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Title: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 31 May 2015, 22:07:51
Linky (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201504283004225/sort/default/usedcars/dealer/712917/page/2/advert-type/dealer-stock?logcode=dsp) . Its the 1.4 T with 140bhp.

Not to drive etc. But in term of known issues, reliability? Do they tend to go manage high mileages?

Test drove one today. Considering it for the better half.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 May 2015, 22:40:46
Buy the one with xenons... Standard lights are woeful :-\ Otherwise not a bad car all told :y
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: henryd on 31 May 2015, 22:47:11
A friend of mines has as 1.4t Astra and the engine went at 20 k miles,massive oil consumption which culminated in total failure, to Vauxhalls credit they fitted brand new lump foc which not bad as warranty had expired,just makes me wonder how common an issue is it that they bent over so easily.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 31 May 2015, 23:14:19
Buy the one with xenons... Standard lights are woeful :-\ Otherwise not a bad car all told :y

Always the case once you have experienced xenon headlamps. Tbh, I was surprised by the space and ride quality. The Focus is supposed to be the class leader, yet other than steering feel, the Vx was better.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 31 May 2015, 23:19:08
A friend of mines has as 1.4t Astra and the engine went at 20 k miles,massive oil consumption which culminated in total failure, to Vauxhalls credit they fitted brand new lump foc which not bad as warranty had expired,just makes me wonder how common an issue is it that they bent over so easily.

Or maybe its the other way round? Loads of BMW engines were self destructing after ingesting swirl flaps, yet BMW did not acknowledge this. Possibly due to the size of the payout, wheres if it is a one off, then it would be an easier pill to swallow.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Shackeng on 01 June 2015, 09:43:40
A friend of mines has as 1.4t Astra and the engine went at 20 k miles,massive oil consumption which culminated in total failure, to Vauxhalls credit they fitted brand new lump foc which not bad as warranty had expired,just makes me wonder how common an issue is it that they bent over so easily.

Or maybe its the other way round? Loads of BMW engines were self destructing after ingesting swirl flaps, yet BMW did not acknowledge this. Possibly due to the size of the payout, wheres if it is a one off, then it would be an easier pill to swallow.

True but highly unlikely IME. :y
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 June 2015, 10:26:15
Bulletproof if serviced well, its a proven engine design which the Saab boys have added a Turbo to, the wife has one in her car its quite nippy yet good on fuel.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 01 June 2015, 23:03:51
Bulletproof if serviced well, its a proven engine design which the Saab boys have added a Turbo to, the wife has one in her car its quite nippy yet good on fuel.

Does that translate to half the manufacturer recommended 12m/20k schedule?

Felt quite quick and despite an extended test drive with a full rev range exploration, the fuel gauge did not move. Unlike the Omega. :y

Choose a solid colour and that car costs £12995, which seems pretty competitive when compared to some of the outrageous prices charged by VW. You can also get the 1.6 NA for £1k less, but it felt pretty lifeless.
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Post by: tunnie on 01 June 2015, 23:07:04
Is same engine used in Zafira? Just as good in that?
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 June 2015, 23:36:43
A very good friend of mine just chopped his 1.4T Astra for the 2.0 Devil Fueled one.  That small Turbo engine needs to be driven hard to get anything out of it.  The Astra J is a rather bloated bit of kit.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 02 June 2015, 00:05:47
A very good friend of mine just chopped his 1.4T Astra for the 2.0 Devil Fueled one.  That small Turbo engine needs to be driven hard to get anything out of it.  The Astra J is a rather bloated bit of kit.

Sorry, did not feel anything like that. Quite the opposite. Drove it expecting to hate it and ended up quite enjoying it. Got my gear change wrong once, third gear at walking pace and expected it to stall. It just pulled off quite happily. The Ford ecoboost 140bhp we drove was similarly good. Both drove quite well, but for some reason I liked the Vx overall.

I would rather wax my nether regions than drive a diesel.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 02 June 2015, 00:12:43
A very good friend of mine just chopped his 1.4T Astra for the 2.0 Devil Fueled one.  That small Turbo engine needs to be driven hard to get anything out of it.  The Astra J is a rather bloated bit of kit.

Sorry, did not feel anything like that. Quite the opposite. Drove it expecting to hate it and ended up quite enjoying it. Got my gear change wrong once, third gear at walking pace and expected it to stall. It just pulled off quite happily. The Ford ecoboost 140bhp we drove was similarly good. Both drove quite well, but for some reason I liked the Vx overall.

I would rather wax my nether regions than drive a diesel.

I'm with you on that!

But, 200Nm V's 350Nm and an extra 20odd horses makes for a massive difference in *usable* power.

I stand by my argument..... 140BHP and 200Nm is very low for a petrol powered car of that weight.... and it shows.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 02 June 2015, 00:20:48
A very good friend of mine just chopped his 1.4T Astra for the 2.0 Devil Fueled one.  That small Turbo engine needs to be driven hard to get anything out of it.  The Astra J is a rather bloated bit of kit.

