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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: vauxsull on 11 September 2015, 17:49:20
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What is the recommended lead set to use for the V6 without buying dealer leads? And what price and where would I need to go for them please guys?
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I fitted these bad boys mate :y
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Omega_2.5_2000/p/car-parts/engine-parts/ignition1/ignition-lead/?409725370&1&9326d10a3a47c52208cc47032b1cbbf40b6fafbe&000198
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Cheer's for that... Cheaper than I expected so I shall order them tomorrow. :y
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Reading the " how to" on changing the leads is worrying to say the least.. Maybe a garage job me thinks
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Remove 1 lead at time and replace,
also remove scuttle as it makes it a bit easier
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Be methodical, write down or draw the dis pack and the leads that go to each pot. Cross them off one by one, as you remove/replace them. :y
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I fitted these bad boys mate :y
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Omega_2.5_2000/p/car-parts/engine-parts/ignition1/ignition-lead/?409725370&1&9326d10a3a47c52208cc47032b1cbbf40b6fafbe&000198
Those are the ones I bought too :y
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Too many pipes n stuff to take off .. I can just see my fat sausage fingers busting something... I can do many jobs on these ole buses nut when I comes to fiddley things with pipes and electrical connections etc it worries me.. 😁
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Not difficult DIS pack well labelled and as Tmf states one lead at atime :y
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I use tipped to mark stuff. Mark your lead ends through 1-6 and you shouldn't get lost
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*tippex
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Unless you've already ordered, I spent ages researching leads, not quite being able to run to £100-ish BERU (which are the same as GM ones), and found Bosch Vectra V6 ones fit. They're not the identical lengths, some longer, some shorter, but they all will fit. And Vectra V6 ones tend to be cheaper, too :y
I paid £40 for Bosch ones, and done 6k so far with the reliability you'd expect :)
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Already got the leads now.. Just waiting for the right moment to pop them in.
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" cambiare" is the manufacturer of them too... Parts desk bloke says they're good... But I suppose he would wouldn't he?
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Two schools of thought on HTs...
1. Get BERU (or a similarly good make, be that Bosch, or the excellent quality ones Keith ABS sells, etc) - they're a fair old pain to fit, pay a bit more and they'll last 10+ years
2. Get whatever you can find, at whatever cost, cheap as you like, and treat them as a service item, so once every year or two. They may last as long as the quality leads your mate fitted, or they may start causing misfiring issues in 6 months. In the lap of the Gods.
Neither's right or wrong, whatever you want on your car. If you're keeping the car 6 months, seems mad to fit expensive leads. That said, you can do both - I paid ECP prices but for Bosch. Depends what you can find at the time :)
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Never thought to as Keith B for a price... Sod it
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Ahh, worry not. You've not paid excessive. Worst, worst case scenario you say 'ahh, bugger it, I'll just get me some of Keith's leads' as said, the leads you've got are effectively to be treat as a service item, so in 12 months you may feel it worth upgrading to some of the thicker, Keith ABS jobbies. :)
Don't lose sleep over it, there'll be plenty more opportunities for you to spend money on your Omega elsewhere!
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Which wouldn't suprise me in the slightest.... The reason I got the leads and plugs to follow and possible coil pack was due to misfire and uneven idle... Then discovering I have the leaky scuttle issue dripping water down the back onto coil ( possibly spark plug well too?).. Ive lathered the back of engine with wd40 and put a temp seal over scuttle join till I get time to remove and bung silicon on the lip... Hoping no permanent damage to coil already..
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Hasn't missed a beat since doing that..
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Ahh, good :)
Have you followed the tip/trick/howto re: using black sealant on the scuttle? Mine had been left without a scuttle in the wind and rain for a number of years (yes, years) and so a new coilpack and sealed scuttle were definitely on the cards, and as with yourself, not missed a beat since.
Well worth getting some sealant down there if you haven't already, got mind for £1 a tube at a bargain bin basement clearance cheap n cheerful trade place up the road. :)
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I have clear sealant only but as you wont see it ill use that... The coil pack and leads I believe are original so they're in the winter of there years now so life expectancy is numbered.
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I have clear sealant only but as you wont see it ill use that... The coil pack and leads I believe are original so they're in the winter of there years now so life expectancy is numbered.
I use clear silicone and it's fine. :y I believe that some use black cam cover goo. ::) The wealthy gits! :P :D ;D
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Well my car's black, so obviously I have to use black silicone :D It's not that I want to, I've got to, it's in the handbook. ;)
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Have I started a " silicon thread" now? 😁
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I used frame sealant once :D ;D
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Can anyone tell me what's the best silicone to use for a 0-60 time??? :D
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black. obviously ::) ;D
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Oh, that's all right, then, that's what I've got. :y :y
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Out of interest is it advised to only use " Bosch" coils when replacing?
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Apparently 3 types of fitment for the electrical connector on the coil.. Is there a way of knowing what I have without taking old one off first? Chassis number for eg?
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Unplug the MAF (plug that goes into the airducting after the airbox, bottom left of engine bay) isnt that meant to be a good way of determining which version of coil pack you require?
Seem to think as of MFL onwards, they're all the same plug, yes, so only the 'oval' plug, the square type was the earlier.
Bosch or GM are the recommended ones, and its a part that many are happy to pay up for a decent second hand over a brand new cheapy (so like catalytic converters, in that sense). Not sure how the cheap n cheerfuls fare, however I suspect the one I'm running on, though I bought as probable GM, is in fact a cheapy - with no ill effects so far after 6k miles :)
EDIT: of course the 2.6/3.2s use a different ignition setup, entirely without HTs, but I'm assuming this is already known by the OP/irrelevant as he's already got some HT leads :y
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Picking up a new Bosch one today.. £91 plus vat..
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And its an oval shape connecter according to jimbob
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Bosch is the one to get although i never had any trouble with pattern ones . Got these pesky 3 pack coils on the cdx :(
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Picking up a new Bosch one today.. £91 plus vat..
Good stuff :y I was about to say 'gulp' that's a lot of money, however today's the day my Omega is in the bodyshop to have rust done and resprayed roof, for £350 notes :o. And do you know the worst part? They're respraying it the same colour!!! Bah! you won't even be able to tell it's been resprayed! :D :D
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I have a trip to sunny stoke to have the coil fitted by Mr Loo knee :y
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Do you not like Darth, or something?!? :D
Pain of a job, but, I suppose when you've done a few thousand, as I'm sure the good Mr Looknee will have, you probably pick up a lot less scraped knuckles and aching knees than when I did mine :y
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Rather have it done properly first time than my feeble attempt...
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haha, fair enough. :) There's not much to go wrong, however, I appreciate fully, you assemble everything, try and start her up and nothing. There's about twenty things you could have done wrong, and advice can only go so far, before just having a bloke there as another pair of eyes just helps. You know it's done and done right having Darth there :)
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As I posted in previous thread... I can do many things to these ole buses but have mental block attempting certain things.... This being one.
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Yup, no worries. I'll wlays advise anyone to 'have a go', but there's a squillion things I can't, and wouldnt dream of doing, for fear of breaking something permanently. And knowing you're in safe hands is worth it's weight in gold. Hope you're sorted soon :)
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Hopefully this Saturday