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Title: 1st October new law....
Post by: minifreek on 21 September 2015, 08:36:16
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...

For once, something the government has done and I actually fully agree with....

The only others Iv agreed with is the non smoking policy in works and pubs/clubs...

I am a non smoker - I used to smoke - I gave up nearly 11 years ago when my lad was born, ever since I have become very antismoking.... It stinks, the people who smoke stink, they pollute my air etc...

Its easy to say 'just stop'.... it isn't that easy to just stop... I used the patches to stop and hell of a lot of willpower, you also need to be in the correct state of mind to stop smoking....
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: tunnie on 21 September 2015, 08:38:03
Great idea, but how can they to enforce it?  :-\

Bit like mobile phones and driving, it's against the law but see countless drivers doing it.  :(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Andy B on 21 September 2015, 09:12:17
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I am a non smoker - I used to smoke - I gave up nearly 11 years ago when my lad was born, ever since I have become very antismoking.... It stinks, the people who smoke stink, they pollute my air etc.....

If you know how difficult it is to stop, why be so anti-smoking? :-?
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 21 September 2015, 09:26:13
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I am a non smoker - I used to smoke - I gave up nearly 11 years ago when my lad was born, ever since I have become very antismoking.... It stinks, the people who smoke stink, they pollute my air etc.....

If you know how difficult it is to stop, why be so anti-smoking? :-?

Ex smokers are always the biggest anti-smokers,that being said I gave up but don't mind others around me smoking ;)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 21 September 2015, 09:30:55
In other news, there will be 100 new traffic policeman appearing from a magic box under the desk in every RPU office ..

Good idea in theory, but with no one to enforce it, you may as well make it illegal to think about cheese while driving. Or scratch your nose while walking.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 September 2015, 09:53:28
Yes, it's just a shame that the only motoring laws that seem to be enforced these days relate to speeding (past a camera). >:(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: aaronjb on 21 September 2015, 09:55:40
Yes, it's just a shame that the only motoring laws that seem to be enforced these days relate to speeding (past a camera). >:(

Speed kills, remember (everything else is clearly just a nuisance).. Which reminds me that I saw a car with reg. "G4TSO" the other day; presume he's been caught one too many times!
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 September 2015, 10:21:48
Yes, it's just a shame that the only motoring laws that seem to be enforced these days relate to speeding (past a camera). >:(

Speed kills, remember (everything else is clearly just a nuisance).. Which reminds me that I saw a car with reg. "G4TSO" the other day; presume he's been caught one too many times!


.. Or he's one of those radio amateur geeks. ::)   :-X
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 10:32:51
It's a good thing in my opinion.  :y

It might not be particularly enforceable, but it will raise awareness and hopefully help educate those who insist on inflicting the results of their nasty habit on others! Especially young children.  :y

Incidentally, in a sign of changing times, I was at a party on Saturday night where they had a marquee in the garden, but as it was a dry fine night most were outside on the patio and almost no one was smoking.  :y  There were one or two having a sneaky fag down the side alley like naughty kids, but as there were probably over 100 people there, they were a small minority!  :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: aaronjb on 21 September 2015, 11:02:36
Yes, it's just a shame that the only motoring laws that seem to be enforced these days relate to speeding (past a camera). >:(

Speed kills, remember (everything else is clearly just a nuisance).. Which reminds me that I saw a car with reg. "G4TSO" the other day; presume he's been caught one too many times!


.. Or he's one of those radio amateur geeks. ::)   :-X

He, erm (no offence here, Kevin) didn't look nearly nerdy enough for that .. and his other half looked like a model..  :P ;D
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2015, 11:39:59
Great idea, but how can they to enforce it?  :-\

Bit like mobile phones and driving, it's against the law but see countless drivers doing it.  :(

I agree. It is a law that is virtually unenforceable. The rozzers will probably catch one person in a hundred. :-\

For the record I gave up smoking in 1980. Last packet of fags being 20 Gold Leaf priced at 51p.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 September 2015, 13:16:55
Yes, it's just a shame that the only motoring laws that seem to be enforced these days relate to speeding (past a camera). >:(

Speed kills, remember (everything else is clearly just a nuisance).. Which reminds me that I saw a car with reg. "G4TSO" the other day; presume he's been caught one too many times!


.. Or he's one of those radio amateur geeks. ::)   :-X

He, erm (no offence here, Kevin) didn't look nearly nerdy enough for that .. and his other half looked like a model..  :P ;D

Hang on... Looked like a model, or was a model, inflatable, fully working and with internet connectivity? ::)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: aaronjb on 21 September 2015, 13:32:12
Hang on... Looked like a model, or was a model, inflatable, fully working and with internet connectivity? ::)

Whatever you HAM radio types like to get up to!  ;)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 21 September 2015, 14:26:39
In other news, there will be 100 new traffic policeman appearing from a magic box under the desk in every RPU office ..

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quite the opposite in reality, I might not have a traffic post come October!!!!

So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal..


I'm saying nothin!!!!!! 
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: RobG on 21 September 2015, 16:15:22
Quote
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...
Illegal for whom, the driver? So one can assume that if the "under 18" is smoking it`s legal?
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 September 2015, 16:18:43
Quote
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...
Illegal for whom, the driver? So one can assume that if the "under 18" is smoking it`s legal?

