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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 20:47:18

Title: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 20:47:18
i have just replaced the screen on the mig for a heat reflective sensor screen. got the sensor and the mirror. behind the head cloth i have 3 plugs. but none of them fit the sensor or fit the auto mirror. am i missing something?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 21:03:48
Different plugs early to late...either obtain the mirror/sensor to match your car loom or the tails to match the mirror and sensor you have :y
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 21:25:26
the loom came from a 2000 facelift and the sensor came from a 2002 vectra if that help  :-[

would a pic of the plugs help?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 21:30:30
What model is your car?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 21:31:49
was a 2000 mv6. ex government car
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 21:42:20
was a 2000 mv6. ex government car
Pre or post facelift? That said, being ex job, all bets are off without seeing it... :-\
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 21:46:42
definitely a facelift. would the reg help?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 21:57:50
im a backside i have bought one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vectra-C-Signum-Astra-H-Windscreen-wiper-automatic-rain-sensor-GM-13107803-6616-/201146397380?hash=item2ed54272c4 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vectra-C-Signum-Astra-H-Windscreen-wiper-automatic-rain-sensor-GM-13107803-6616-/201146397380?hash=item2ed54272c4)

should i not have bought one of these instead?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Opel-Astra-H-Zafira-B-Regensensor-Sensor-Frontscheibe-13107803-EX-/151764845779?hash=item2355e3c4d3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Opel-Astra-H-Zafira-B-Regensensor-Sensor-Frontscheibe-13107803-EX-/151764845779?hash=item2355e3c4d3)

looks like one small plug i have behind the headcloth

probs is the mirror now, it has a long thin plug the only one left behind is a 3 pin by 2 pin square plug
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 22:00:09
Would need to physically see the plugs to identify them... But absolutely no guarantees of what wiring is left in the roof :-\
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 22:08:31
i shall go take a few pics mate
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 22:15:46
think this is the sensor wire

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/03925f3iqft6btp/AACebp4Thb0vR24JGOl15KCSa (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/03925f3iqft6btp/AACebp4Thb0vR24JGOl15KCSa)

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/93tc5bfm2kxfbku/AABV9GYa1Jsc3sf3kGVaJqTNa (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/93tc5bfm2kxfbku/AABV9GYa1Jsc3sf3kGVaJqTNa)

and this is the mirror plug

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vlv03w58idq7pnz/AADAWUOP-u__auqm9B2SJzmMa (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vlv03w58idq7pnz/AADAWUOP-u__auqm9B2SJzmMa)

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/aqy60o66jvzo1p7/AAC8GNcGsyfL3GcYPb0UXGTPa (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/aqy60o66jvzo1p7/AAC8GNcGsyfL3GcYPb0UXGTPa)
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 23:14:40
That's sunroof and microphone plugs...

Keep digging, you're missing at least 2 plugs if not 3...

Might be behind the big foam block...
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 23:18:00
thats every single plug that was there al. do i have a odd ball??
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 23:31:59
Plod could have used the wiring for all sorts, and simply chopped it out at the passenger kick panel ::)

All mime have still had all the plugs present, but the wiring wasn't always intact :-\

Follow my guide for dropping the headlining and see what's up there ;)
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 23:37:19
had the shell come back on monday from painter. refitted the loom today and ran up the passenger pillar to the head cloth. that was all the plugs there are. is it like the rear blind loom and might be a joining piece for the sensor? i hope

where is your guide?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 23:39:44
If the shell is stripped, and that is all you have, then that is all you have :-\

Guide is in the maintenance guide section :y
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 23:41:59
thats a bugger thought it was a standard loom was hoping anyway. thanks anyway al
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 August 2015, 23:48:26
No probs ;)

