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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: tunnie on 24 September 2015, 18:24:01
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Does this need to come out as well? Guide shows nice black space, not rusty one like here. Looks like it should come out? New bush has no chance of going in other wise :-\
https://www.dropbox.com/s/doy7ujan1x4t6v1/removed.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/doy7ujan1x4t6v1/removed.jpg?dl=0)
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If it does come out, should new bush be fitted into this? :-\
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Beat ten bells off shit out of it, so that it folds in on itself...
Remove the debris...
Insert new bush in the hole and put everything back together :y
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Cheers. :y :y :y :y
Due to failing light + little miss T needing help. I've stuck old one back in for now. Taking bike tomorrow, so will attack tomorrow after work.
What confused me is that's metal right? The replacement bush does not come with a replacement for that part? So that bit is just junk? Makes sense as new bush would not fit otherwise.
I also stuck it on a stand, so sub frame won't move. Easier than digging ramps out. But thinking tomorrow stick it on ramps and allow the arm to lower. ?
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Cheers. :y :y :y :y
Due to failing light + little miss T needing help. I've stuck old one back in for now. Taking bike tomorrow, so will attack tomorrow after work.
What confused me is that's metal right? The replacement bush does not come with a replacement for that part? So that bit is just junk? Makes sense as new bush would not fit otherwise.
I also stuck it on a stand, so sub frame won't move. Easier than digging ramps out. But thinking tomorrow stick it on ramps and allow the arm to lower. ?
Watched Gixer do a pair of these few months ago... Made it look so simple
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Was going fine, removed old bush ok, 4 bolts, sub frame on a stand.
I thought that bit was supposed to come out, but did not want to damage it just in case. So checked here. :)
I already felt some movement, so hopefully won't put up too much of a fight.
Still con-fuddled as to why that is bashed out, but no replacement, just larger bush?
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The central metal bush is bonded by rubber to the outer casing. This outer casing is a large metal collar, itself coated in rubber...
When they fail it is the bonding between the centre bush and the collar which goes first, this allows water to get at the collar, causing it to rust fast... (it's already a tight fit).
Easiest way to remove it is to literally beat one side right across the void with a cold chisel/club hammer combo. It will then simply pull/drop out... clear the remnants of the rubber casing out and you're good to go :y
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Cheers. That makes sense and why images from guide look different to what I saw. Also weight difference between old and new bush ;D
I could get screw driver in one of the slots, wiggle it (as per photo) and I could feel the case move. Bit more effort and it might come down?
Might pop to screw fix for a cold chisel. :)
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If it's a sturdy, scruffy oppsoff big screw driver, that will do... insert where you felt the movement and try to pop it out the other side of the car. Job jobbed :y
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The less violent way is to wedge something into the top of the void (I find an old rear brake pad is about the right size), then use a bearing puller as recommended in the guide. The old pad I there for the centre of the bush to pull on, and makes life easy. :D
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The less violent way is to wedge something into the top of the void (I find an old rear brake pad is about the right size), then use a bearing puller as recommended in the guide. The old pad I there for the centre of the bush to pull on, and makes life easy. :D
Only works if the centre of the bush hasn't already fallen out ::)
Violent method takes moments ;)
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The less violent way is to wedge something into the top of the void (I find an old rear brake pad is about the right size), then use a bearing puller as recommended in the guide. The old pad I there for the centre of the bush to pull on, and makes life easy. :D
Only works if the centre of the bush hasn't already fallen out ::)
Violent method takes moments ;)
Definitely works with a separated bush - did it on Sunday...
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Either way violence is preferred ;D
I'll pick up a cold chisle on way home, but I think I can get it out with some screwdrivers and a bit of brut force :)
Thing is, time will be against me when I get home tonight, may only get time to do one. Need car on Saturday.
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When I did mine, I used a three legged puller, and the 'hooked' end just fitted nicely in the three slots around the bush. I hammered them in to make sure they were tight and located properly before winding the threaded bar. This also started the bush moving a little. I wedged a block of wood between the body and subframe, with a shorter thick bolt in from the top of the mount for the end of the threaded bar to push against and a big flat washer against the top of the bolt and block of wood to spread the pressure, and then wound the bush out. I jacked the subframe up tight against the piece of wood with a jack to keep it solid. I found I didn't need to use brute force at all.
I refitted the new bush dry (important) in exactly the same position that the old one came out using the the lugs as a reference.
To refit the new one, I used a large piece of tubing and cut notches in it to sit snugly on the outer edge of the bush. I put the block of wood between the subframe and body, got the bush position 'square' to its hole, and using a trolley jack and the weight of the car against each other let the bush slowly work its own way into the subframe. I packed the saddle of the jack under the tubing to ensure it was at the correct position /angle before raising it to start the pressure to insert the bush. I checked it every few minutes, raising the jack slightly each time, just so that the car starts to lift slightly, but once it's on it's way, go and make a brew, and when you come back the bush should be fully in!
My main difficulty was getting the central bolt back in as the subframe moves a little without it presumably with the force of the rear spring, but apart from that not too bad a job!
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Easiest way to remove it is to literally beat one side right across the void with a cold chisel/club hammer combo.
I have an SDS drill with chisel attachment you can borrow if you are feeling adventurous ::) ;D
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;D
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Job jobbed. Well one side anyway :)
Old bush put up a fight, but screw driver in slots and wiggling it started to come out. Trying on various sides got it bit by bit, but then screw driver would have less angle/power as it came further out.
Brainwave.... I got the brake pad spreader and wedged that in. Expanded it out and that pushed the bush out nicely.
Old knackered bush...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh1eu0fg7s3vk9w/2015-09-25%2017.53.12.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh1eu0fg7s3vk9w/2015-09-25%2017.53.12.jpg?dl=0)
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Will also add that its resolved the knocking noise at the back now, annoyingly be another week before I can do the other side :(
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Just looked at the picture,you've had your moneys worth there :D :D :y
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Just looked at the picture,you've had your moneys worth there :D :D :y
He will refurb that ;D ;D ;D
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I'll pop it on eBay as "used" ::)
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When tackling bushes i have two methods.
Air chisel. burn it . air chisel.