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Title: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 01 September 2015, 18:06:44
Been looking for an estate and these Mondeo look cheap as chips but what about any pitfalls with the engine or wear and tare stuff  :-\

This is just an example of what car i mean but you can get them a lot cheaper :

Mondeo (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mondeo-2-0-TDCi-SIII-Zetec-5dr-Estate-2005-/171897500992?hash=item2805e3b540)
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: TheBoy on 01 September 2015, 18:40:32
Whilst miles better than its predecessor, its unloved compared to the later ones, which are much better.

The 2.0TDCi is known for DMF failures and injector faults (which can lead to excessive engine wear, and even seizure).
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 01 September 2015, 18:50:01
Whilst miles better than its predecessor, its unloved compared to the later ones, which are much better.

The 2.0TDCi is known for DMF failures and injector faults (which can lead to excessive engine wear, and even seizure).

(http://www.animateit.net/data/media/smiley712/smiley-whacky025.gif)

Ill pass on that then  :( Going to get rid of the 2.5 manul first then look for mig estate .

Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: tidla on 01 September 2015, 18:50:26
Petrol model yes, diesel, noo.

to add, turbo actuators,water pump/power steering separation, chain tensioner wear,aux belt pulley disintegration.

Did somebody mention dmf which clogs up the starter with fine dust..
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 September 2015, 19:28:02
Wouldn't touch one of those with yours... and that one screams ex taxi :-X
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Nick W on 01 September 2015, 19:45:21
Petrol model yes, diesel, noo.

to add, turbo actuators,water pump/power steering separation, chain tensioner wear,aux belt pulley disintegration.

Did somebody mention dmf which clogs up the starter with fine dust..

I would second all of that. Injectors, turbo or DMF are all four figure jobs, and are a case of when not if. They're the reason why a tidy looking TDCI Mondeo can be bought for £500. It's a pity, as a working one is a good car.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: omegod on 01 September 2015, 20:01:25
I recently broke one for decent money, timing chain had been set wrong and damaged the top end ! There's a very strong demand for injectors, dmf , high pressure fuel pump's and turbo's so take that as you will !
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Varche on 01 September 2015, 21:38:50
I hate to say it but for that sort of money it is almost "disposable car" territory.

i.e. buy it, run it till something serious goes wrong. Hopefully get a year or so out of it. Any longer is a bonus. Then break and/or scrap . Years motoring for £600? (about three weeks hire car)

Then buy another.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 September 2015, 21:47:01
Yep I'm with Varche on that.  It's Bangernomics! :y 

I bet on the Mondeo forum if someone says 'Hey these Vauxhall Omegas are cheap!' there will be pages of reasons not to buy one. eg. They all leak oil, they all leak water, weak suspension, chew tyres for a pastime etc etc  ;D
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Nick W on 01 September 2015, 23:34:18
I hate to say it but for that sort of money it is almost "disposable car" territory.

i.e. buy it, run it till something serious goes wrong. Hopefully get a year or so out of it. Any longer is a bonus. Then break and/or scrap . Years motoring for £600? (about three weeks hire car)

Then buy another.

But a £600 Mondeo is likely to already be exhibiting some or all of these symptoms. That's why it's £600! I saw one last week that he had owned for 10 days with a knackered startermotor. We bumpstarted it, and it had a nasty vibration through the clutch pedal - classic DMF symptoms which mean a new flywheel, clutch and starter.

