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Title: British Grand Prix
Post by: Robin Hood on 04 July 2008, 12:34:04
... to move to Donington form 2010  http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=43211

Saw the European when it was held there.  :)

Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: bob.dent on 04 July 2008, 12:47:35
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... to move to Donington form 2010  http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=43211

Saw the European when it was held there.  :)


You obviously got very wet then! ::) I seem to remember that Senna drove a superb wet race and won.

Shame about Silverstone but I do think the trackside viewing is better at Donnington as Silversone is so flat that you can never see very much of the circuit.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2008, 13:04:36
Yeah, saw on BBC earlier.

That means I dont have to become a hermit for the GP weekend :)
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2008, 13:05:25
Downside of Donington, I don't think it will make a good GP circuit.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 July 2008, 13:44:48
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Downside of Donington, I don't think it will make a good GP circuit.

Its not a bad GP circuit but, access is worse than Silverstone!
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Varche on 04 July 2008, 14:09:07
Now that was a great race with the man showing everyone how to drive a wet race on slicks.....

Of course by the time the GP arrives at Donington there will be a new dual carriageway serving just the cct from the M1.

varche
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 July 2008, 14:13:35
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Now that was a great race with the man showing everyone how to drive a wet race on slicks.....

Of course by the time the GP arrives at Donington there will be a new dual carriageway serving just the cct from the M1.

varche

Dream on.....its not even in the planning yet so will take at least another 25 years!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 July 2008, 14:40:04
Easy from the M42/A42
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 July 2008, 15:00:30
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Easy from the M42/A42

Not when there is an event on its not, clogs the motorway, A42, A50, A453 and you need to add an extra 2 hours to your journey if going to the airport....and thats just when the bikes is on!
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: albitz on 04 July 2008, 18:40:44
glad its leaving silverstone,i have always hated the place.donington is (imo)a really nice track but they couldnt run a bath.every year the organisation/facilities at the bike grand prix are a disgrace and every year they promise they will get it right next year.the f1 race is a much bigger event so it could easily overwhelm them very quickly. i would love to see it back at brands,i love the place.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Bandit127 on 04 July 2008, 20:30:09
Queued long enough to get to MotoGP to know that F1 will be a disaster until every A and B road round there is dual carriageway. Like the A43 is now. (Thanks Bernie...)

Yes, it's a better spectator circuit but - as said on BBC earlier - it's too narrow. You've got to think that Silverstone is a better driver's track and more exciting TV.

A long bet, but I think F1 will be back at Silverstone in 2021.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Robin Hood on 05 July 2008, 08:16:45
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You obviously got very wet then! ::) I seem to remember that Senna drove a superb wet race and won.

Was at Barcelona in ’96 as well, when Schumacher won in the wet.  First and last one the wife went.   :D

Interesting to see what upgrades they have planned for the circuit.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: kris9128 on 05 July 2008, 08:24:47
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glad its leaving silverstone,i have always hated the place.donington is (imo)a really nice track but they couldnt run a bath.every year the organisation/facilities at the bike grand prix are a disgrace and every year they promise they will get it right next year.the f1 race is a much bigger event so it could easily overwhelm them very quickly. i would love to see it back at brands,i love the place.

i agree. beautiful track. but is it not a bit narrow for the wider f1 cars they use today. and it's a shame its in kent.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: feeutfo on 05 July 2008, 08:41:34
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Queued long enough to get to MotoGP to know that F1 will be a disaster until every A and B road round there is dual carriageway. Like the A43 is now. (Thanks Bernie...)

Yes, it's a better spectator circuit but - as said on BBC earlier - it's too narrow. You've got to think that Silverstone is a better driver's track and more exciting TV.

A long bet, but I think F1 will be back at Silverstone in 2021.

Personally, i think Bernie is loosing his marbles.
Cant see anyway that this is a positive move for f1 fans. I have spectated and track dayed(on a bike)  both circuits over the years and silverstone is without doubt the better venu, dony is much to narrow for f1 cars to over take, access is a joke, facilitys very poor, and the attitude of the place gets right up my nose.
 The best place to view dony for me is down craner curves. I would rather watch f1 cars through the complex at s.stone myself.
To ride tho, s.stone just about wins but is more expensive, pay your money, make your choice.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 July 2008, 09:06:41
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glad its leaving silverstone,i have always hated the place.donington is (imo)a really nice track but they couldnt run a bath.every year the organisation/facilities at the bike grand prix are a disgrace and every year they promise they will get it right next year.the f1 race is a much bigger event so it could easily overwhelm them very quickly. i would love to see it back at brands,i love the place.


Not that good a track for the cars though and its in a bloody awful place to get to for 95% of the population.

So, very pleased they have continued with somewhere central in the Uk which is where these major once a year big sporting events need to be.

Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 July 2008, 09:07:45
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Queued long enough to get to MotoGP to know that F1 will be a disaster until every A and B road round there is dual carriageway. Like the A43 is now. (Thanks Bernie...)

Yes, it's a better spectator circuit but - as said on BBC earlier - it's too narrow. You've got to think that Silverstone is a better driver's track and more exciting TV.

A long bet, but I think F1 will be back at Silverstone in 2021.

Personally, i think Bernie is loosing his marbles.
Cant see anyway that this is a positive move for f1 fans. I have spectated and track dayed(on a bike)  both circuits over the years and silverstone is without doubt the better venu, dony is much to narrow for f1 cars to over take, access is a joke, facilitys very poor, and the attitude of the place gets right up my nose.
 The best place to view dony for me is down craner curves. I would rather watch f1 cars through the complex at s.stone myself.
To ride tho, s.stone just about wins but is more expensive, pay your money, make your choice.

