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Title: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: The Sheriff on 04 June 2015, 15:23:21
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Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: The Sheriff on 04 June 2015, 15:24:06
Bit big....sorry.
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: zirk on 04 June 2015, 15:27:52
Still got 2connections just split into fuses.  ;)
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 04 June 2015, 15:31:22
Get some grease on them!  :y
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Nick W on 04 June 2015, 15:54:20
Still got 2connections just split into fuses.  ;)

Exactly.
Just that set up splits the power distribution where you can see it, rather than further inside the loom where you can't.
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 June 2015, 15:59:07
The start stop models also have a current measuring shunt in the main connector.
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 04 June 2015, 16:33:42
Is it right that you can destroy a start-stop car to jump start another, and indeed, destroy the start-stop-equipped car by trying to jump it?
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: zirk on 04 June 2015, 17:01:25
Is it right that you can destroy a start-stop car to jump start another, and indeed, destroy the start-stop-equipped car by trying to jump it?
Quite possible if you connect it in the wrong place, ie, wrong side of a shunt, or fusible link, I think there Fusible Shunts as well which may or may not help.
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Rods2 on 04 June 2015, 17:30:21
Oh aye, such much easier in your youth with hot tube ignition, a starting handle and oil lamps. ::) ::) :P :P
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 June 2015, 21:20:29
Is it right that you can destroy a start-stop car to jump start another, and indeed, destroy the start-stop-equipped car by trying to jump it?
Quite possible if you connect it in the wrong place, ie, wrong side of a shunt, or fusible link, I think there Fusible Shunts as well which may or may not help.
BMW X5s tend to react quite vehemently to attempts at jump starting a n other vehicle from the auxiliary battery :D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Nick W on 04 June 2015, 22:00:55
Mercedes don't like that either. And the original A-class puts the EML on when you jump start them.

Bloody Germans!
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: YZ250 on 04 June 2015, 22:06:45
Is it right that you can destroy a start-stop car to jump start another, and indeed, destroy the start-stop-equipped car by trying to jump it?
Quite possible if you connect it in the wrong place, ie, wrong side of a shunt, or fusible link, I think there Fusible Shunts as well which may or may not help.
BMW X5s tend to react quite vehemently to attempts at jump starting a n other vehicle from the auxiliary battery :D

As the battery on later beemers is hidden in the boot, they are fitted with a 'live post' under the bonnet for jump starting. I've started family members cars/trucks plenty of times with no ill effects to the stop/start thingy.  :y
If this would render the stop/start function inoperative I would happily connect jump leads directly to the battery as I always switch the function off anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Rods2 on 04 June 2015, 22:33:24
It does seem sensible to have the main fuses very close to the battery as it will help minimise the risk of electrical fires and damaged wiring. :y
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Andy B on 05 June 2015, 00:06:25
....

As the battery on later beemers is hidden in the boot, they are fitted with a 'live post' under the bonnet for jump starting. I've started family members cars/trucks plenty of times with no ill effects to the stop/start thingy.  :y ....

Likewise my Merc  :y
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Vamps on 05 June 2015, 01:19:19
I couldn't be doing with this new fangled stop/start thingy, defo not for me, it would be like driving a manual....... :( :(
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 June 2015, 11:29:33
I couldn't be doing with this new fangled stop/start thingy, defo not for me, it would be like driving a manual....... :( :(

It would be like driving a 1970's Ford, where it would stall at every junction.*


* - for the lucky drivers who managed to get it started in the morning in the first place  ::)
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: aaronjb on 05 June 2015, 12:14:00
Oh aye, such much easier in your youth with hot tube ignition, a starting handle and oil lamps. ::) ::) :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think you just summed half the membership up ;D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 June 2015, 13:01:15
Oh aye, such much easier in your youth with hot tube ignition, a starting handle and oil lamps. ::) ::) :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think you just summed half the membership up ;D

Careful! You'll get that DTM bloke over-excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEejYf6cfuE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEejYf6cfuE)

It would be a bit of a faff at every set of traffic lights, to be fair. I wonder how many shotgun cartridges you'd need to get across Milton Keynes? ;D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: aaronjb on 05 June 2015, 14:19:01
That .. is the best video I've watched all day ;D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Rods2 on 05 June 2015, 17:35:29
Oh aye, such much easier in your youth with hot tube ignition, a starting handle and oil lamps. ::) ::) :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think you just summed half the membership up ;D

So much easier for Lord Opti, he just got the butler to walk in front with a red flag. :P :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: Rods2 on 05 June 2015, 17:54:31
Oh aye, such much easier in your youth with hot tube ignition, a starting handle and oil lamps. ::) ::) :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think you just summed half the membership up ;D

Anybody else got a copy of my book on modern motor car construction? So we can discuss some of the finer points it is called "Motor Car Construction by R. W. A. Brewer", no ISBN I'm afraid but it was published by Crosby Lockwood and Son in 1912. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Chapter VII - Ignition Mechanism

The ignition of the explosive mixture in the motor car cylinders is now effected by the means of an electric spark. Not so many years ago, engines with tube ignition were still met on the road.....

Electricity may be provided by three different sources in a modern car:
1. Primary dry batteries....
2. Secondary batteries or accumulators....
3. Dynamos or magneto machines.....
The applications of sources (1) and (2) are somewhat identical, as the primary current at a pressure of about four or more volts is conducted round the primary winding of an induction coil.....

They don't make them like this anymore.
Title: Re: Remember when your car battery had just two connections?
Post by: aaronjb on 05 June 2015, 17:55:54
4V eh, steady on there!

Do you think R. W. A. Brewer is any relation of Mike Brewer of Wheeler Dealer fame? ;D