thank you again
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Might also be a soft beather hose which is collapsing under negative pressure conditions :-\
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So, this is how big tube hole looks
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And the small one is also clean
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BUT ....no matter how hard I try I can't blow trough the tube or suck (when I block small hole and the other part of"Y" hose) , the resistance is there though both tubes are clear. It seems the breather itself is blocked at the lower part....so it'll need to come out....I hate it >:( >:( >:(
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Correction...when I removed oil dipstick pressure went trough :-X ;D So I guess it's clear
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Took my Y piece off an one side was completely blocked >:( Had to blow through with a lot of force with gunk to clear it :y Take the Y piece off an make sure it's clear ;)
Your car will love you for it ;D
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The "Y" piece was flushed with more than a liter of gasoline, there was a lot of gunk inside but is clear now. Small tube is clear too.
Is there going to be anything wrong if try a motorway run with dipstick lifted a bit? Just to release pressure out if in case there's some unundentified fault somewhere else?
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Never done that but I guess you mite have a bit of oil spray :-\
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Better small oil spray that cam cover oil steam :P Will try it with diptstick fully closed after it but let me see if pressure will build up after I reseal dipstick
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The "Y" piece was flushed with more than a liter of gasoline, there was a lot of gunk inside but is clear now. Small tube is clear too.
Is there going to be anything wrong if try a motorway run with dipstick lifted a bit? Just to release pressure out if in case there's some unundentified fault somewhere else?
Should work, and a piece of rag wrapped around the top with the stick out should reduce mess. :y
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Yes, as planned 8) . Let mi reassemble everything now and make a run..will report.
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Back....I'm considering an option(as I still have some gasoline in the garage) to burn my miggy down and enjoy it with psychopatic look of joy in my eyes... >:(
I went on motorway with oil dipstick not fully closed - stoped and checked - smoke on both sides
Then I fully closed dipstick and went back - the same result....
I'm frustrated. New OEM gasket, new 2nd hand cam covers, breathers clean.....what more does want >:( :-*
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Strange :( Seems like some sort of over pressuring :-\
Hold off on the petrol an matches , someone Will be along to advise :-\
Could take off b box and check its not blocked inside :-\
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Yes and it all happens only on motorway, not on usual road where I drive lik a granny
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See what buggers me is, the reason I replaced cam gaskets was oil on plug wells not oil leaking onto exhaust manifolds...Now plug wells are clean and everything else is wrong >:(
Could there be any of those small wacuum hoses plugged on the wrong place? Could it even result in such way I'm experiencing now?
I really don't know anymore :'(
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When does the "Y" hose "engage" into engine operating ? There is suction on small two middle plenum breather but no vacuum on "Y" piece. Does it create underpressure when running at higher rpm and then start sucking trough "Y" pipes?
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The Y piece goes to the breathers before the throttle, so it's normal for there to be no suction there.
At idle / slow running, the small breather pipe has manifold vacuum on it, air is purged from the crankcase through this pipe and is replaced by clean air entering through the Y pipe.
At full throttle, the engine breathes through the Y piece to a point upstream of the throttles. The smaller breather pipe does practically nothing due to the small diameter with very little vacuum across it.
Maybe it's worth checking the breather box behind the 1,2,3 cam cover? Could be blocked, perhaps?
Mind you, leaving the dipstick out would probably have eliminated any pressure in the crankcase. :-\
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Sory for being retard but breather box behind 1,2,3? I'm sorry ... :-[
Breather box is clean although I didn't remove it, checked it by blowing into it and air passes trough without problem
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Sorry - I meant 1,3,5 but ChrisGixer has already posted details of that. :y
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:D I thought I have to find another bl...y breather box :o
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:D I thought I have to find another bl...y breather box :o
;D ;D
Box mite be blocked though , depends on how bad it was blocked and left like that :(
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Another stupid question, sorry :-[ The breather box itself has two inlets from the crank side judging by the pics.
Are those two inlets connected to different "chambers" or both to the same chamber? I hope you understand what I'm trying to say ....Is bottom of the breather box divided in two inlets because there are two different system under it that need each their own breather (one with rubber flap and one without) or are those two connected to one chamber... Damn sorry that's just the only way I can ask what I want to know... :-[
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Clean, but does it flow air.
Can it be blown through? Block one and blow through the other. Etc
Big one looks like it's been cleared out? Was it blocked?
