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Title: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 20 September 2015, 16:37:51
I have got a replacement boot lip spoiler to replace a damaged one on an Elite saloon. Getting it off the donor boot lid (which was corroded) wasn't easy, but managed it successfully without damage. Had the new boot lid and replacement spoiler sprayed and are ready to fit, but anyone any experience of which is the best adhesive to use? Are any better than others for easy excess adhesive removal, minor adjustment before going off etc etc?
Any other tips welcomed.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Elite boot spolier - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: RobG on 20 September 2015, 16:38:42
Sikaflex
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 20 September 2015, 16:46:10
Ta. Just had a Google - would that be Sikaflex 265 Black which is stated to be for automotive use?
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 September 2015, 17:17:37
Sikaflex black ebt... About £7 from Screwfix :y

Guaranteed to 155 ish.
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 20 September 2015, 17:36:59
Weetabix, mixed with milk, then allowed to dry. Toughest substance known to man. Rumour has it they used it to coat the nose of the space shuttle.
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: plym ian on 20 September 2015, 17:59:04
Weetabix, mixed with milk, then allowed to dry. Toughest substance known to man. Rumour has it they used it to coat the nose of the space shuttle.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: PhilRich on 20 September 2015, 22:01:46
Weetabix, mixed with milk, then allowed to dry. Toughest substance known to man. Rumour has it they used it to coat the nose of the space shuttle.
;D ;D ;D







If I remember rightly NASA used 'Pattern' Weetabix once  on a shuttle & more than a few heat reflective tiles fell off on re-entry! :D ;D
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 September 2015, 23:03:10
Pattern weetabix is fine, just don't use soya milk :y
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 20 September 2015, 23:07:49
Sikaflex black ebt... About £7 from Screwfix :y

Guaranteed to 155 ish.


Screw fix site states this is a construction adhesive for building work....
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 September 2015, 23:42:06
And...???
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 21 September 2015, 09:30:25


And...???

I simply asked re EBT because it primarily lists it for the construction / building industry, whereas for example Sikaflex 221 Black is listed through Euro Car Parts as suitable for spoilers and wings /panels in the Automotive industry.
Incidentally, people who are passionate about their Omegas come on this site looking for helpful and cheerful advise, not rude or abrupt replies, which do nothing to encourage people to come back. A little explanation wouldn't go amiss - after all people wouldn't ask the questions if they knew the answers, yet those giving the responses may know the answers, but shouldn't expect people to grasp their understanding of the matter from short /abrupt replies.
Apologies - rant/gripe over.......
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 September 2015, 10:11:14
I mentioned EBT simply because it is readily available and is what my spoiler is held on with, so I know it works... if it didn't I wouldn't have suggested it... not everybody has the misfortune of having a Eurocarparts locally...

Besides, your comment about it being listed as a building material was hardly overflowing with detail ::) and if I wasn't passionate about my Omega it would have been crushed six years ago, and I wouldn't be here.
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 21 September 2015, 10:31:20
I appreciated the info on the EBT, although when I looked at it on the Screw Fix site ,it's use was described as a construction adhesive rather than an automotive adhesive, which was why I stated as such. I didn't follow the helpfulness of the response 'And'. I don't have a local Euro Car Parts either, but the info is on line about Sikaflex products.
I am on two other car forums as well as this, and if I know the answer, I always try to give helpful  informative responses as sometimes it helps to know 'why', not just 'what'.
I could have asked my local body shop, but I initially thought I'd ask fellow OOFers who may have experienced it first hand.
Anyway, I've two choices now, but thanks anyway......
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 24 September 2015, 00:49:50
Whilst shopping around at local motor factors for Sikaflex, Tiger Seal PU was recommended as an alternative.
Any thoughts or experiences? I know Tiger Seal has been going for many many years.
One advantage quoted is that you have a longer adjustment time and any excess is easier to remove due to the 30 - 60 min skinning time.
Need to tape it down overnight though whilst it fully cures, apparantly.
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: Broomies Mate on 24 September 2015, 01:01:14
Tiger Seal will do the same job, just takes bloody ages to cure properly.  :y
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 24 September 2015, 06:44:01
Having a longer working time, for me, is possibly a good thing as it's the first time I used it!
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: minifreek on 24 September 2015, 08:13:12
TigerSeal is the better stuff to use, just depends on the ambient air temp and humidity at time of use...

Sikaflex is good stuff, but most if not all good bodyshops use TigerSeal, so if the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari and Aston Martin use it - thats good enough for me to recommend, plus it's what held the sideskirts on my old Astra F to the point where they couldn't be removed and it also held a rear Irmscher lip spoiler onto my Vectra at 135ish :)
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: Nick W on 24 September 2015, 09:31:59
The practical difference between Sikaflex and Tiger Seal is cost. Other brands are available. They're all polyurethane adhesives, and do the same job. Sticking bits of trim onto cars isn't a critical application, so cost can be the main consideration.
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: johnnydog on 24 September 2015, 17:55:39
On the back of this advice, I have ordered some black Tiger Seal PU for £8.60 delivered (which I think is a good price!). Thanks for the input and I will post how it goes!
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 September 2015, 18:54:33
That's about twice the price of the EBT ::)
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: Andy B on 24 September 2015, 18:57:06
Tiger Seal will do the same job, just takes bloody ages to cure properly.  :y

It seems to cure pretty well in the tube though  :(
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: Merlindriver on 05 October 2015, 22:16:47
Aren't the originals stuck on with double-sided foam body tape?
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 October 2015, 22:30:06
Aren't the originals stuck on with double-sided foam body tape?
Nope...
Title: Re: Elite boot spoiler - recommended adhesives to use
Post by: Merlindriver on 05 October 2015, 22:38:03
Well that scuppers my plan of an easy separation using a bit of string so I can sell it then!