Bangernomics requires a cheap car that will last for sometime without any money spent on it. A cheap TDCI Mondeo is far too much of a gamble to qualify. Buying one from the top end of the market doesn't reduce the risk by much either.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 September 2015, 11:39:28
Wouldn't touch one of those with yours... and that one screams ex taxi :-X

Speaking of which, I wonder if the new owner of a gleaming white Mercedes estate is aware of it's history?..... ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 September 2015, 13:26:37
Wouldn't touch one of those with yours... and that one screams ex taxi :-X

Speaking of which, I wonder if the new owner of a gleaming white Mercedes estate is aware of it's history?..... ::) ::) :)

 ;D
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 02 September 2015, 15:48:19
I have emailed someone about a pf 2.5 v6 Ghia estate  ::) :-X
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 September 2015, 16:02:32
Wouldn't touch one of those with yours... and that one screams ex taxi :-X

Speaking of which, I wonder if the new owner of a gleaming white Mercedes estate is aware of it's history?..... ::) ::) :)

 ;D
I emailed the vendor this pic...
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/Mobile%20Uploads/1409672624107_zpsgijbj3gh.jpg)
...Just to be clear ::)
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: STEMO on 02 September 2015, 16:19:03
If a car is a high miler, even though it's fairly young, what difference does it make if it's been used as a taxi? If the service history checks out ok and the upholstery isn't full of puke, then it's the same as any other car that's had a hard life. The price you pay should reflect this. I would be more put off by a well-used shin breaker.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 September 2015, 17:24:24
If a car is a high miler, even though it's fairly young, what difference does it make if it's been used as a taxi? If the service history checks out ok and the upholstery isn't full of puke, then it's the same as any other car that's had a hard life. The price you pay should reflect this. I would be more put off by a well-used shin breaker.

I would think that a taxi does most of it's work around town which is more detrimental to the car than the same mileage on the motorway.

Also, Al was a taxi driver/owner so looked after the taxi/his car far better than some reprobate who doesn't give a shit because the car is not his property.

Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: STEMO on 02 September 2015, 17:46:34
If a car is a high miler, even though it's fairly young, what difference does it make if it's been used as a taxi? If the service history checks out ok and the upholstery isn't full of puke, then it's the same as any other car that's had a hard life. The price you pay should reflect this. I would be more put off by a well-used shin breaker.

I would think that a taxi does most of it's work around town which is more detrimental to the car than the same mileage on the motorway.

Also, Al was a taxi driver/owner so looked after the taxi/his car far better than some reprobate who doesn't give a shit because the car is not his property.
Any used car in London would never have been out of third.......
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 September 2015, 18:17:28
Wouldn't touch one of those with yours... and that one screams ex taxi :-X

Speaking of which, I wonder if the new owner of a gleaming white Mercedes estate is aware of it's history?..... ::) ::) :)

 ;D
I emailed the vendor this pic...
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/Mobile%20Uploads/1409672624107_zpsgijbj3gh.jpg)
...Just to be clear ::)

I'm sure that he shared that pic with all interested parties Al!  :D  ;D
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: alfie on 02 September 2015, 21:28:01
It,s not often that I reply to a question on here,BUT it was the the best thing that I had done when I decided to by my Mondeo.
It,s hates filling stations,50 mpg no problem,tows my caravan like it,s not there,drives like a sports car when you want to push along.
My next car will be ..........another Mondeo!     Love IT,

                                                         Alfie
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: STEMO on 02 September 2015, 21:30:27
It,s not often that I reply to a question on here,BUT it was the the best thing that I had done when I decided to by my Mondeo.
It,s hates filling stations,50 mpg no problem,tows my caravan like it,s not there,drives like a sports car when you want to push along.
My next car will be ..........another Mondeo!     Love IT,

                                                         Alfie
If ford sell 10,000 mondeos, Alfie, and 50 of them go wrong with the same fault, you'll certainly hear about it. Ask anyone who owns a French car.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: Viral_Jim on 03 September 2015, 08:36:24
Petrol model yes, diesel, noo.

to add, turbo actuators,water pump/power steering separation, chain tensioner wear,aux belt pulley disintegration.

Did somebody mention dmf which clogs up the starter with fine dust..

To caveat that, I wouldn't buy a TDCI, but if you can find the much lower tech TDDI then you'll have fewer issues. I bought mine (2001 GhiaX hatchback) knowing the DMF was knackered for chump change with 75k on it. I had it because I needed something cheap to get me between Loughborough and London each week and then be parked on an east London backstreet.

