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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: humbucker on 13 May 2015, 17:49:59
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I've got to replace the windscreen on my MV6, which affords me the opportunity to fit the 'auto/rain sensor' glass in place of the regular windscreen. I wondered whether retro-fitting the auto sensor for the wipers was a worthwhile mod? How effective is it on cars that came equipped with the feature as standard, and what would be involved in applying the same feature to my non rain sensor Omega (facelift)?
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Should be plug and play...
Go onto Ebay and acquire the following...
Vectra C autodimming rear view mirror and two piece shroud.
rain sensor from a suitably equipped, ie late Elite Omega,
Wiper relay from same Omega.
Mirror is plug and play, as is sensor, swap the wiper relay and that should be it jobbed :y
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I suggest the Vectra C mirror as it is what your MV6 would have been fitted with at the factory instead of the motorised Elite one if the Visibilty Pack was specified :y
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Cheers Al. What is the difference between auto-sensor and non-auto sensor windscreens? Is there an additional piece of 'blackout' to hide the mirror fixing?
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Yes along with the anchor point for the sensor itself :y
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Ah, I see. In that case, I'll go for the sensor-friendly windscreen! :y
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I've got to replace the windscreen on my MV6, which affords me the opportunity to fit the 'auto/rain sensor' glass in place of the regular windscreen. I wondered whether retro-fitting the auto sensor for the wipers was a worthwhile mod? How effective is it on cars that came equipped with the feature as standard, and what would be involved in applying the same feature to my non rain sensor Omega (facelift)?
Absolutely useless.
You lose the intermittent wipe and get a 'random wipe' feature that wipes when/if it feels like doing so.
Intermittent wipe with adjustable interval settings would actually be useful (or voice activation "WIPE YOU BAARSTARD"!)
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
I always said that when I had the same. But when you get a car with auto wipers that work, you miss them when you drive A N Other car without ..... a bit like central locking, auto dim mirrors, electric windows etc etc :y
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
;D ;D ;D
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I've got to replace the windscreen on my MV6, which affords me the opportunity to fit the 'auto/rain sensor' glass in place of the regular windscreen. I wondered whether retro-fitting the auto sensor for the wipers was a worthwhile mod? How effective is it on cars that came equipped with the feature as standard, and what would be involved in applying the same feature to my non rain sensor Omega (facelift)?
Absolutely useless.
You lose the intermittent wipe and get a 'random wipe' feature that wipes when/if it feels like doing so.
Intermittent wipe with adjustable interval settings would actually be useful (or voice activation "WIPE YOU BAARSTARD"!)
had it my last one.. Hated it..
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I had auto wipers on one of my previous cars. The feature worked well, but I wasn't sure whether the Omega's version was as nifty. I guess the jury's out...?!
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I had auto wipers on one of my previous cars. The feature worked well, but I wasn't sure whether the Omega's version was as nifty. I guess the jury's out...?!
It's one of the few factory fitted options that is easy to retro fit... The ambient light in the bottom of the mirror makes a nice touch as well imho :y
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I had auto wipers on one of my previous cars. The feature worked well, but I wasn't sure whether the Omega's version was as nifty. I guess the jury's out...?!
It's one of the few factory fitted options that is easy to retro fit... The ambient light in the bottom of the mirror makes a nice touch as well imho :y
I had that in a A6 before my Omega times and its one of the few things I really miss at night.
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I was under the impression that the autowiper screens were actually hard to get hold of? Seem to recall a thread some time ago to do with a guy who was faced with having only a standard screen fitted, as the insurers couldnt get hold of the auto screen. May have dreamt it or supplies were only temporarily restricted, maybe.
It's a damn fine idea if they can, though - my screen's in dire need of replacement too, so watching this thread with interest.
What's the deal with losing the intermittent wipe, though? - so you leave it on 'auto' - I personally love the variable speed settings on my stalk, is all.
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
I always said that when I had the same. But when you get a car with auto wipers that work, you miss them when you drive A N Other car without ..... a bit like central locking, auto dim mirrors, electric windows etc etc :y
My auto wipe does work but isn't sensitive enough, most noticeable in poor light and fine mist/drizzle (conditions where an intermittent wipe would be ideal).