Sorry, did not feel anything like that. Quite the opposite. Drove it expecting to hate it and ended up quite enjoying it. Got my gear change wrong once, third gear at walking pace and expected it to stall. It just pulled off quite happily. The Ford ecoboost 140bhp we drove was similarly good. Both drove quite well, but for some reason I liked the Vx overall.

I would rather wax my nether regions than drive a diesel.

I'm with you on that!

But, 200Nm V's 350Nm and an extra 20odd horses makes for a massive difference in *usable* power.

I stand by my argument..... 140BHP and 200Nm is very low for a petrol powered car of that weight.... and it shows.

I suspect you are looking at numbers. I am purely going with what I experienced. Plus no matter what the numbers, the way a diesel drives is truly awful. At least for me, even a BMW V6 335d, bloody awful. Hence the OP asking for issues with this engine rather than the drive.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 02 June 2015, 00:32:37

I suspect you are looking at numbers. I am purely going with what I experienced. Plus no matter what the numbers, the way a diesel drives is truly awful. At least for me, even a BMW V6 335d, bloody awful. Hence the OP asking for issues with this engine rather than the drive.

You are quite correct, and I apologise for replying with information you did not need.  Just thought a 'heads up' on how completely crap they were to drive (the 1.4T, (not the Astra J in general)) would have helped in some way.  As a side note, I'm not surprised it felt sprightly compared to the 1.6 NA, what with less BHP and Torques..... but then, that's just figures.

Why not have a shot in the Diseasle?  Just to make a comparison..... if not, hairy-muff - Your money, your choice.... but don't say one half of an apple tastes beter than the other if you haven't had a bite.
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Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 02 June 2015, 00:47:44
A very good friend of mine just chopped his 1.4T Astra for the 2.0 Devil Fueled one.  That small Turbo engine needs to be driven hard to get anything out of it.  The Astra J is a rather bloated bit of kit.

Sorry, did not feel anything like that. Quite the opposite. Drove it expecting to hate it and ended up quite enjoying it. Got my gear change wrong once, third gear at walking pace and expected it to stall. It just pulled off quite happily. The Ford ecoboost 140bhp we drove was similarly good. Both drove quite well, but for some reason I liked the Vx overall.

I would rather wax my nether regions than drive a diesel.

I'm with you on that!

But, 200Nm V's 350Nm and an extra 20odd horses makes for a massive difference in *usable* power.

I stand by my argument..... 140BHP and 200Nm is very low for a petrol powered car of that weight.... and it shows.

I suspect you are looking at numbers. I am purely going with what I experienced. Plus no matter what the numbers, the way a diesel drives is truly awful. At least for me, even a BMW V6 335d, bloody awful. Hence the OP asking for issues with this engine rather than the drive.

Thought these where a straight 6 twin turbo diesel  :-\
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 02 June 2015, 00:57:11
Thought these where a straight 6 twin turbo diesel  :-\

Straight 6 indeed.  Quicker than the petrol variant and much cheaper to run (well, on fuel anyway).  But Diesles are shit.  ;D
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: mka306 on 02 June 2015, 07:29:49
Hi, I have the 1.4T in my Zaffy and both myself and the mrs love it, it's smooth and economical, also it's a very quiet engine and to date I have had 0 issues with it, in fact my wife wants to keep it instead of her adam and believe me that is saying something!!
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 June 2015, 08:26:34
Yes its a very good engine, of course diesels are of zero use to anyone who is doing short miles. :y

Also be aware three was a 120bhp version of the 1.4T some time ago which is considerably more lazy.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 02 June 2015, 21:32:06

Why not have a shot in the Diseasle?  Just to make a comparison..... if not, hairy-muff - Your money, your choice.... but don't say one half of an apple tastes beter than the other if you haven't had a bite.

Having owned the 335d and sold it due to getting fed up of the way it drove, I dont think even the bi-turbo Astra diesel would make any difference to my general dislike of diesel and the way it drives.

Initially the 335d was great fun. It has this steam roller effect where you just keep accelerating. Great on the test drive and on a motorway, but trying to have fun driving it on a twisty B road was pretty disappointing. Eventually sold it as I got fed up.

By the way, the diseasal is about 3k more for a similar spec. And with 8-10k pa, it does not make sense. Plus add in costs of blocked dpf's and other issues, no thank you.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 02 June 2015, 21:33:30

Thought these where a straight 6 twin turbo diesel  :-\

Sorry yes, still in Omega land when I typed that.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: D on 02 June 2015, 21:34:41
Yes its a very good engine, of course diesels are of zero use to anyone who is doing short miles. :y

Also be aware three was a 120bhp version of the 1.4T some time ago which is considerably more lazy.

Only currently available on the GTC coupe.
Title: Re: What are the engines in these like?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 03 June 2015, 00:57:03
The 120ps model of the 1.4T was never available in the UK market AFAIK.

As for owning a 335d and getting fed up on the twisties????  Have you ever driven (and I mean for a decent amount of time) a petrol Turbo car?  ;D

I'm guessing with the Derv you got bored of changing gears every two seconds.  I know what you mean.... and you'll get used to it again.... Petrol Blowers need more revs, Derv's take it on the chin.

Honestly, if you are buying a town car which will never see an angry right foot, then the 1.4T should be alright.  Your money, your choice.