Beyond the DMF (£750 but known when I bought the car), it cost me a battery, plus routine maintenance in 65k. The car had full leather, heated and electric, sunroof, cruise, climate etc etc. It wasn't refined but returned between 45 (winter) and 48 (summer) the whole time I had it. I only got rid of it when I started doing up my current house and needed something even bigger to put DIY materials in.

As others have said, they have their problems but I think the tinternet overexaggerates these when you consider just how many mondeos have rolled off the production line over the years. If you find a good one, they make very cheap (if somewhat unexciting) transport options.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 03 September 2015, 13:43:47
Yeah there's a lot of diesel Mondeo's for sale and most pretty cheap for a reason that we now know on some  :( The petrol pf 2.5 ghia v6 estate looks ok that ive messaged about . I asked him about the cam belt change , and he said its cam chain in it , is that right  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: STEMO on 03 September 2015, 13:46:09
Yeah there's a lot of diesel Mondeo's for sale and most pretty cheap for a reason that we now know on some  :( The petrol pf 2.5 ghia v6 estate looks ok that ive messaged about . I asked him about the cam belt change , and he said its cam chain in it , is that right  :-\ :-\
You do own a google, don't you?  :-\
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 03 September 2015, 13:51:08
Yeah there's a lot of diesel Mondeo's for sale and most pretty cheap for a reason that we now know on some  :( The petrol pf 2.5 ghia v6 estate looks ok that ive messaged about . I asked him about the cam belt change , and he said its cam chain in it , is that right  :-\ :-\
You do own a google, don't you?  :-\

Nope  ;D Its a 1998 anyway  ::)
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: henryd on 03 September 2015, 14:10:18
Yeah there's a lot of diesel Mondeo's for sale and most pretty cheap for a reason that we now know on some  :( The petrol pf 2.5 ghia v6 estate looks ok that ive messaged about . I asked him about the cam belt change , and he said its cam chain in it , is that right  :-\ :-\

 :y :y
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 03 September 2015, 19:18:24
Yeah there's a lot of diesel Mondeo's for sale and most pretty cheap for a reason that we now know on some  :( The petrol pf 2.5 ghia v6 estate looks ok that ive messaged about . I asked him about the cam belt change , and he said its cam chain in it , is that right  :-\ :-\

 :y :y

 :)   :y

I read the fuel consumption was poor , between 25-30mpg . Thats not poor thats good  :D After taking a few trips back in my mates 98 mondeo estate i was impressed how nice the ride was and pretty spacious  :) Not the square shape model , the one with the fl rounded bumpers .
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: henryd on 03 September 2015, 19:22:40
25-30 mpg for 2.5 v6 is alright,my old 2.5 omega wouldn't do any better
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: EMD on 03 September 2015, 19:25:54
25-30 mpg for 2.5 v6 is alright,my old 2.5 omega wouldn't do any better

I got a suspect 41mpg on my old 3.0 mv saloon but that was on a long run back from Bristol .
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: serek on 03 September 2015, 19:45:19
I have emailed someone about a pf 2.5 v6 Ghia estate  ::) :-X
what is you budget ?
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: BazaJT on 03 September 2015, 19:54:34
Bottom arms/bushes used to be a favourite failure point on mondeos.
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 September 2015, 20:02:58
I have emailed someone about a pf 2.5 v6 Ghia estate  ::) :-X
what is you budget ?
99p...  ::)
Title: Re: About this Ford
Post by: henryd on 03 September 2015, 20:51:57
25-30 mpg for 2.5 v6 is alright,my old 2.5 omega wouldn't do any better

I got a suspect 41mpg on my old 3.0 mv saloon but that was on a long run back from Bristol .

Mine would have needed to be on a trailer to get close to that.