How did you find your Omega auto-wipe? I am guessing that the R320 has a system that works :-\
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
I always said that when I had the same. But when you get a car with auto wipers that work, you miss them when you drive A N Other car without ..... a bit like central locking, auto dim mirrors, electric windows etc etc :y
My auto wipe does work but isn't sensitive enough, most noticeable in poor light and fine mist/drizzle (conditions where an intermittent wipe would be ideal).
How did you find your Omega auto-wipe? I am guessing that the R320 has a system that works :-\
My Omega had the same as Big Grifin's .... it rained ...... I switched the wipers on ..... it stopped ..... I turned them off again ;) ;)
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I have the old fashioned mk1 eyeball fitted
1 its raining, mmm should I turn the wipers on
2 yes. ;D
I always said that when I had the same. But when you get a car with auto wipers that work, you miss them when you drive A N Other car without ..... a bit like central locking, auto dim mirrors, electric windows etc etc :y
My auto wipe does work but isn't sensitive enough, most noticeable in poor light and fine mist/drizzle (conditions where an intermittent wipe would be ideal).
How did you find your Omega auto-wipe? I am guessing that the R320 has a system that works :-\
My Omega had the same as Big Grifin's .... it rained ...... I switched the wipers on ..... it stopped ..... I turned them off again ;) ;)
Can be a bit hit and miss >:(
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For me the auto wipers sounds a bit like having an 'auto-brake' system - you'd never implement such a thing without leaving a brake pedal there, in case of the need to brake. Same as with the wipers, shame there isn't the intermittent function left in place for times when the auto function doesn't quite get it right. But that's splitting hairs and I'm still interested in this :)
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Auto wipers are a distraction and a nuisance. They never work the way you want them to.
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For me the auto wipers sounds a bit like having an 'auto-brake' system - you'd never implement such a thing without leaving a brake pedal there, in case of the need to brake. Same as with the wipers, shame there isn't the intermittent function left in place for times when the auto function doesn't quite get it right. But that's splitting hairs and I'm still interested in this :)
Surely the 'flick wipe' function is still there ???
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As I understand it, yes - but you lose the little rotating wheel to set the seconds delay bit.
I know I'm drivign a car with brakes that automatically don't lock, driven wheels that automatically don't wheelspin, and engine with an automatic choke, automatic timing, automatic ignition, and electrically automated windows, a climate control that's automatic, so for me to be sceptical about automatic wipers seems a bit daft of me, really.
I suppose converting a car from auto wipers back to 'standard' would be a simple case of the relay and stalk, yes? Just leave the sensor etc in place should you ever wish to revert back to auto wipers again?
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As I understand it, yes - but you lose the little rotating wheel to set the seconds delay bit.
I know I'm drivign a car with brakes that automatically don't lock, driven wheels that automatically don't wheelspin, and engine with an automatic choke, automatic timing, automatic ignition, and electrically automated windows, a climate control that's automatic, so for me to be sceptical about automatic wipers seems a bit daft of me, really.
I suppose converting a car from auto wipers back to 'standard' would be a simple case of the relay and stalk, yes? Just leave the sensor etc in place should you ever wish to revert back to auto wipers again?
Facelift cars don't have this function, which is why the auto wipers were seen by GM as an improvement :y
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As I understand it, yes - but you lose the little rotating wheel to set the seconds delay bit.
I know I'm drivign a car with brakes that automatically don't lock, driven wheels that automatically don't wheelspin, and engine with an automatic choke, automatic timing, automatic ignition, and electrically automated windows, a climate control that's automatic, so for me to be sceptical about automatic wipers seems a bit daft of me, really.
I suppose converting a car from auto wipers back to 'standard' would be a simple case of the relay and stalk, yes? Just leave the sensor etc in place should you ever wish to revert back to auto wipers again?
Facelift cars don't have this function, which is why the auto wipers were seen by GM as an improvement :y
Mine do....
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None of my 3.2s do/did :-\
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Not got a good word to say about the autowipers fitted to late Elites. The adjustable intermittent was far more useful.
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None of my 3.2s do/did :-\
Just popped outside to look at the 3 I have here:
2.2 2001 CDX yes
2.5 2000 CD yes
2.2 2003 CD no
Dropped on later cars?
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For me the auto wipers sounds a bit like having an 'auto-brake' system - you'd never implement such a thing without leaving a brake pedal there, in case of the need to brake. Same as with the wipers, shame there isn't the intermittent function left in place for times when the auto function doesn't quite get it right. But that's splitting hairs and I'm still interested in this :)
Surely the 'flick wipe' function is still there ???
