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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Danny on 12 July 2008, 20:32:38
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my memory doesnt serve me well but Jamesv6cdx will update any missed points. he came to see my car today, arriving about half 1 and leaving about 20 minutes ago (yes, THAT long!)
my mother and father made 2 new friends by the names of maria and hannah ;D
the discoveries we made on my car that the untrained eye wouldnt know about, the coolant feed to the evaporator was going all the way round the world before reaching the evaporator so james re-plumbed it all and refitted the original feed to the throttle bodies, thankfully we had plenty of piping, had to get fresh joins, james will also tell you what 2 of the pipes were joined with!!
the wiring to the RPM wire was pretty much just taped to it and not properly connected, which has now generated a fault so now the LPG ECU thinks the car is at 2000 revs when its actually at idle around 450!!
the LPG ecu unit is in the scuttle drain, but the original fitter decided to THROW AWAY my pollen filter, so i have no pollen filter >:(
some wires were bare and VERY shoddy, the one to the lambdas was completely cut!
[size=12]THIS is the biggy though[/size]
the probable main cause of the lumpy running, spluttering, apparent misfiring, my several thousand visits back to the garage, and stalling when changing to gas AND when changing back to petrol was something SOOOOOOOOOO so simple!!!!! (and we nearly didnt spot it!)
the filter was on the wrong way round
the bloody filter.....
the WRONG WAY ROUND!!!!
had to break the clips to turn it round, runs PERFECT on gas, but i need to fit jubilee clips on or it'll pop off, so on petrol tomorrow while i go get some! it even changes over from petrol to gas seemlessly, and back to petrol
been in talks with people since james left and unfortunately since i involved james (best move i ever made) i dont have a legal leg to stand on
thought about going to the papers or even TV but i'm not sure if they'd be interested, though i will speak to someone to find out if they can be prevented from ever converting cars again as a business!
James, a few words of thanks, a handshake and of course the fuel money for your journey will still never come close to how much i really appreciate you coming offering your knowledge and help, really does mean alot especially given the agony this car (really the garage) has given me!! you're an absolute star and a proper gent!!
if i need to hang on to the car for a while to sort out the LPG's RPM signal fault then thats fine :y
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Yeah, I knew that, umm-hmm. :-/ >:(
Glad you got it sorted! :y I'm sure that you can complain about the garage somewhere, but not worth the effort to go legal even if you could so be happy no longer an option. 8-)
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Danny glad you have got it sorted out, these cowboys need sorting out!
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Glad it's almost sorted Danny :) :) :) :)
Well done James :y :y
SWMBO says Trading Standards, Pics would have Helped. (They may already have been complained about)
BBC Watchdog
AA / RAC/ AUTOGAS Certificate inspectors
local and national press
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I am appalled at the workmanship of so called professional fitters >:( But ..... on the flip side, I am really pleased that James has managed to sort things out for you :)
To date I have not had the priviledge of meeting James, but already regard him as a true gent and a real asset to the forum and to all who know him.
I have followed this saga with interest and really feel chuffed to bits that it has been resolved as far as the system operating goes.
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Hear hear.., thanks James and sorry u've had such a bad experience Danny.
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Sounds like a good job, was the ECU set to coil feed?
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Sounds like a good job, was the ECU set to coil feed?
i cant remember, james played about with several settings!!
trading standards say i'd need to contact the garage and get them to rectify the problem... like 15+ visits isnt enough! they dont seem to sympathise that there's no way i'd let them touch my car again!
will make enquiries to the likes of watchdog/rogue traders to see if they can stop [size=72]Douglas Motors of Wigan[/size] from doing conversions
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Glad he has sorted it for you.
Great bloke, and lovely family :y
The errors sound like schoolboy pranks, not professionals!
So tempted for LPG but the horror stories put me off
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I am appalled at the workmanship of so called professional fitters >:( But ..... on the flip side, I am really pleased that James has managed to sort things out for you :)
To date I have not had the priviledge of meeting James, but already regard him as a true gent and a real asset to the forum and to all who know him.
I have followed this saga with interest and really feel chuffed to bits that it has been resolved as far as the system operating goes.
