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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2015, 11:33:34
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In future your six numbers will be taken from 59 balls instead of 49.
Do I have this correct?
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Yes.
Chance of winning the jackpot now 45,000,000 to 1.
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Yes.
Chance of winning the jackpot now 45,000,000 to 1.
You missed a few noughts off there :y
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http://news.sky.com/story/1503243/big-changes-shrink-chance-of-lottery-win
So less chance of winning a prize but 1 in 10 chance of a free go.
Which is how they can claim improved odds of winning.
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http://news.sky.com/story/1503243/big-changes-shrink-chance-of-lottery-win
So less chance of winning a prize but 1 in 10 chance of a free go.
Which is how they can claim improved odds of winning.
So this gives you another 45,000,000 to one chance of winning.
Are Camelot taking the piss?
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Its called Greed :y
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I'm glad they're changing it. I have been doing it since it's inception, first off two lines Wednesday and Saturday costing £4, then just two lines on Saturday when they doubled the price. My numbers are imprinted on my brain and the thought of stopping and my numbers finally coming up........well.
Now I know the chances of them coming up have increased from 1 in 14million to 1 in 45million, they can shove it. Circa £20 a month better off.
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They also increased the odds when the cost of a ticket went up to £2, as before that you would have had two chances of winning for your money.
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They also increased the odds when the cost of a ticket went up to £2, as before that you would have had two chances of winning for your money.
Very true, but that seems to have slipped people's minds :)
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I'm glad they're changing it. I have been doing it since it's inception, first off two lines Wednesday and Saturday costing £4, then just two lines on Saturday when they doubled the price. My numbers are imprinted on my brain and the thought of stopping and my numbers finally coming up........well.
Now I know the chances of them coming up have increased from 1 in 14million to 1 in 45million, they can shove it. Circa £20 a month better off.
Exactly. Camelot can go fook themselves.
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I think these new regulations will mean fewer people willing to pay and play each week.
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They also increased the odds when the cost of a ticket went up to £2, as before that you would have had two chances of winning for your money.
Very true, but that seems to have slipped people's minds :)
Exactly, when you take into account £2 thing the odds of winning anything are highly increased compared to when it was a £1. (Pound for Pound).
Odds of winning compared to the old £1 Stake.
£1(49). £2(49). £2(59)
Match 3. 1:60. 1:120. 1:200
Match 4. 1:1000. 1:2000. 1:4400
Match 5. 1:55,000. 1:110,000. 1:290,000
Match 5+1. 1:2,300,000. 1:4,600,000. 1:15,000,000
Match 6. 1:14,000,000. 1:28,000,000. 1:90,000,000
So, pound for pound stake money, under the new £2, 59 Ball system you've got less chance of hitting Match 5 plus Bonus Ball than you had of winning the Jackpot under the old £1, 49 Ball System.
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I am not sure what the prizes are as I do not do the lottery, but I remember one of the money wizards (like Martin Lewis) stating that the match 3 balls odds were 57-1.
As he said, if you put a pound on a horse in the Grand National, and it won at 57-1, would you be happy to walk into the bookies, and him hand you £10. I think not.
But the Lottery works on the 'if' syndrome.....common sense loses out to the 'if I win the lottery'. The thought of masses of money falling into people's hands, clouds their judgement :(
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They also increased the odds when the cost of a ticket went up to £2, as before that you would have had two chances of winning for your money.
Very true, but that seems to have slipped people's minds :)
Exactly, when you take into account £2 thing the odds of winning anything are highly increased compared to when it was a £1. (Pound for Pound).
Odds of winning compared to the old £1 Stake.
£1(49). £2(49). £2(59)
Match 3. 1:60. 1:120. 1:200
Match 4. 1:1000. 1:2000. 1:4400
Match 5. 1:55,000. 1:110,000. 1:290,000
Match 5+1. 1:2,300,000. 1:4,600,000. 1:15,000,000
Match 6. 1:14,000,000. 1:28,000,000. 1:90,000,000
So, pound for pound stake money, under the new £2, 59 Ball system you've got less chance of hitting Match 5 plus Bonus Ball than you had of winning the Jackpot under the old £1, 49 Ball System.
Excellent set of statistics, Mr Zirk. :y
It seems that Camelot are taking the piss. >:(
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Poverty tax. ;)
It's not unusual to go into a newsagent in a 'deprived/rough' area and see people buying 40 fags and £20 worth of lottery tickets/scratch cards. :-X ::)
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Poverty tax. ;)
It's not unusual to go into a newsagent in a 'deprived/rough' area and see people buying 40 fags and £20 worth of lottery tickets/scratch cards. :-X ::)
SWMBO has just started serving behind the counter that sells lottery tickets. Did you know there was a £10 sctrach card? ??? ???