No unfortunately. :(
You have to switch off then on again (and savour the 'quality' of the bendy plastic indicator stalk ::))
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For me the auto wipers sounds a bit like having an 'auto-brake' system - you'd never implement such a thing without leaving a brake pedal there, in case of the need to brake. Same as with the wipers, shame there isn't the intermittent function left in place for times when the auto function doesn't quite get it right. But that's splitting hairs and I'm still interested in this :)
Surely the 'flick wipe' function is still there ???
No unfortunately. :(
You have to switch off then on again (and savour the 'quality' of the bendy plastic indicator stalk ::))
Both mine (one with manual variable intermittent, and one with rain sensing) allow a flick wipe
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As rains sensing wipers go, omega ones are very good ime.
But those that don't like them, don't like rain sensing wipers. And that's that.
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As rains sensing wipers go, omega ones are very good ime.
But those that don't like them, don't like rain sensing wipers. And that's that.
I'd say they are just an early example with no programmability. Inshitnias aren't too bad.
My issue with the Omega ones on the chavmobile is that they aren't too keen to starting initial wipe on any given journey, but once they have, they are way too keen, often going full chuff when 1 3s intermittent would be perfect. So inevitably, I turn then off and use a manual flick every few seconds.
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I can accuse mine of being a bit slow to start. But that's all. I wonder if there's an element of over focusing, rather than just let them do their job. Tbh. And if the area over the sensor is clean..?
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I can accuse mine of being a bit slow to start. But that's all. I wonder if there's an element of over focusing, rather than just let them do their job. Tbh. And if the area over the sensor is clean..?
I guess we all want wipers to do different things depending on our own preferences. For me, mine may as well be a switch to fast wipe was soon as you get any constant drizzle, when an intermittent would do.
I've not driven many other rain sensing enabled Omegas in the wet, but never noticed any differences.
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For instance h's old golf was ridiculous. Wiping when not raining, and when raining they wouldn't come on. Similar with the auto lights. Both massively over sensitive when not needed, but unresponsive when they are.
This is not an omega issue though. Which does have the odd loopy, but clean the screen, bit of rain x, new wipers, with the superior rain sensing, and a damn good storm is non event as far as visibility goes. Ime.
Can only speak as we find for the op. :)
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Can only speak as we find for the op. :)
Aye :y
To the OP, I wouldn't replace the earlier adjustable intermittent wipe for rain sensing. If I was unlucky enough to have an Omega with just a non adjustable intermittent (late Omegas, or early base models), I would definitely retrofit the adjustable intermittent. I certainly wouldn't retrofit rain sensing on an Omega. If I had a car with rain sensing (which I do, but I don't ever get to drive it), would I upgrade to adjustable intermittent? That's a tough one. Possibly.
If I had a later implementation that worked better, that's a different story.
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Op, I think TB's experience is not usual for rain sensing wipers.
But would I go to the bother of retro fitting...? Nah, bugger that.
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Op, I think TB's experience is not usual for rain sensing wipers.
I generally like them on current cars, takes a bit of driving to get used to them still (like lane changing indicators and auto lights). But on the Omega, they tend to frustrate me, in the same way the TD autobox used to frustrate me. You find yourself shouting at the car :-[
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J you shout anyway. The mind set is shouty before you even get in the damn thing. ;D
Your omega rain sensing wipers are, Ime, unusual. That's all really. I've had three all the same. Or maybe I'm less irritable/or irritated by them. But they certainly don't go too fast unnecessarily in the three I've had. Yours, therefor, seems to me, to be unusual.
Which means the op shouldn't take your post as normal behaviour. He might be disappointed if he didn't fit them as a result.
....then again if they do behave like yours do, then he might be ;D
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Bloody heap of crock :P. PFL is far superior! ;D
I don't think mine are unusual for Omegas. I think the only people who like them would be drivers who regularly would drive with wipers on full pelt :P
Anyway, we're possibly disgressing. OP has mine and your views :)
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I rarely use anything other than the intermittent setting, but I wish that it was possible to set a longer delay. This is true of most cars I've driven.
Rain-X and good condition wipers are essential. Cleaning the screen occasionally is a good idea too!