He knows his onions :y as regards comebacks for the garage like you say as you have got a 3rd party involved (james) it make things a bit awkward however if you state that you were not prepared to let them lay another spanner on your car that may help to explain and give credence to your complaint should you take it to trading standards good luck :y
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nice one Danny, its had the James treatment should be fine now! :)
Have to ask is it really worth changing to a Corsa?? I am finding my 2.2 quite cheap to run!
You going to get easily 40mpg on gas.. prob 50/55 on a run easy...
Same as the Corsa.
only big saves will be road tax and insurance.
BUT... is that really worth it?? prob talking few hundred quid here :-/
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Good job James. You are one of the good guys :y
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Well done James, proving that the people who know most about Omega's are Omega Owners :y :y :y
Are Douglas Motors members of the LPGA ?. If so, this shows that LPGA membership says nothing for the quality of the work, and also that this squad appear not to know their arse from their elbow. As re trading standards saying that Douglas Motors should have sorted this out, I think they are not giving appropriate weight to the 15 visits. And also if you tell them about the errors they made, it is clear that they are not sufficiently well trained (eg crap) and should not be allowed to touch vehicles.
Enjoy cheap motoring !
Ken
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Am working on finding more ratings sites mentioning [size=18]Douglas Motors, Wigan [/size]
Seems to be in a quaint street where raw clay doesn't last long.
http://www.sheriffratings.com/profile.html?id=82019418&subSiteTypeId=1
x x x x
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Sounds like a good job, was the ECU set to coil feed?
i cant remember, james played about with several settings!!
trading standards say i'd need to contact the garage and get them to rectify the problem... like 15+ visits isnt enough! they dont seem to sympathise that there's no way i'd let them touch my car again!
will make enquiries to the likes of watchdog/rogue traders to see if they can stop [size=72]
Douglas Motors of Wigan
[/size] from doing conversions
Dob them in matey, they deserve it after what they put you through.
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Try this one Danny,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/contact_transport.shtml
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Glad its sorted at long last :y
Did you take any pics of the faults before and after by chance???
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there,s more than one way to kill a cat .personally i would have to have satisfaction one way or another. ;)
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Just got in, knackered. Beer and bath time! I'll post up the comprehensive list of what we found asap!
Still needs a few very minor tweaks, and some electricals sorting out, but ultimately today, it's gone from a stuttering mis-firing mess, into something that runs nicely on LPG, so definately good progress :y
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Well done James! :y :y :y This is why I've gone down the diy route and ou let a "professional" near it!
Glad you're nearly there Danny! Take the complaint all the way!
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OMG, that is really appalling, the state they left your motor in. If they didn't have the confidence and knowledge to tackle the job then they should have laid their cards on the table. For them to take your money and screw you over is just the work of cowboys.....and we think it will never happen to us. tut.
Though James, whatta guy, so pleased you've managed to trace the problems, shame you had to take it into your own hands and spend your own time fixing someone else's mess, which you could have done better in the first place!
....and Danny, what was the pipe joined with???....chewing gum? ::)
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nice one Danny, its had the James treatment should be fine now! :)
Have to ask is it really worth changing to a Corsa?? I am finding my 2.2 quite cheap to run!
You going to get easily 40mpg on gas.. prob 50/55 on a run easy...
Same as the Corsa.
only big saves will be road tax and insurance.
BUT... is that really worth it?? prob talking few hundred quid here :-/
its because i'm saving for my own place, so every little helps, i thought about the idea of keeping the omega and using the corsa for work but its money sat on the drive, being a postman, the short journeys arent doing my engine any favours, the corsa is absolutely perfect for everything i'd need in a car....... until i have a child! ;D
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nice one Danny, its had the James treatment should be fine now! :)
Have to ask is it really worth changing to a Corsa?? I am finding my 2.2 quite cheap to run!
You going to get easily 40mpg on gas.. prob 50/55 on a run easy...
Same as the Corsa.
only big saves will be road tax and insurance.
BUT... is that really worth it?? prob talking few hundred quid here :-/
its because i'm saving for my own place, so every little helps, i thought about the idea of keeping the omega and using the corsa for work but its money sat on the drive, being a postman, the short journeys arent doing my engine any favours, the corsa is absolutely perfect for everything i'd need in a car....... until i have a child! ;D
Perfect for children - best to just keep it now