You have to be 18 to smoke tobacco products in the UK nowadays Rob.  :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: RobG on 21 September 2015, 16:26:43
Quote
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...
Illegal for whom, the driver? So one can assume that if the "under 18" is smoking it`s legal?

You have to be 18 to smoke tobacco products in the UK nowadays Rob.  :y
18 to buy. No minimum age to smoke, but the police can confiscate tobacco products from under 16`s in a public place with no recompense for the owner
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 September 2015, 16:28:04
Quote
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...
Illegal for whom, the driver? So one can assume that if the "under 18" is smoking it`s legal?

You have to be 18 to smoke tobacco products in the UK nowadays Rob.  :y
18 to buy. No minimum age to smoke, but the police can confiscate tobacco products from under 16`s in a public place with no recompense for the owner

I thought that all changed in ~2007?  :-\
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: RobG on 21 September 2015, 16:28:48
Quote
So from 1st October, if there is an under 18 present in the vehicle you are not allowed to smoke - its actually illegal...
Illegal for whom, the driver? So one can assume that if the "under 18" is smoking it`s legal?

You have to be 18 to smoke tobacco products in the UK nowadays Rob.  :y
18 to buy. No minimum age to smoke, but the police can confiscate tobacco products from under 16`s in a public place with no recompense for the owner

I thought that all changed in ~2007?  :-\
The age to buy was raised in 2007
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 September 2015, 16:30:32

The age to buy was raised in 2007

Ah, I must be thinking of Scotlandshire.  :-X
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2015, 16:33:43
Aged ten or eleven we used to buy cigarettes in  school uniform.

The man behind the counter was quite happy to break open a pack and sell us individual fags.......for a price. :y

Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 17:51:20
Aged ten or eleven we used to buy cigarettes in  school uniform.

The man behind the counter was quite happy to break open a pack and sell us individual fags.......for a price. :y

Ah the good old days of the 1930's!  :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Terbs on 21 September 2015, 18:07:41
Oi...less of it Sir Tigger....happened in my day, and that was after WW2
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2015, 18:20:42
As I've said before, and got berated by the do-gooder brigade, I have issues with authorities banning certain non offensive practices in public places.

However, I do believe smoking whilst driving should be made an offensive. I find it odd I can get pulled for tucking into a warm pie, but not for swerving all over the road in an attempt to get 700C fag ash out of my gentlemens region.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2015, 18:21:31
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 18:23:05
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2015, 18:26:24
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 18:28:09
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall... ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Proper job!  :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2015, 18:28:15
Maccy D 89p handhelds make for easy eating, plus you can have 3 or 4 for price of a big mac. Obviously like all macdonalds, they taste a bit shite, but convenient if you can't stop, and want a chat with 'arry Law...
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 21 September 2015, 18:28:31
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2015, 18:29:29
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 21 September 2015, 18:31:06
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: BazaJT on 21 September 2015, 18:33:22
Must admit despite trying I still do smoke[filthy habit I know]always did when my kids were growing up as did their mother.Fortunately they're grown up now so very rarely if ever have kids in car now.Must say that all this anti-smoking stuff[plus other things]on grounds of human rights is all very well but that means doing away with my human rights to be able to smoke.I will however should the need arise comply with the law,as opposed to ignore it and risk getting caught.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 18:45:47
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D

http://www.philpspasties.co.uk/shop

Pasties by mail order! No that's a proper job!!  :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2015, 18:53:22
Oi...less of it Sir Tigger....happened in my day, and that was after WW2

Ah you're a young man compared to our Lord Opti Tony!  :y

Some say he's a time traveller who got lost in the mists of time and he is the love child of the Time Lord himself!!  8)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: flyer 0712 on 21 September 2015, 21:07:50
What is the use of that as a law....my ex wife smokes like a trooper and her 14 plate car smells..stinks...reeks of stale smoke....she picks up our grand child from school and does not smoke while he is in there with her...thats great...but for gods sake his lungs will get damaged with the stale smoke in the upholstery and in the air in the car....so whats the point of that law then. >:(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: minifreek on 21 September 2015, 21:34:36
Well this went slightly off topic methinks...


Anyhoo, I think the law has been brought in to protect youngsters from the passive smoking that can cause lung cancer... I have become anti smoking since stopping smoking, but Im also anti using your phone whilst driving too and the amount of times I see people driving whilst using their phones, I wish I was a copper as Id have 'em...