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Bloody heap of crock :P. PFL is far superior! ;D
I don't think mine are unusual for Omegas. I think the only people who like them would be drivers who regularly would drive with wipers on full pelt :P
Anyway, we're possibly disgressing. OP has mine and your views :)
;D yes but my view is, naturally, superior ;D
;D ;D ;D :y
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I rarely use anything other than the intermittent setting, but I wish that it was possible to set a longer delay. This is true of most cars I've driven.
Rain-X and good condition wipers are essential. Cleaning the screen occasionally is a good idea too!
:y :y :y :y
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Thanks for your input, chaps. I'll mull over your feedback, although I dare say that the availability of windscreen types will have an influence over the final decision! That said, the windscreen fitters that I spoke to didn't seem to think that there would be any difficulty in getting hold of either. I'll be sure to report back...
:y
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Just a further input. Mine, yesterday, am, light drizzle, some heavy drizzle, then no rain....
....then a splash from a lorry. Not once did I fiddle with the wiper stalk or more importantly did I wish to adjust the sensativity in the 40minute journey.
They always are, in my case, a bit lazy to wake up at first use though, for some reason. But a tickle of the stalk and away we go.
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On a related note...
Can anyone confirm the relay P/N please?
Looking at a two week wait for the heat reflective/rain sensor screen... potentially coming from Vauxhall...
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I spent the weekend driving to and from the Nurburgring in the FN2 Civic Type R GT from Honda's own heritage centre. The car featured rain-sensor wipers that faultlessly/accurately stopped, started and changed speed according to the weather conditions (as you would expect), although I'm sure that you could set it to work intermittently instead. Dual feature frenzy! Now there's an idea...
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I spent the weekend driving to and from the Nurburgring in the FN2 Civic Type R GT from Honda's own heritage centre. The car featured rain-sensor wipers that faultlessly/accurately stopped, started and changed speed according to the weather conditions (as you would expect), although I'm sure that you could set it to work intermittently instead. Dual feature frenzy! Now there's an idea...
I had rain sensitive wipers on a 406 which worked adequately IIRC, and I have intermittent adjustable wipers on my '99TD, and I prefer the latter, and I do miss it on my F/L Elite, even with the relay fix. :y
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On a related note...
Can anyone confirm the relay P/N please?
Looking at a two week wait for the heat reflective/rain sensor screen... potentially coming from Vauxhall...
VW part number 357 955 531 gleaned from KW here: http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1281183577 :y
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Just a further input. Mine, yesterday, am, light drizzle, some heavy drizzle, then no rain....
....then a splash from a lorry. Not once did I fiddle with the wiper stalk or more importantly did I wish to adjust the sensativity in the 40minute journey.
They always are, in my case, a bit lazy to wake up at first use though, for some reason. But a tickle of the stalk and away we go.
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Just a further input. Mine, yesterday, am, light drizzle, some heavy drizzle, then no rain....
....then a splash from a lorry. Not once did I fiddle with the wiper stalk or more importantly did I wish to adjust the sensativity in the 40minute journey.
They always are, in my case, a bit lazy to wake up at first use though, for some reason. But a tickle of the stalk and away we go.
Oh ok. I guess turning them on isn't aloud by the sound of it ;D
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Does 0 332 209 142 sound about right for the relay?
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Does 0 332 209 142 sound about right for the relay?
Isn't the one I gave you above the one you want? ???
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The VW one adds variable intermittent to the standard set up :y
Relay number above is the one for rain sensing ones :y
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The VW one adds variable intermittent to the standard set up :y
Relay number above is the one for rain sensing ones :y
Ah sorry, misunderstood your request. :y
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video about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvl370BBUk
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Put mine through an auto car wash last week. Left some residue on the screen. Wipers went mental. Flat out within a few strokes.
Cleaned screen. Back to normal.
Just saying. :)
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While they aren't perfect, every Omega I've had has had them fitted and most of the time they are well behaved.
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Since this thread started the weather seems to have suited my cars auto wipers - daylight, good visibility and either 'proper' rain or dry.
What they are useless at is low light and mist or mizzle (ie typical Cornish conditions........)
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0 332 209 142 is that the part number for retrofitting rain sensor Al?
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0 332 209 142 is that the part number for retrofitting rain sensor Al?
It should be the relay you require that replaces the tall one in the engine bay fuse box... Unable to categorically confirm until my new screen arrives... :-\
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can you let me know if it is al so I can find one myself?
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can you let me know if it is al so I can find one myself?
