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Title: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Rods2 on 31 July 2015, 19:00:54
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-33736685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-33736685)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 July 2015, 19:41:49
Just seen this... Very sad
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: BazaJT on 31 July 2015, 19:47:16
Indeed a very sad and regrettable incident,however I suppose it could have been far worse in casualty terms,so possibly quite a lucky escape for many.
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 July 2015, 20:40:55
Seems the aircraft was unable to stop  :'(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: tunnie on 31 July 2015, 21:14:46
Good conditions here. Odd it could not stop. Overshoot maybe?
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Gaffers on 31 July 2015, 21:15:00
Not very far from me at all. Swmbo says that the a30 is a nightmare in that area.  best to avoid.
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: tunnie on 31 July 2015, 21:15:45
Not very far from me at all. Swmbo says that the a30 is a nightmare in that area.  best to avoid.

Grid lock all around Camberley when I got home
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 July 2015, 22:32:48
Good conditions here. Odd it could not stop. Overshoot maybe?

Too early to speculate but possible brake failure :-\ Or reverse thruster failure :-\

Just such a shame
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 July 2015, 23:32:37
Must have missed this on my way out of Fleet. No problems at all. :(

Doesn't look from the aerial pictures that it overran the runway. More likely stalled executing a take-off / go-around. :'(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 July 2015, 23:43:56
Hmm. Eye witness accounts suggest it landed with a lot of energy, well down the runway, overshot into a grass bank and flipped over the hedge into the car park, hence very little evidence of a debris trail from the runway end.
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2015, 08:11:04
Passengers were members of the Bin laden family. mmmm.   ::)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 August 2015, 08:30:34
Passengers were members of the Bin laden family. mmmm.   ::)

But Osama was disowned and disgraced by his family before he became infamous ;)

Very sad events
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: biggriffin on 01 August 2015, 08:41:36
Passengers were members of the Bin laden family. mmmm.   ::)

Ooo a conspiracy theory, were's cem when we need him, suppose we have to,put up with rods blaming that Putin bloke :)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2015, 09:46:56
Passengers were members of the Bin laden family. mmmm.   ::)

But Osama was disowned and disgraced by his family before he became infamous ;)

Very sad events

Yep he certainly was. He came a very long way (in completely the worst possible direction) since he was a star struck fan wandering around the Williams pit garage in the early 80,s
His family business was one of the team sponsors at the time.
Alan Jones said after 9/11 "If I had known how the little bastard was going to turn out I would have run him over in the pit lane".
Its hard to work out how someone can transform from a typical rich kid F1 fan, to what he became.
Im not really seriously suggesting a conspiracy theory. Just mentioning the possibility as stranger things have happened.  ;)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: omega2018 on 01 August 2015, 12:26:50
Alan Jones said after 9/11 "If I had known how the little bastard was going to turn out I would have run him over in the pit lane".

bit like this superb spoof ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2DK4pEYS4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2DK4pEYS4)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2015, 14:35:45
Another plane has crashed at Oulton park this morning, where carfest is being held.
These things always seem to happen close together. :(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 August 2015, 14:41:33
Another plane has crashed at Oulton park this morning, where carfest is being held.
These things always seem to happen close together. :(

Just seen that... How sad :'(

Plane crashes at CarFest in Cheshire
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-33748256
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Rods2 on 01 August 2015, 18:45:58
Passengers were members of the Bin laden family. mmmm.   ::)

Ooo a conspiracy theory, were's cem when we need him, suppose we have to,put up with rods blaming that Putin bloke :)

Speculation is that it landed too far down the runway, realised he was not going to stop and may have tried to takeoff to do a go-around. No conspiracy as most pilots don't want to accidently kill themselves. Sadly he seems to have made a pigs ear of the landing and paid the price. :'( Small passenger aircraft and business jets have two to four times the accident rate of commercial airlines with most due to pilot error. :(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: omega2018 on 02 August 2015, 00:00:14
no thrust reversers on a Phenom 300 :(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 02 August 2015, 09:17:06
no thrust reversers on a Phenom 300 :(

Must admit, I didn't check the specs :-[
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 August 2015, 09:53:00
A flight path posted on PPRUNE suggests he made a very tight circuit considering the aircraft type and his height ballooned at one point. Could be that he just didn't give himself enough time and space to stabilise the approach and didn't realise he'd cocked it up until too late. :'(
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Lazydocker on 02 August 2015, 10:34:24
A flight path posted on PPRUNE suggests he made a very tight circuit considering the aircraft type and his height ballooned at one point. Could be that he just didn't give himself enough time and space to stabilise the approach and didn't realise he'd cocked it up until too late. :'(

Strange though... Blackbushe isn't really that complex an approach for light aircraft... Something odd with the situation... Unless there was a rookie pilot as well :-\
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: omega2018 on 02 August 2015, 21:01:57
possibly he was scared for his life job if he didn't land first time
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Rods2 on 06 August 2015, 17:22:58
More details from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33809095 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33809095)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: tigers_gonads on 06 August 2015, 17:49:34
Depending on the power settings, it sadly sounds like he oppsed up the flare at the end of the approach after dodging the microlight  :-\

Nothing to have stopped him opening up the throttles and going around though unless he was distracted by somebody on board  :-\

All hypothetical of course  ;)
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: jimbo125 on 07 August 2015, 08:38:10
Do you think British Car Auctions have third party fire and flight insurance... bit of a shit for the prospective sellers of the burnt out motors.
Title: Re: Plane Crash At Blackbushe Airport
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2015, 15:59:58
An aircraft of that weight should have enough 3rd party liability insurance to cover a few cars, I think.