[Edit to add. Shit there's two more pages I have missed. I meant in response to your last pics.]
You might need to remove the breather box from behind cylinder 5. Then check it's clear inside.
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Air flows, if I block small tube and one of the "Y" part and blow into it air comes out trough oil dipstick tube without any difficulties. So I guess it's not blocked. And by looking into the back of the engine bay today I rrally can't imagine how could I remove breather box. I could only see one bolt there other three were hidden very good :'(
And I even managed to squeeze 10 inch of strong wire into it with some struggling due to inside of breather box. Wire was strong enough not to wind down at the bottom of the box.
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The breather box does come out. As Daz advised me when I had to remove mine, the heat shield is covering the second bolt, but heat shield is very easy to bend out of the way, so you can get to the second bolt.
You will need to remove the scuttle, a magnet on a stick and some grey sealant for refitting, as used on the oil cooler cover plate. I have some here but it's old.
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But.... If you can blow through the breather box that should be enough, I would of thought.
Is the Eco tech box clear to blow through in the same way? Has it been removed and inspected with cleared pin holes into the plenum? Apologies if you said so before.
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Ecotec breather is flushed and clean, suction can be felt on small middle tubes when engine is running so I think that's ok
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Ok. If that's all done, then question for all.
Does that leave badly fitted seals. Or engine producing too much crank case pressure?
Anything else?
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Into piston rings and block wear if that's the case :-\
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I fitted aftermarket gasket the same one twice - always leaking badly. Then I bought gm gasket and o rings, fitted first time started leaking after motorway run then was leaking constantly. After that I cleaned breathers again, and repeated the procedure for forth time all together.
This time gasket holds short journeys or let's say it holds when I drive with a brick under gas pedal. When I go to motorway it's all fine , no performance problem ar anything untill I stop and then smell of burnt oil enters the cabin and I get two pillars of smoke from under the bonnet one on each side >:(
I don't know why gaskets don't hold on motorway
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Might be worth doing a compression check. :-\
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When crap an gunk is poked down into the breather box say over a few years im guessing that it is possible for all that crap to accumulate and eventually block totally :-\ I would have a go at taking it off and give it a good soak and clear out just to rule it out :)
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I think of that too EMD. I came from work minutes ago, done some 7 miles of mixed driving and no smell of oil came into the cabin, no smoke oit of engine bay.
But tommorow at 2am I need to go to work agin, this time 40 miles away. I'll try not to be hard on miggy on motorway, hoping maybe it settles down a bit.... :-[ Hoping for a miracle i know but I will deffinately take off breather box when (I have fealling I'll need to) I'll be doing rocker gasket again
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I think you may have to think 'outside the box'. :y
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:-\ Trying to, believe me
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What's the oil level like?
Just out if interest.
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Just topped it up minutes ago with 0.3l of fresh gm semi. And there's no fresh oil stain on driveway, although there is a big one from the pattern gasket time.
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Pull a few plug leads and see if oil's in the well :(
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No oil in plug wells, checked yesterday when I was cleaning breather box. I needed to pull plugs out anyway. When it leaks it only leaks on exhaust manifolds
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No I meant is it over filled?
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No, I put 5,5l into it when changing it. Never to the top mark on dipstick
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I hope I'm not saying it to soon but....done 45 miles and no leak! :y
It seems there was so much oil residue it was smoking every time I drove at higher rpm because probably temperature raised much more compared to slowish driving around town.
Just my explanation... :-X to comfort myself a bit.
And yes , I still suffer of Post Traumatic Stress sindrom of cam gasket fail :-X ::)
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Fingers crossed. :y
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Fingers crossed. :y
+1 :y
This is the longest cam cover thread ever :D ;D
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I hope I'm not saying it to soon but....done 45 miles and no leak! :y
It seems there was so much oil residue it was smoking every time I drove at higher rpm because probably temperature raised much more compared to slowish driving around town.
Just my explanation... :-X to comfort myself a bit.
And yes , I still suffer of Post Traumatic Stress sindrom of cam gasket fail :-X ::)
I don't think so. I think yours was suffering from blocked breathers. But yes, fingers crossed. Might be worth a can of gunk and careful use of a jet wash to get the oil off. Obviously avoiding any electrics etc.
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Yes, I'm planning to do that, and to empty a bottle of carb cleaner into the breather box before oil change soon. Thanks for help and patience guys :y