0 332 209 142 is that the part number for retrofitting rain sensor Al?
It should be the relay you require that replaces the tall one in the engine bay fuse box... Unable to categorically confirm until my new screen arrives... :-\
It's on back order, so best not hold your breath... ::)
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Is it a yellow one? Two on ebay.
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Is it a yellow one? Two on ebay.
Factory equipped cars have two short yellow relays in the engine fuse box... I have had three days off since the Wycombe meet and have yet to look through the wiring diagrams to confirm which does what... It may be that additional wiring and relay is also required, and until I have a sensor compatible screen fitted to the car, I very much doubt I will find out...
Not currently a priority :-X
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I will await for findings mate :y
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Should be plug and play...
Go onto Ebay and acquire the following...
Vectra C autodimming rear view mirror and two piece shroud.
rain sensor from a suitably equipped, ie late Elite Omega,
Wiper relay from same Omega.
Mirror is plug and play, as is sensor, swap the wiper relay and that should be it jobbed :y
No additional wiring required (fitting to facelift MV6)?
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Was wondering about relay. But al is on it :y
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109857.0
Original thread in Dutch.
http://www.opelomegaportal.nl/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35
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or you can fit the 99 relay from a vw and get programmable timed intermittent :)
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or you can fit the 99 relay from a vw and get programmable timed intermittent :)
which is simple and works really well .. had it for several years now with no problems at all
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correct :y
(http://s15.postimg.org/qg3xuaj7r/99vw.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qg3xuaj7r/) (http://s15.postimg.org/qrle71znr/vw99.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qrle71znr/)
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
Ah but that's where your all completely and utterly wrong, because, you haven't cleaned your screen properly. Behaves perfectly, just does. Accepte it, deal with it, and move on. But remember...
....clean your screen. Especially where the sensor is. Obviously. ::) ;)
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
Ah but that's where your all completely and utterly wrong, because, you haven't cleaned your screen properly. Behaves perfectly, just does. Accepte it, deal with it, and move on. But remember...
....clean your screen. Especially where the sensor is. Obviously. ::) ;)
Nope, we all know you are completely and utterly wrong. The system fitted to later Elites is poor. Almost like it was an early prototype to learn from for later cars.
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I find rain-x and intermittent,adequate.
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This applies to all cars, not just Omegas: clean the screen thoroughly; replace the wiper blades(and arms if you have any doubts) and Rain-X the screen. This works.
I do wish the intermittent wipe could be adjusted for a longer delay though.
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
Ah but that's where your all completely and utterly wrong, because, you haven't cleaned your screen properly. Behaves perfectly, just does. Accepte it, deal with it, and move on. But remember...
....clean your screen. Especially where the sensor is. Obviously. ::) ;)
Nope, we all know you are completely and utterly wrong. The system fitted to later Elites is poor. Almost like it was an early prototype to learn from for later cars.
See, from posts above, lazy bloody admin again. CLEAN THE DAMN SCREEN. :P
And by clean I don't mean waft a rag over it, I mean clean until a clean cloth comes off clean with no marks on the cloth itself with a proper glass cleaner. Also be weary of machine washes and Hungarivanians magic cleaning potions. They leave residue the sensor sees and tries to wipe off.
If honest with ones self, you'll see said residue on the screen anyway. WONT YOU JAMIE ::) ;D
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...and ghost do you know anyway, you don't even drive the bloody thing. :D
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Rain sensing wipers, on all cars, are useless and a waste of time.......in my opinion, of course. :)
Clean the screen properly, not just a quick wipe, and they may work....for a while.
On the other hand, with normal wipers, your screen will clean itself with rainwater...seemples.
Bidet or bogroll? ;D
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They will work fine, if no residue applied from elsewhere. Another lazy arse talking.
...although her golf auto wipers where poor at best.
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They will work fine, if no residue applied from elsewhere. Another lazy arse talking.
...although her golf auto wipers where poor at best.
Not lazy at all. Rain sensing wipers are supposed to be a driver aid, a convenience, superior to actually having to fart around with a stalk/switch. Not much use if you have to clean your windscreen thoroughly to make them work properly. Easier to use the switch and let the wipers clean your screen.
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They will work fine, if no residue applied from elsewhere. Another lazy arse talking.
...although her golf auto wipers where poor at best.
