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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 11:52:54

Title: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 11:52:54
Picked up the parts i ordered from vauxhall dealers and had a chat with the parts man . They use to do tc ect but haven't for a few years now . But he did his best to discount the 5/30 oil which was something like £64 down to £14 , he said although its not as good a deal as tc he will do his best to get as much discount as possible for me on a regular basis on anything :) Very helpful i thought  :) Asked about the 20 litre drums and he said even when they were tc they never had any orders for the 20 litre ones  :-\
So although i have sorted my supply of oil out from another place i thought he was very helpful in trying his best .

There not all bad  :y
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: ted_one on 15 May 2015, 12:05:14
I have just come back from my local VX dealer and just out of interest I asked him to quote me for a 3.0 Ltr exhaust system, £502 Nah!! not for me.
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 12:11:31
Interestingly while talking about Omega's he was saying they never really had many problems with them . Then i asked about cam cover gaskets and he said a while back vauxhall recommended that the cam covers themselves were to be changed routinely  :o the actual seals were never a problem  :y
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 May 2015, 12:15:40
Yes the parts guy at my local dealer told me the same and when he was in the workshops they used to look after Devon and Cornwall Constabulary's Omega's, they changed the covers and gaskets routinely.  ::)

I guess if money is no object!  :y
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 May 2015, 12:18:52
I have just come back from my local VX dealer and just out of interest I asked him to quote me for a 3.0 Ltr exhaust system, £502 Nah!! not for me.

A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. ;D
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 12:30:01
Yes the parts guy at my local dealer told me the same and when he was in the workshops they used to look after Devon and Cornwall Constabulary's Omega's, they changed the covers and gaskets routinely. ::)

I guess if money is no object!  :y

Wonder how much the covers are each  ::) But surely if torqued down correctly they would be ok to use again and again  ::)
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 May 2015, 12:35:48
About £220 for a set of 2 including O rings and gaskets. So not that much more really than just the gaskets.  ::)

I wonder if they go out of shape eventually even if they are fitted correctly....  :-\  They are plastic after all and subjected to high temperatures and vibrations.  :-\  ::)
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: aaronjb on 15 May 2015, 12:39:39
There has to be something in Vx fitting metal covers to the Vectra (which I would think are more expensive to make than plastic ones) which came out a couple of years after the Omega.. perhaps they'd figured out that plastic was a bit .. poor.
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 12:44:14
There has to be something in Vx fitting metal covers to the Vectra (which I would think are more expensive to make than plastic ones) which came out a couple of years after the Omega.. perhaps they'd figured out that plastic was a bit .. poor.

Had the metal ones on my V6 Vectra , in 3 years never had any problem with oil leaks so there must be something in it  :y
We know there not recommended on here for a reason but do the maintenance an i dont see a problem .. prices of metal rocker covers has gone up lately and becoming hard to find .
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 May 2015, 12:53:01
When I did my headgaskets last year I did consider a new set of camcovers, but found a reasonable set on a scrapper which seemed to do the job. I've now got a slight drip again...  ::) 

I expect though that the crankseals are suspect after 230,000 miles.  :-\
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: EMD on 15 May 2015, 12:58:40
When I did my headgaskets last year I did consider a new set of camcovers, but found a reasonable set on a scrapper which seemed to do the job. I've now got a slight drip again...  ::) 

I expect though that the crankseals are suspect after 230,000 miles.  :-\

Only 100.000 behind you .  Just had the front c seal done on mine an it was pishing out oil  ::) Cam seals ok though but on genuine gaskets .. Did you check they were not warped last time ? Wonder if putting them in the oven would flatten them out  ::) ;D :-\
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 May 2015, 13:09:08
I think the term 'warped' that people use on here is misleading to be honest as it give the impression that they are twisted like a piece of wood.  ;)

In my experience they tend to spread outwards making them more of an oval shape, which you would kind expect if they were over tightened.  ::)  but as said earlier I wonder if they do this anyway over time.  :-\
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 May 2015, 14:54:02
Yes the parts guy at my local dealer told me the same and when he was in the workshops they used to look after Devon and Cornwall Constabulary's Omega's, they changed the covers and gaskets routinely.  ::)

I guess if money is no object!  :y
That might explain why D and C only admitted to owning my first Omega because they were listed on the V5 as being it's first keeper ;D
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 May 2015, 15:00:11
There has to be something in Vx fitting metal covers to the Vectra (which I would think are more expensive to make than plastic ones) which came out a couple of years after the Omega.. perhaps they'd figured out that plastic was a bit .. poor.

Had the metal ones on my V6 Vectra , in 3 years never had any problem with oil leaks so there must be something in it  :y
We know there not recommended on here for a reason but do the maintenance an i dont see a problem .. prices of metal rocker covers has gone up lately and becoming hard to find .
Two points...

DBW Vectra B/C have plastic cover fitted from new... must be a reason for this...

In Vectra mode, the inlet design is VERY different, this includes the breathers hence not recommending the use of earlier Vectra covers on the Omega...

Of course ignoring the fact that the oil filler is then in an oppsing stupid place so you cannot actually put oil into the engine :-X
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Terbs on 15 May 2015, 15:11:46
Yes the parts guy at my local dealer told me the same and when he was in the workshops they used to look after Devon and Cornwall Constabulary's Omega's, they changed the covers and gaskets routinely.  ::)

I guess if money is no object!  :y
That might explain why D and C only admitted to owning my first Omega because they were listed on the V5 as being it's first keeper ;D

What a small world...my cousin was a mechanic, working on D & C Omega's, etc, for years. Just retired....could well have worked on yours, Al
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 May 2015, 15:26:55
Indeed it is :D

Reg was WA51YNG if he remembers it... White 3.2 manual estate. Curious to know why they were so quick to distance themselves from it ;)
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Andy B on 15 May 2015, 15:46:02
.... so you cannot actually put oil into the engine :-X

Dip stick tube ......  ::)
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 May 2015, 16:00:50
.... so you cannot actually put oil into the engine :-X

Dip stick tube ......  ::)
Now there's a solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist :D
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: Andy B on 15 May 2015, 16:10:22
.... so you cannot actually put oil into the engine :-X

Dip stick tube ......  ::)
Now there's a solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist :D

 ;D ;D ;D I just thought that if I use the dip stick tube to remove oil from our Smart then you could pour it in there ...... might take a while though, especially on a cold day  :y
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: TheBoy on 15 May 2015, 19:08:35
Asked about the 20 litre drums and he said even when they were tc they never had any orders for the 20 litre ones  :-\
2 years ago, it was same price to buy 4 x 5l, and far more convenient. So if he was kicked out with the launch of Trade Club 2, he probably wouldn't have sold many 20l drums ;)
Title: Re: Talking to vauxhall parts man
Post by: chrisgixer on 15 May 2015, 20:37:24
I have just come back from my local VX dealer and just out of interest I asked him to quote me for a 3.0 Ltr exhaust system, £502 Nah!! not for me.
Thats a non Tc price. Tc is £300. Now I'm sure you've been a member her long enough to know that £300 for the Oe system was an absolute bargain. But then they changed it to the shite bosal style crap they sell now on Tc, and.... Your absolutely right, still not worth the money. ;D

Plus they do spit the packing out and block.