And can we have less bashing about us Radio Hams please :) 73's for now....
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: 78bex on 21 September 2015, 22:13:33
Daft laws bought in by pressure groups. So what happens when someone is driving with the hood or hardtop down  ::)  Too many laws turn innocents into criminals. (just found that quote on the net. yer I like that one)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2015, 21:55:16
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D

Anything has to be better than that 'Gristlers' shite. :(

Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 22 September 2015, 23:36:02
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D

Anything has to be better than that 'Gristlers' shite. :(

Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Broomies Mate on 23 September 2015, 01:38:19
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Jimbob on 23 September 2015, 08:02:32
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\

Love the taste of em, just a far too high a frequency of 'bouncy' bits of 'meat' :(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: EMD on 23 September 2015, 08:22:42
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\

Love the taste of em, just a far too high a frequency of 'bouncy' bits of 'meat' :(

 


Yes Gristlers meat is like chewing on a ball of rubber bands  :( Surprised they have not been reported for this ..
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 23 September 2015, 09:45:09
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\

I detest them,I think maybe you need to compare them to some of the proper Cornish Pasties :y
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Gaffers on 23 September 2015, 11:31:20
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D

http://www.philpspasties.co.uk/shop

Pasties by mail order! No that's a proper job!!  :y

nearly £14 for delivery? :o
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Nick W on 23 September 2015, 11:51:28

Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Are Dewdneys still in business? We'd always stop there and get fresh pasties for lunch when coming home from Plymouth. And hogs pudding for dinner when we got home.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: henryd on 23 September 2015, 11:53:48

Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Are Dewdneys still in business? We'd always stop there and get fresh pasties for lunch when coming home from Plymouth. And hogs pudding for dinner when we got home.

Yep    http://www.ivordewdney.co.uk/
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2015, 16:30:04
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\

Because they are full of gristle. ;)
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2015, 16:55:38
.....and donkey dong. :o :(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2015, 18:50:52
Non smoker, BTW. Had my one and only cigarette when I was about 5 or 6.  Might have had the odd pie however.  ::)  :y

 ;)
Actually, if I'm honest, I'm not a big pie man. Now a nice pasty...  ...esp a medium steak one from Philps in Cornwall...  ...but I do have to stop to eat, as I can get a bit messy ;D

Now you're talking,had one last weekend ;) :y :y
Right, henryd, its official, I bloody hate you ;D

I'm dribbling thinking about it

It was a large steak that I had,rather marvellous it was too ;) ;D ;D

Anything has to be better than that 'Gristlers' shite. :(

Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite
I think they are the best of the "available in all supermarkets" pasty.  Obviously, anyone who has had a Philps steak pasty will understand there is no comparison.

But as its a 570 mile round trip, or £15 delivery, there are times when a Ginsters is the best option :(
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Broomies Mate on 23 September 2015, 23:04:01
Do you mean Ginsters?,if so then yes they are shite

Nowt wrong with a Ginsters Cornish Pasty.  Made in Cornwall, with local produce!  :-\

Needs to be heated in the Oven, not a Microwave!!!!!  Pastry is good, veg is good.... nice bit of meat and nicely seasoned. 

Don't know why people slate Ginsters Pasty's so much????   :-\ :-\ :-\

I detest them,I think maybe you need to compare them to some of the proper Cornish Pasties :y

I spend a decent amount of time working in Cornwall.  I've had many, many Philps Pasties.... Of course they ARE better, but they cost 6/7 times the amount.  And, for the record, I actually prefer the Pastry on a Ginsters.

At the Launceston exit, there is a Butchers on Pennygillam Industrial Estate.  Philip Warren & Sons.  That's where to get a bloody good pasty.  Definitely give Philps a boot up the arse, and half the price too!

The A30 is a very long road, so by the time I get to the North Tawton exit (there is a services there) I'm hungry.  Not too many burger-vans on the A30, and apart from the new(ish) owners of 'The Owl' there isn't a lot to eat along the way.  I am always salivating by the time I get to Launceston..... Philip Warren gets my trade, even if I'm flaking out by the time I get there!  ;D
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 September 2015, 11:36:47
Ginsters/Gristlers....my view.

The pastry is acceptable but leaves a nasty greasy taste on the roof of my mouth.

The meat, if you can call it that, takes the form of 'slurry'

Gristle and 'connective tissue' form the main part of the pasty along with a few manky vegetables.

In summary. This product is of poor quality.

Good advertising helps shift plenty of this crap.


Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 September 2015, 11:40:14
Ginsters/Gristlers....my view.

The pastry is acceptable but leaves a nasty greasy taste on the roof of my mouth.

The meat, if you can call it that, takes the form of 'slurry'

Gristle and 'connective tissue' form the main part of the pasty along with a few manky vegetables.

In summary. This product is of poor quality.

Good advertising helps shift plenty of this crap.

Yep, with you, especially on that greasy roof of the mouth thing, revolting, but marginally better if you warm it up first.

Also almost designed to crumble all over you whilst eating. I would have to be seriously running out of options to eat one by choice.
Title: Re: 1st October new law....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 September 2015, 11:42:17
Ginsters/Gristlers....my view.

The pastry is acceptable but leaves a nasty greasy taste on the roof of my mouth.

The meat, if you can call it that, takes the form of 'slurry'

Gristle and 'connective tissue' form the main part of the pasty along with a few manky vegetables.

In summary. This product is of poor quality.

Good advertising helps shift plenty of this crap.

Yep, with you, especially on that greasy roof of the mouth thing, revolting, but marginally better if you warm it up first.

Also almost designed to crumble all over you whilst eating. I would have to be seriously running out of options to eat one by choice.

I don't buy a Gristlers  if sold as a BOGOF. :-\