Not lazy at all. Rain sensing wipers are supposed to be a driver aid, a convenience, superior to actually having to fart around with a stalk/switch. Not much use if you have to clean your windscreen thoroughly to make them work properly. Easier to use the switch and let the wipers clean your screen.
My thoughts exactly.
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Rubbish. You look through the screen right? Or drive via a Tomtom so don't need to look out. ;D
If your auto wipers don't work as desired, your screens dirty. Prudent to clean it I'd say ::)
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Yes. You are right, everyone else is wrong..talking rubbish. :y
What's it like in your bubble...warm and cosy? As long as the idiots can't get in. ;D
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Yes. You are right, everyone else is wrong..talking rubbish. :y
What's it like in your bubble...warm and cosy? As long as the idiots can't get in. ;D
Absolutely. Glad your finally undystandying. Now go clean your windscreen (sigh...)
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I use the wipers and screenwash to keep the screen clean in normal conditions. If a pterodactyl craps on it then I clean that off.
My auto wipers work fine in daylight and real rain, they are just useless in poor light and mist/drizzle, borderline dangerous in fact because the screen is too dry to leave the wipers scratching away at the screen but they refuse to wipe the fine mist off the screen making vision near impossible with oncoming headlights. Intermittent wipe would be really useful however. >:(
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Yes. You are right, everyone else is wrong..talking rubbish. :y
What's it like in your bubble...warm and cosy? As long as the idiots can't get in. ;D
Bugger, another STMO post I agree with ::)
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I use the wipers and screenwash to keep the screen clean in normal conditions. If a pterodactyl craps on it then I clean that off.
My auto wipers work fine in daylight and real rain, they are just useless in poor light and mist/drizzle, borderline dangerous in fact because the screen is too dry to leave the wipers scratching away at the screen but they refuse to wipe the fine mist off the screen making vision near impossible with oncoming headlights. Intermittent wipe would be really useful however. >:(
Yes, so, I think one will find, if you clean... On never mind. Not my bloody car/life/visibility.
...ffs just clean the screen ;D ;D ;D
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I use the wipers and screenwash to keep the screen clean in normal conditions. If a pterodactyl craps on it then I clean that off.
My auto wipers work fine in daylight and real rain, they are just useless in poor light and mist/drizzle, borderline dangerous in fact because the screen is too dry to leave the wipers scratching away at the screen but they refuse to wipe the fine mist off the screen making vision near impossible with oncoming headlights. Intermittent wipe would be really useful however. >:(
Yes, so, I think one will find, if you clean... On never mind. Not my bloody car/life/visibility.
...ffs just clean the screen ;D ;D ;D
The screen is clean ffs ;D ;D ;D
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I use the wipers and screenwash to keep the screen clean in normal conditions. If a pterodactyl craps on it then I clean that off.
My auto wipers work fine in daylight and real rain, they are just useless in poor light and mist/drizzle, borderline dangerous in fact because the screen is too dry to leave the wipers scratching away at the screen but they refuse to wipe the fine mist off the screen making vision near impossible with oncoming headlights. Intermittent wipe would be really useful however. >:(
Yes, so, I think one will find, if you clean... On never mind. Not my bloody car/life/visibility.
...ffs just clean the screen ;D ;D ;D
The screen is clean ffs ;D ;D ;D
No it's not! It can't be. Cause if it was they'd work perfectly. Stupid idiot. ;D
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I use the wipers and screenwash to keep the screen clean in normal conditions. If a pterodactyl craps on it then I clean that off.
My auto wipers work fine in daylight and real rain, they are just useless in poor light and mist/drizzle, borderline dangerous in fact because the screen is too dry to leave the wipers scratching away at the screen but they refuse to wipe the fine mist off the screen making vision near impossible with oncoming headlights. Intermittent wipe would be really useful however. >:(
;D
Yes, so, I think one will find, if you clean... On never mind. Not my bloody car/life/visibility.
...ffs just clean the screen ;D ;D ;D
The screen is clean ffs ;D ;D ;D
No it's not! It can't be. Cause if it was they'd work perfectly. Stupid idiot. ;D
;D
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See. Knew you'd get there in the end :P ;D
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
Ah but that's where your all completely and utterly wrong, because, you haven't cleaned your screen properly. Behaves perfectly, just does. Accepte it, deal with it, and move on. But remember...
