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Title: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Rods2 on 30 June 2015, 19:38:43
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a16149/the-2016-chevrolet-camaro-first-drive/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a16149/the-2016-chevrolet-camaro-first-drive/)

Looking forward to more details. :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Phil L on 30 June 2015, 19:43:57
A lot of these muscle cars are going back to their heyday roots- I think they generally look fantastic: Mustang, Challenger & Camaro especially.  Making them RHD with better handling is what they must strive for... the Mustang I note is coming this year - cant wait
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 July 2015, 16:32:08
A lot of these muscle cars are going back to their heyday roots- I think they generally look fantastic: Mustang, Challenger & Camaro especially.  Making them RHD with better handling is what they must strive for... the Mustang I note is coming this year - cant wait
Rubbish re handling... The Camaro uses the VXR8 chassis, which for a large saloon, is pretty damn good.
Perhaps not BMW agility, but then it's clearly not a BMW ::) Which is nice :D
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 01 July 2015, 16:48:45
Had a 2010 Mustang in California a few years back it was the V8 believe it is 4.6 litres great car , would have one tomorrow without any hesitation.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: chrisgixer on 01 July 2015, 17:38:19
Saw one yesterday as it happens, presume last years though :-\


No right hand drive I believe? As with the cts v as well. We can have the car, but not with the steering wheel on the correct side. :(
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Phil L on 01 July 2015, 17:41:09
Yep
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: chrisgixer on 01 July 2015, 17:45:45
I really like the cts v styling.

But in a way that I am certain would mean I would then be embarrassed to be seen in it if I bought one. If that makes any sense at all? It's too ott IMO.

Vxr8 however, no such problems there, and obviously is available in UK spec.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Phil L on 01 July 2015, 17:49:29
And I'm a general muscle car fan with a preference for Mustangs - always have been.  Given I don't want to hurl them around a race track, I'm generally Ok with 'adequate' handling of US cars, although I appreciate they are improving
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 July 2015, 01:59:02
And I'm a general muscle car fan with a preference for Mustangs - always have been.  Given I don't want to hurl them around a race track, I'm generally Ok with 'adequate' handling of US cars, although I appreciate they are improving
That's not what you said earlier... ::)

Still, only 76 posts to go :-X
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: minifreek on 02 July 2015, 07:28:57
I should imagine that most of the new Camaro's will be ordered with the V8 Hemi installed, instead of the 2.0 litre turbo....?


I do like the retro styling that most manufacturers have been going for since the Chrysler PT Cruiser was launched or even the Plymouth Prowler....
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 July 2015, 08:27:43
I should imagine that most of the new Camaro's will be ordered with the V8 Hemi installed, instead of the 2.0 litre turbo....?


I do like the retro styling that most manufacturers have been going for since the Chrysler PT Cruiser was launched or even the Plymouth Prowler....

4 pot "muscle car"?  (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/4199675334_66c3e3d61d_z.jpg)

I agree mostly, but the PissTake Cruiser was a shed of mamouth proportions. <shudder> ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Nick W on 02 July 2015, 08:52:13
I should imagine that most of the new Camaro's will be ordered with the V8 Hemi installed, instead of the 2.0 litre turbo....?


V8 Hemi? Chevrolet are going to fit Mopar engines? This seems unlikely ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: minifreek on 02 July 2015, 10:37:35
Where does it mention anywhere in the above article that they are fitting MOPAR engines....?

4th picture down clearly shows a HEMI engine...?

MOPAR was essentially Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth.... not Chevy (even though they all had the same parent company with GM)
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 July 2015, 11:27:38
The Hemi spherical combustion chamber being a Mopar trademark, it won't be fitted to a Gm chassis ;D

Camaro/Cadillac/Chevrolet SS/Corvette all continue to use the LS series engines... :y
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: aaronjb on 02 July 2015, 11:30:26
I should imagine that most of the new Camaro's will be ordered with the V8 Hemi installed, instead of the 2.0 litre turbo....?


