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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: EMD on 29 May 2015, 12:43:16
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I think they have a few problems but boy are they cheap now :o There's a 1999 V6 lpg one going for £250 ending soon with 6 months mot ... Now whats not to like :-\
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I think they have a few problems but boy are they cheap now :o There's a 1999 V6 lpg one going for £250 ending soon with 6 months mot ... Now whats not to like
now there a question....gearboxes and transfer boxes I thought were the problem
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Ad says it drives faultless :D Was there a problem with front suspension wear too ?
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Ad says it drives faultless :D Was there a problem with front suspension wear too ?
You should be well experienced with that by now! ::) ;D
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I think they have a few problems but boy are they cheap now :o There's a 1999 V6 lpg one going for £250 ending soon with 6 months mot ... Now whats not to like :-\
"They have a few problems but boy they are cheap"
"1999 V6 lpg"
"£250"
What other car can we say this about?
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All in all a good buy then ::) After 6 months sell it on for a profit ...
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Suppose it's like any car - could be good, could be bad. I suppose in theory you're never going to lose loads on money on it, if it breaks and the scrap man takes it away in 6 months for £100 it's not the worst financial decision in the history of the world.
I'd imagine the only bad way to own this car is if you end up loving it, then pouring more and more money into, until you see that a trouble-free motor from the Jag equivalent of OOF (The JOF??) could have been had for only a few hundred more. Buy a sorted car for £1000, or get a banger for £250, then spend the next year and £2000 on it, to get it to nearly the same standard of the £1000 one in the first place.
But if you run it until it goes 'pop' you've invested nothing in it other than the initial £250, of which you'd hope you'd get back most of that selling it as a SORN non-runner on the heebay. Not a massive fan of cheaper is better, but in this case, can't see you losing much on it. :)
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...is this another car for Mr EMD?
How many now .....eight...ten? :D ;D
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I've had a 2001 V8 S-type for about 8 months and its only done 80,000 miles, all for £1200. I cant fault it :y
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I run both a 1999 S type 3.0se (V6) and two similar aged Omegas 2.5 and I have owned them for several years.
I regular service them using genuine GM or Jag parts and the service parts are similarly priced but Jaguar don't have a "trade club" but you can usually get the VAT taken off if you ask!!
The Omegas are used for "day to day" runs whilst the S type is mainly used at weekends.
Over the years the Omegas have proved to be very reliable whilst the S type does tend to have higher maintenance costs and can throw weird electrical glitches and disturbing warning messages without warning. The battery needs to be in tip top condition at all times and I now use one of those "smart" chargers to monitor the battery when the car is not in use. A low performing battery is the usual cause for 99% of these glitches and warning messages.
I have never had any major problems with the engine and gearbox and suspension repairs are no different to the Omegas. Post 2003 cars are regarded as having the better front suspension but the rear is still the same.
The S type is a heavy cars with quite complex suspension which uses a number of unique bushes. However, there are plenty of spares now available from ebay and third party suppliers. Don't forget the Jaguar dealers. They can be quite competitive at times but some parts are now becoming "NLA" (no longer available) or on a long lead times! It also eats tyres when driven hard and they are not cheap. Pirelli P Zeros on mine!
The BIG problem with my S type is rust. I have had to replace both the sills on mine and unless you can do this yourself it will be a car killer. The only source of genuine sills is Jaguar and the last time I priced these up they were around £400+ each. Luckily you can get a pair of basic folded steel sheet repair panels for a fraction of this cost thanks to ebay.
The S type is a great car to drive with plenty of performance and it is a nice car to be in and as the second hand costs have nose dived into the "banger" territory it can be a fantastic bargain. However, buyer beware. If not correctly maintained and with comprehensive history it could be a money pit but can't all bargain basement cars?
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You mean the re badged mondeo, right?
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...is this another car for Mr EMD?
How many now .....eight...ten? :D ;D
Room for 2 more yet :P
Thanks for the info from the others :y
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You mean the re badged mondeo, right?
That's an X-type. The S shares its underpinnings with a Lincoln which we didn't get. And the XF carries a lot of that on.
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You mean the re badged mondeo, right?
There's always one ::)
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You mean the re badged mondeo, right?
There's always one ::)
Sorry I was being polite, that awful pile driven by by Hiyacinth Bucket types you mean. :)
It's a bloody mondeo. And a more rusty one at that usually, I believe?
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(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k536/tidla1/s%20type_zpsrjzww566.jpg)
S type, some ford bits, (ignition switch)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k536/tidla1/x%20type_zpsl3oq00na.jpg)
X type a lot more ford bits ( 2.0 diesel engine)
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I've had a 2001 V8 S-type for about 8 months and its only done 80,000 miles, all for £1200. I cant fault it :y
Must b like shite off a shovel! Did you get the paintwork "situation"sorted Pete?
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You mean the re badged mondeo, right?
There's always one ::)
Sorry I was being polite, that awful pile driven by by Hiyacinth Bucket types you mean. :)
It's a bloody mondeo. And a more rusty one at that usually, I believe?
The S type is not a Mondeo. The X type is the one that shares some of its underpinnings with the mundano.
The S type does suffer, like all Ford era Jags, from being, err, well, Ford. The gearboxes in particular are made of chocolate (more noticeable on V8 petrol and V6 diesel), as are the transfer boxes on 4WD ones.
S type seems to snap front springs like an Omega snaps rears. S type has quite a lot of electrical gremlin type problems - rarely serious enough to cause reliability concern, as these tend to be on ancilliary stuff like windows, entertainment etc.
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Don't they suffer from really bad sill rot?
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We once owned an X-Type Mondeo.
Not an experience I would like to repeat. :'(
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Don't they suffer from really bad sill rot?
Yep :y
Still looks like the S type is a bargain at the minute if your prepared to do the diy , pretty much like the Omega ::)
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(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k536/tidla1/s%20type_zpsrjzww566.jpg)
S type, some ford bits, (ignition switch)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k536/tidla1/x%20type_zpsl3oq00na.jpg)
X type a lot more ford bits ( 2.0 diesel engine)
There are a lot of Ford bits in an S-type, just from an American Ford that wasn't sold here.
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Nowt wrong with fords, they have no more or less problems than any other marque.
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Gearboxes are like the Omega and need an oil and filter change at 80,000 miles
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I've had a 2001 V8 S-type for about 8 months and its only done 80,000 miles, all for £1200. I cant fault it :y
Must b like shite off a shovel! Did you get the paintwork "situation"sorted Pete?
Yes mate thanks, I paid him an unannounced visit last Sunday and got my £50 back as well so i'm well happy :y
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Your Jaguar Dealer will tell you the gearbox is a "sealed for life" item on the Ford sourced gearboxes and needs no oil change.
This is rubbish!! Make sure you have a filter and oil change at 80,000 as indicated in Elite Pete's post.
I do believe that Jaguar have now changed their minds on "sealed for life" gearboxes. Probably due to the massive warranty claims they have had in the past?