....clean your screen. Especially where the sensor is. Obviously. ::) ;)
Nope, we all know you are completely and utterly wrong. The system fitted to later Elites is poor. Almost like it was an early prototype to learn from for later cars.
See, from posts above, lazy bloody admin again. CLEAN THE DAMN SCREEN. :P
And by clean I don't mean waft a rag over it, I mean clean until a clean cloth comes off clean with no marks on the cloth itself with a proper glass cleaner. Also be weary of machine washes and Hungarivanians magic cleaning potions. They leave residue the sensor sees and tries to wipe off.
If honest with ones self, you'll see said residue on the screen anyway. WONT YOU JAMIE ::) ;D
Glass polished inside and out usually weekly.
The issue with the pieces of shit useless rain (inability to) sense wipers is even by my standards, they are hopelessly slow to see rain to begin with, so you have to turn them off and on manually to get them to start, after which they go into ful turbo mode if there is a mist drop at 500 paces.
Hopeless.
And every time I use it in the rain, I remember why they are such as step backwards from the adjustable intermittent type.
That's the advantage of having both types, it highlights the shit parts from each ;)
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I have the 99 learning relay in the 3.2 and traditional dial setup in 2.2.
I prefer, by miles the 2.2 - I find the 3.2 fine on first set. It's re-adjuating it in changeable conditions, I find the 2.2 far better with the dial for a quick change. Rather than cancel, flick, count and set. Just adjust the dial :)
Where as the standard rain sending wipers. One click, job jobbed. :y ;D
But we all know the original variable intermittent wipe system is far better than the schoolboy first attempt GM slapped on the later Omegas....
The fixed delay intermittent wipe fitted to my 1994 CD was more useful than the random wipe (optimistically called "rain sensitive") fitted to my 2003 Elite :(
Ah but that's where your all completely and utterly wrong, because, you haven't cleaned your screen properly. Behaves perfectly, just does. Accepte it, deal with it, and move on. But remember...
....clean your screen. Especially where the sensor is. Obviously. ::) ;)
Nope, we all know you are completely and utterly wrong. The system fitted to later Elites is poor. Almost like it was an early prototype to learn from for later cars.
See, from posts above, lazy bloody admin again. CLEAN THE DAMN SCREEN. :P
And by clean I don't mean waft a rag over it, I mean clean until a clean cloth comes off clean with no marks on the cloth itself with a proper glass cleaner. Also be weary of machine washes and Hungarivanians magic cleaning potions. They leave residue the sensor sees and tries to wipe off.
If honest with ones self, you'll see said residue on the screen anyway. WONT YOU JAMIE ::) ;D
Glass polished inside and out usually weekly.
The issue with the pieces of shit useless rain (inability to) sense wipers is even by my standards, they are hopelessly slow to see rain to begin with, so you have to turn them off and on manually to get them to start, after which they go into ful turbo mode if there is a mist drop at 500 paces.
Hopeless.
And every time I use it in the rain, I remember why they are such as step backwards from the adjustable intermittent type.
That's the advantage of having both types, it highlights the shit parts from each ;)
Nope. Completely wrong as usual. They are by far the superior design. Turn on. Job jobbed. Leave them on when it stops raining. They stay off. Starts raining, they start again.
Talking bollards again MrLazyadmincan'tcleanascreentosavehisLifefdontusepolishuseaglassCLEANERFFS! ;D
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ITS A BLOODY GLASS POLISH. FOR CLEANING GLASS PROPERLY.
Jeez.
Accept they are shite unless you drive everywhere with the bloody things on full chat. This is why you HAVE to use the stupid, inferior aero type wipers, which in themselves are piss poor at cleaning. But I suspect you'll argue that for the sake of it.
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ITS A BLOODY GLASS POLISH. FOR CLEANING GLASS PROPERLY.
Jeez.
Accept they are shite unless you drive everywhere with the bloody things on full chat. This is why you HAVE to use the stupid, inferior aero type wipers, which in themselves are piss poor at cleaning. But I suspect you'll argue that for the sake of it.
Utter utter bollards. Polish residue on the sensor area isn't going to help. And don't say it won't until you've tried a glass cleaner and got it properly clean.
And the type of blade makes mo odds to the performance of the auto wipers. Now go and troll someone else. There's no reality in your posts these days. Far to busy "stimulating discussion" talking crap. :P
They work fine. As usual with a certain Lazybloodtadmin it's the owner at fault.