V8 Hemi? Chevrolet are going to fit Mopar engines? This seems unlikely ;D

(http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/15/26/1600x900/gallery-1435010945-camaro-engine.jpg)

From the original link...

I note the rocker covers are hi-po orange, too.

[edit] Of course if you google there are lots of pictures all of different engines so I suspect there is some journalistic license going on there!
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 July 2015, 11:35:16
Useless journaliets using Google to write articles... ::)

That lump even has an SRT badge on the blower ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: aaronjb on 02 July 2015, 11:35:57
A bit of google images searching and that picture turns out to be of the new Hellcat V8 in a Dodge Challenger, the correct home for a Mopar engine in ho-po orange.

http://articles.sae.org/13227/

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Chrysler announced that its new "Hellcat" Hemi V8 will be SAE J1349-rated at 707 hp (527 kW) and 650 lb·ft (881 N·m) when it debuts

I'll take two!
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Nick W on 02 July 2015, 11:47:36
Where does it mention anywhere in the above article that they are fitting MOPAR engines....?

4th picture down clearly shows a HEMI engine...?

MOPAR was essentially Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth.... not Chevy (even though they all had the same parent company with GM)

Mopar is Chrysler Dodge etc, one of the big 3 manufacturers. GM and Ford are the other 2. Mopar have never been part of GM.

That 4th picture down clearly shows a supercharged Hemi, but it's in a Hellcat, which the text mentions.

The Camaro uses a continuation of GM's LS series engines.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 July 2015, 15:02:52
I always associated the word "hemi" with a cylinder head design that was rejected as a daft idea at about the same time as magnetos and starting handles. ::)

Still, wouldn't kick 707 BHP out of bed for f@rting. ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Phil L on 02 July 2015, 20:51:08
And I'm a general muscle car fan with a preference for Mustangs - always have been.  Given I don't want to hurl them around a race track, I'm generally Ok with 'adequate' handling of US cars, although I appreciate they are improving
That's not what you said earlier... ::)

Still, only 76 posts to go :-X
My earlier point was to sell more widely in Europe, US manufacturers need to improve their car's handling... From my personal perspective, it's not what motivates me given I drive to the rules of the road.  Also, I find that driving V8 american car make me drive slower.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: chrisgixer on 02 July 2015, 21:50:40
Passed a white Ford Mustang parked out side Ford dealers in Farnborough today.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 July 2015, 05:35:36
There's been a rather nice black left-hooker kicking around that area for a few years. Very nice. :-*
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2015, 07:43:17
There's a very smart white Camaro that lives in Horsham... Proportions are perfect for a bruising muscle car 8)

Having driven a 3.6 Cadillac STS,  with 286 brake, the V6 isn't the compromise that you might think.
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: Rods2 on 04 July 2015, 01:19:01
There's a very smart white Camaro that lives in Horsham... Proportions are perfect for a bruising muscle car 8)

Having driven a 3.6 Cadillac STS,  with 286 brake, the V6 isn't the compromise that you might think.

Personally, I think V or straight 6 engines are a good compromise on performance, smoothness, fuel consumption, front end weight and handling dynamics. I would love to build an Omega with the 3.6L 420bhp bi-turbo GM unit with 8 speed auto. :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: scimmy_man on 04 July 2015, 16:29:39
had a 2015 mustang convertible as a hire car last two weeks in california,
I had the V6 it was gutless, about as fast as my 2.0 audi A3.
the handling was ok but not anything to rave about.

and the bloody autobox never knew what gear it wanted, up and down the cogs for no real reason, 
2800 miles at an averave of 25mpg.

a few Yanks I spoke to raved about it,
Title: Re: 2016 Chevy Camaro: First Impressions Review
Post by: aaronjb on 05 July 2015, 23:14:44
30mpg to cruise about in a v6 mustang doesn't sound too bad (their gallon is quite a bit smaller than ours).. Still two cylinders short of the full set though  :y