As an aside, where didyou get your screen from? Still having an argument with Autonoglass...
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 August 2015, 23:57:04
got a screen from work. i work for national windscreen. it cost me 150 quid + vat
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 August 2015, 00:00:46
got a screen from work. i work for national windscreen. it cost me 150 quid + vat
:y been waiting since May >:( :-X
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 28 August 2015, 00:02:33
When I did my autodim I found that the plug in this picture has the correct wires. +ve -ve and reverse switch. Easily double checked with a meter

think this is the sensor wire

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/03925f3iqft6btp/AACebp4Thb0vR24JGOl15KCSa (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/03925f3iqft6btp/AACebp4Thb0vR24JGOl15KCSa)

Using the picture at the bottom of the guide I located the wires in the mirror, removed both plugs and soldered the wires to each other. Works a treat dims and disables when in reverse.

Link to guide http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90639.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90639.0)

Sorry cant help with the rainsensor 
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 28 August 2015, 00:03:03
pity your never up this way i can get another
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 28 August 2015, 00:07:06
thats a better pic of what i got. thanks for getting the mirror sorted mate just need to fudge the sensor... somehow :y

would the wire up there be a ribbon cable for the sensor?
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 August 2015, 00:21:39
thats a better pic of what i got. thanks for getting the mirror sorted mate just need to fudge the sensor... somehow :y

would the wire up there be a ribbon cable for the sensor?
If the headlining is out and you haven't seen it, then no :'( All.runs up.The passenger a pillar...

The bigger plug could be the mirror one then, in which case you can swap the wires into your Later mirror :y
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 28 August 2015, 00:26:20
Oh well back to manual wipers  :'(
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 August 2015, 01:18:09
Vw99 relay could be the next best thing ;)

Besides, the car willstill look liie it has a sensor fitted, which is nice 8)
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: TheBoy on 31 August 2015, 12:35:19
As that option was not an option in 2000, there won't be any wiring in the loom for it. So that's why you can't find it.

TBH, its really, really, REALLY not worth the effort.
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: davieboy0312 on 31 August 2015, 12:38:01
Already got the adjustable wipers will stick with that  :y
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: Andy H on 31 August 2015, 13:30:23
As that option was not an option in 2000, there won't be any wiring in the loom for it. So that's why you can't find it.

TBH, its really, really, REALLY not worth the effort.
+1
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: biggriffin on 31 August 2015, 15:50:44
As that option was not an option in 2000, there won't be any wiring in the loom for it. So that's why you can't find it.

TBH, its really, really, REALLY not worth the effort.
Seconded, yet again.

I will say it Again, "o look its raining, I shall turn my wipers on, o look its stopped, I'll turn my wipers off"
 Simples
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: Andy H on 31 August 2015, 17:42:15
As that option was not an option in 2000, there won't be any wiring in the loom for it. So that's why you can't find it.

TBH, its really, really, REALLY not worth the effort.
Seconded, yet again.

I will say it Again, "o look its raining, I shall turn my wipers on, o look its stopped, I'll turn my wipers off"
 Simples
Or "oh look - it's that fine shitty drizzle that falls 50% of the time in Cornwall - a slow, intermittent wipe would be perfect right now. I think I will switch the auto wipers on. Oh they are on, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
repeat until you reach your destination or until it starts raining hard enough for the auto wipers to notice  ::)
Title: Re: another rainsensor auto dimming mirror question
Post by: EMD on 31 August 2015, 20:49:13
As that option was not an option in 2000, there won't be any wiring in the loom for it. So that's why you can't find it.

TBH, its really, really, REALLY not worth the effort.
Seconded, yet again.

I will say it Again, "o look its raining, I shall turn my wipers on, o look its stopped, I'll turn my wipers off"
 Simples
Or "oh look - it's that fine shitty drizzle that falls 50% of the time in Cornwall - a slow, intermittent wipe would be perfect right now. I think I will switch the auto wipers on. Oh they are on, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
bugger, I can't see, let's try speed 1. Scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape. Let's try auto again,
repeat until you reach your destination or until it starts raining hard enough for the auto wipers to notice  ::)

 ;D ;D