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Good grief !!!!!!! :o
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I am not sure what the prizes are as I do not do the lottery, but I remember one of the money wizards (like Martin Lewis) stating that the match 3 balls odds were 57-1.
As he said, if you put a pound on a horse in the Grand National, and it won at 57-1, would you be happy to walk into the bookies, and him hand you £10. I think not.
But the Lottery works on the 'if' syndrome.....common sense loses out to the 'if I win the lottery'. The thought of masses of money falling into people's hands, clouds their judgement :(
Prize Funds -
£2(49). £2(59)
Match 2. n/a. Free Ticket. Fixed Prize
Match 3. £25. £25. Fixed Prize
Match 4. £100. £100. Estimated Funds
Match 5. £1000. £1000. Estimated Funds
Match 5+1. £50,000. £50,000. Estimated Funds
Match 6. Jackpot. Jackpot. Shared Funds
Increased Odds of winning but the same the same Prize Fund breakdown. With the exception of Match 2 which gets you a free ticket.
Odds of winning a Free Go is 1:10, which if you do the Mathis, means the Odds on winning another free ticket with that are 1:100 on your second go, and 1:1000 on your third and so on.
Odds on winning £25 with your free ticket, compared to the odds of winning a free ticket is 1:300.
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Ive done same 5 lines for 20 years, fiver a week no problem
Them came the wednesday, tenner a week, still no problem
then went up to £2 a go £20 a week, problem, but cant stop cos i know my numbers
now the new 59 numbers, less chance of winning, and i'm not changing my old numbers to add a 50 in, so camelot, F**K right off, you've lost my £80+ a month >:(
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Ive done same 5 lines for 20 years, fiver a week no problem
Them came the wednesday, tenner a week, still no problem
then went up to £2 a go £20 a week, problem, but cant stop cos i know my numbers
now the new 59 numbers, less chance of winning, and i'm not changing my old numbers to add a 50 in, so camelot, F**K right off, you've lost my £80+ a month >:(
Wow! That's a lot of dosh.
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Ive done same 5 lines for 20 years, fiver a week no problem
Them came the wednesday, tenner a week, still no problem
then went up to £2 a go £20 a week, problem, but cant stop cos i know my numbers
now the new 59 numbers, less chance of winning, and i'm not changing my old numbers to add a 50 in, so camelot, F**K right off, you've lost my £80+ a month >:(
Don't be pissed off about it ::) spend the extra cash taking the fairer half out for the evening once a month :y
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Ive done same 5 lines for 20 years, fiver a week no problem
Them came the wednesday, tenner a week, still no problem
then went up to £2 a go £20 a week, problem, but cant stop cos i know my numbers
now the new 59 numbers, less chance of winning, and i'm not changing my old numbers to add a 50 in, so camelot, F**K right off, you've lost my £80+ a month >:(
We too have used the same numbers since the start, however when the Wed draw appeared, we just play on the Sat still. But as you have done, now that the've added another 10 numbers, we're calling it a day too. Possibly get a lucky dip when there's a Euro roll over ;)
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How much have I made by never buying a ticket? ::)
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Some-one,,said the odds of winning by playing the same numbers are far higher than by having a licky dip... :y
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Some-one,,said the odds of winning by playing the same numbers are far higher than by having a licky dip... :y
Someone is a bit silly! ;D
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Keeping to 49 numbers Camelot could to a certain extent retain it's customers.
Raising the number of balls to 59 is a big mistake.
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RE: The people who have had the same numbers for a while.... the addition of extra numbers doesn't reduce your chance of winning (beyond that of anyone who picks at random, lucky-dip or otherwise).
The odd's of the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6 coming out of the machine are identical to any other random 6 numbers.
A lot of people pick numbers on the basis of their family's birthdays..... logically, the highest number will be 31. Doesn't matter if there were 99 numbers to choose from, the odds remain the same*.
*same as anyone else playing who may choose from the entire spectrum of numbers (see the 1,2,3,4,5,6 fact).
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Id chuck the money your not spending in the premium bonds (£100 at a time)
Similarly crap odds of winning, but at least you can have your stake back at any point :y
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The odd's of the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6 coming out of the machine are identical to any other random 6 numbers. ....
