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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: terry paget on 15 August 2015, 17:46:16

Title: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: terry paget on 15 August 2015, 17:46:16

Daughter Catherine has brought home her 2.6 manual saloon complaining of poor brakes in emergency stops. I have just given it a test drive. Brakes pull straight, no twitching, but poor on first emergency application from 30mph, improving on subsequent applications. Any suggestions?

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 15 August 2015, 18:00:20

Air in the system?

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: biggriffin on 15 August 2015, 18:11:29

Crap pads.
Bleed system, fit new gm tc pads  :y

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 August 2015, 19:40:35

Quote from: biggriffin on 15 August 2015, 18:11:29

Crap pads.
Bleed system, fit new gm tc pads  :y

Jeez! biggriff has gone all religious on us, advising peeps to fit genuine parts!!  :o  :P  ;D

Wot e said tho Terry!  :y

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 August 2015, 19:51:54

Some pads do need a hint of heat in them (TC included). Some need a lot of heat (eg, EBC, esp yellow and red). Some need no heat (such as OE)

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: hoody on 15 August 2015, 20:46:20

Worn wheel bearing can cause these symptoms too.

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: biggriffin on 15 August 2015, 21:42:15

Quote from: Sir Tigger on 15 August 2015, 19:40:35

Quote from: biggriffin on 15 August 2015, 18:11:29

Crap pads.
Bleed system, fit new gm tc pads  :y

Jeez! biggriff has gone all religious on us, advising peeps to fit genuine parts!!  :o  :P  ;D

Wot e said tho Terry!  :y

Ive filling in for the middle earth one,while he's away, looking for the special.  ;D.

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: terry paget on 16 August 2015, 17:12:59

Thanks to all for advice. This morning I bled the brakes and fitted new GM TC front pads. After a 6 mile bedding in run I took my daughter out for a demonstration run and she declared the brakes 'now excellent'. Job done.

I thought they were OK before, but at least she is happy now.

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: Shackeng on 16 August 2015, 19:05:28

Quote from: hoody on 15 August 2015, 20:46:20

Worn wheel bearing can cause these symptoms too.

 ???

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: tidla on 16 August 2015, 19:44:40

If the bearing has play in it then the disc can "widen" out the pads which on brake application need to travel a bit further.

Title: Re: Brakes not sharp on initial application, improving with use. Pads?
Post by: Shackeng on 16 August 2015, 22:25:52

Hmmm, had a bearing going for some time and had no effect on braking, I suspect it would need considerable wear for this to occur. :y