You wont recognise the circuit, its being totally re-laid and re-designed for the F1.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: TheBoy on 05 July 2008, 12:29:03
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Queued long enough to get to MotoGP to know that F1 will be a disaster until every A and B road round there is dual carriageway. Like the A43 is now. (Thanks Bernie...)

Yes, it's a better spectator circuit but - as said on BBC earlier - it's too narrow. You've got to think that Silverstone is a better driver's track and more exciting TV.

A long bet, but I think F1 will be back at Silverstone in 2021.

Personally, i think Bernie is loosing his marbles.
Cant see anyway that this is a positive move for f1 fans. I have spectated and track dayed(on a bike)  both circuits over the years and silverstone is without doubt the better venu, dony is much to narrow for f1 cars to over take, access is a joke, facilitys very poor, and the attitude of the place gets right up my nose.
 The best place to view dony for me is down craner curves. I would rather watch f1 cars through the complex at s.stone myself.
To ride tho, s.stone just about wins but is more expensive, pay your money, make your choice.

You wont recognise the circuit, its being totally re-laid and re-designed for the F1.
And probably lose a lot of its charm in the process :(
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: TheBoy on 05 July 2008, 12:31:51
Narrow tracks? F1? Does it matter? With the current stupid rules for about last 7 or 8yrs, track only needs to be one car width, as they gay boys won't overtake anyway
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: albitz on 05 July 2008, 23:36:22
stop the mickey mouse re-fuelling /tyre stops and they will find a way of overtaking on the track. :y
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: albitz on 05 July 2008, 23:45:27
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Queued long enough to get to MotoGP to know that F1 will be a disaster until every A and B road round there is dual carriageway. Like the A43 is now. (Thanks Bernie...)

Yes, it's a better spectator circuit but - as said on BBC earlier - it's too narrow. You've got to think that Silverstone is a better driver's track and more exciting TV.

A long bet, but I think F1 will be back at Silverstone in 2021.

Personally, i think Bernie is loosing his marbles.
Cant see anyway that this is a positive move for f1 fans. I have spectated and track dayed(on a bike)  both circuits over the years and silverstone is without doubt the better venu, dony is much to narrow for f1 cars to over take, access is a joke, facilitys very poor, and the attitude of the place gets right up my nose.
 The best place to view dony for me is down craner curves. I would rather watch f1 cars through the complex at s.stone myself.
To ride tho, s.stone just about wins but is more expensive, pay your money, make your choice.

You wont recognise the circuit, its being totally re-laid and re-designed for the F1.
And probably lose a lot of its charm in the process :(
sadly ,you are almost certainly right.i thought the old silverstone was better than the new one.i still remember keke rosberg doing his 150mph lap on a drying track back in the eighties,and lighting up a fag to celebrate when he got out of the car.gonads like water melons.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: feeutfo on 06 July 2008, 02:00:02
But on the other hand, just watched qualifying  and the Dony deal comes with obligations to improve the whole show at donington including access facilitys run off and lengthening the track. And that can only be a good thing, we will then have 2 f1 spec circuits.  Just a question of how long it takes them to sort it. Bloody ages if i know them at all.  
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 July 2008, 19:11:46
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Narrow tracks? F1? Does it matter? With the current stupid rules for about last 7 or 8yrs, track only needs to be one car width, as they gay boys won't overtake anyway


Plenty today
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Debs. on 06 July 2008, 19:13:00
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Narrow tracks? F1? Does it matter? With the current stupid rules for about last 7 or 8yrs, track only needs to be one car width, as they gay boys won't overtake anyway

 ;D I knew it! ;D
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: albitz on 06 July 2008, 19:15:43
rain is usually a great leveller,it would appear that hamilton has that senna like quality of superhuman feel in the wet,impressive to watch. :y.....if they removed a lot of the aerodynamic grip we could have a lot more overtaking.
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 July 2008, 19:21:39
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stop the mickey mouse re-fuelling /tyre stops and they will find a way of overtaking on the track. :y
Wont need to soon, they'll all be diesel ;)
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Varche on 07 July 2008, 11:30:24
My vote goes for sprinklers or a misting system for every Grand prix cct. I personally will impartially decide before the start the severity and incidence of "rain".

The drivers with ability show through.  I thought Hamilton was true class even though he had an off like others. Massa just confirmed what I have always thought about him.

Plenty of overtaking on Sunday.

Roll on the next wet race.

varche
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 July 2008, 11:43:40
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My vote goes for sprinklers or a misting system for every Grand prix cct. I personally will impartially decide before the start the severity and incidence of "rain".

The drivers with ability show through.  I thought Hamilton was true class even though he had an off like others. Massa just confirmed what I have always thought about him.

Plenty of overtaking on Sunday.

Roll on the next wet race.

varche


I think this just shows that, in the dry, the skill of the drivers is not being tested at all. Surely testing skill is what sport is all about?

Kevin
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: albitz on 07 July 2008, 14:06:54
imo the balance has shifted much too far away from the driver.far too much aero generated grip,carbon brakes deny chances for brave late brakers,too much electronic everything,engineers directing drivers from the pits via radio,pit stops almost removing the need to try to overtake,ex ferrari chief being number 2 at the fia makes a level playing field doubtful.vast sums of money involved always makes for less sport/more corruption.on the bright side -schumacher is long gone. :)
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: TheBoy on 07 July 2008, 14:12:02
ban wings, as I've always said...
Title: Re: British Grand Prix
Post by: MaxV6 on 07 July 2008, 14:40:30
yea, it was a piss poor follow on to the beatles....
 :y