It has to be less as there are now more numbers to choose from. If there were only 20 numbers, there'd be a greater chance of 1 2 3 4 5 6 coming out than if there were 100 numbers
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It was very convenient how they waited a few years before they started the lucky dips, by that time so many people had their own numbers memorised
I think it all started going down hill with all the bloody hot picks and thunder ball gash
One big Saturday draw is a far better idea.
I remember single jackpots at £20 Million.
Now you can have a double roll over at less than £10 Million
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask :)
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How much have I made by never buying a ticket? ::)
Me too :y
I don't/have never placed a bet in my life. I even deplore the fact that it's OK for the older generation to play Bingo.... another form of gambling/betting....
Only ever 1 winner in these things....
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Ive done same 5 lines for 20 years, fiver a week no problem
Them came the wednesday, tenner a week, still no problem
then went up to £2 a go £20 a week, problem, but cant stop cos i know my numbers
now the new 59 numbers, less chance of winning, and i'm not changing my old numbers to add a 50 in, so camelot, F**K right off, you've lost my £80+ a month >:(
And if you had put that £40 and then £80 a month into a highish risk emerging markets investment fund, the chances are your £12,000 spend would now be a good tidy investment.
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Won the euro millions last night :) Im £8 better off . An investment would be
to sling it on Liverpool to lose the next match ;D
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Won the euro millions last night :) Im £8 better off . An investment would be
to sling it on Liverpool to lose the next match ;D
Or Chelsea :)
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They also increased the odds when the cost of a ticket went up to £2, as before that you would have had two chances of winning for your money.
That also took into account the new raffle that guaranteed a 20 £20,000 prizes every week ;)
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Since they put another ten balls in the mix, Nobodys won the jackpot in those two draws, So its 12 Million for this sat
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Since they put another ten balls in the mix, Nobodys won the jackpot in those two draws, So its 12 Million for this sat
That's probably the way it will work. Wait for four or five rollovers then buy a lucky dip.
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With the way the odds have gone up it`ll roll over into the next century ;D
Think I might be trying the thunderball from now on ::)
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What about the 'Health Lottery'? :-\ Anyone do it/won anything? ???
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No idea about that, I don`t know anyone or have heard of anyone winning on that.
I`ve known and heard of people winning on the lottery and I know that my local Post Office has had five raffle winners since it has been going, the raffle that is not the post office ;D
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I've dropped Camelot like a hot potato now that they've added an extra ten balls. It's easy to forget that 2 weekly plays adds up to £200 a year.
I'm now playing the health lottery at £1 a week (£50 a year).........and picked 3 balls at my first attempt. £20. :y :y
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Didn't buy any lottery tickets this weekend, will do euro when it's a biggee, Anybody thought about that postcode lottery, getting lots of tv advertising at moments.?
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I've dropped Camelot like a hot potato now that they've added an extra ten balls. It's easy to forget that 2 weekly plays adds up to £200 a year.
I'm now playing the health lottery at £1 a week (£50 a year).........and picked 3 balls at my first attempt. £20. :y :y
They say money always goes to money Doc. :y
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The Health Lottery has 50 balls as well though so I assume the odds are the same as Lotto? :-\
Half the price though! :y
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I try and have a go on El Gordo The Christmas lottery here in Spain. I think it is the biggest in the world.Tickets are 20 euros plus three euros going to good causes. As well as having low value winners the first part of the number ensures localities become rich. e.g. everyone who bought a ticket starting with say 4842. So you get whole villages or most people in a town becoming rich overnight.
Had three goes and won 40 euros for an outlay of 69.
Send me 20 euros and I will have a go for you this year! ;D
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SWMBO now serves on the lottery and ciggy counter at a local ASDA. She served an old dear with 40 cigs who commented that she didn't know how people found the money to buy scratch cards. ::)
I think the irony was lost on her. ;D ;D
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SWMBO now serves on the lottery and ciggy counter at a local ASDA. She served an old dear with 40 cigs who commented that she didn't know how people found the money to buy scratch cards. ::)
I think the irony was lost on her. ;D ;D
About £15 quid there
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SWMBO now serves on the lottery and ciggy counter at a local ASDA. She served an old dear with 40 cigs who commented that she didn't know how people found the money to buy scratch cards. ::)
I think the irony was lost on her. ;D ;D
About £15 quid there
At least.
I promised myself I'd give in when they got to £1 a pack (20) ........ about 20 yrs later I managed it